Where is MAURA MURRAY

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whiston Wallingford, CT	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2299 Jul 9, 2008 hi all .so i will state the obvious .the Murray family does know where Maura worked.as far as i know Maura was a full time student and could be claimed as a dependant etc.. on mr Murrays tax return.i was told many times on the old forum that the family did not know where Maura worked.also of huge importance is WHY it cannot be said where Maura worked.Did someone connected to a gallery harm her or help her out of her overwhelming situation in amherst or prior life at west point .take care philip
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2300 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 2 2 Take, for example, the UMass artist, Richard Yarde. His "Savoy Ballroom" is carried by a Northampton gallery that formerly had a "branch" gallery in Amherst. Is this the gallery Maura worked at? Or was it the Hampden gallery in SW? Or another on campus? Or the gallery at the Lay Academy for Oecumenical Studies in the Carriage Shops in Amherst? Hard to say. But, alternatively, there is still the Vasi hit-and-run possibility. Especially when you consider those nasty speed bumps right in front of the main entrance to Amherst Regional High School, just before turning onto Mattoon Street where Vasi was hit. If, for example, you were coming down from Chestnut Street. If you hit those speed bumps going at a good clip in a Saturn, I would not be a bit surprised to see them pop. But there's no reason to disregard the stolen merchandise angle, either, is there? Not that Maura herself would have been involved in anything illegal, but maybe she noticed something wrong done by someone she worked with, who was less than honest, and who got a little nervous and said, "Come on over to my place for drinks Monday after class." Then maybe, just for example, they took a short winter stroll on a deserted and isolated nearby bike path over the Connecticut River. No less worthy than some of the other carousel theories.
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2301 Jul 9, 2008 whiston wrote: hi all .so i will state the obvious .the Murray family does know where Maura worked.as far as i know Maura was a full time student and could be claimed as a dependant etc.. on mr Murrays tax return.i was told many times on the old forum that the family did not know where Maura worked.also of huge importance is WHY it cannot be said where Maura worked.Did someone connected to a gallery harm her or help her out of her overwhelming situation in amherst or prior life at west point .take care philip The gallery is definitely known by someone who keeps it a secret because her paycheck must have come from there. Her bank statement would have reflected this, assuming her pay was directly deposited. Otherwise, her check would have been mailed to a family member. Unless police got to the gallery first. That gallery really is quite a mystery, the more so because its identity is unknown.
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2302 Jul 9, 2008 Whiston, Do you think the Saturn could have been towed from Putney, VT to Haverhill, NH? Perhaps covered by AAA?
Eurobserver Joined: Jun 16, 2008 Comments: 472 Tumba, Sweden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2303 Jul 9, 2008 Whiston, BeagleBart & all, Some highly interesting points and theories there and all eminently plausible in my mind. The trouble - as I see it - is that we seem to have a fair number of perfectly feasible ideas and theories going round, but more or less no hard facts to speak of. The "carousel" again... On this theme: Sorry to be such a "parrot" and bore, but it seems to me at least that checking out the visitors book in that Barton, VT, church might be one way to hopefully achieve something concrete here, however small a step it may be. I´m not saying that the discussion of our various ideas and theories are pointless. In fact, I believe they are highly important in many different ways. However, it would feel rather good to be able to find out more about whether there actually exists a signature by the enigmatic "Rachel" (Maura?) in that Barton,VT, church. Don´t you think? Comments, please! Thanks!
whiston Wallingford, CT	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2304 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 1 1 1 hi beagle and all it is 88 miles from Putney V.T.to Haverhill N.H.Maura had 100 miles of free towing included with her AAA.I still cannot believe that nobody called AAA in the whole of grafton county nh on a cold february night.to me that is very odd.take care philip
FireCat United States	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2305 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 1 1 1 whiston wrote: hi all .so i will state the obvious .the Murray family does know where Maura worked.as far as i know Maura was a full time student and could be claimed as a dependant etc.. on mr Murrays tax return.i was told many times on the old forum that the family did not know where Maura worked.also of huge importance is WHY it cannot be said where Maura worked.Did someone connected to a gallery harm her or help her out of her overwhelming situation in amherst or prior life at west point .take care philip Philip, you were NOT told repeatedly by the family that they did not know where she worked. I was on that forum every day, and that NEVER got said. Certain members of her extended family who posted on the old forum may not have known, or may have chosen to keep silent for their own reasons (whether or not we fathom or agree with those reasons) but what you've said is COMPLETELY FALSE. I personally remember telling you that I would answer those questions if I knew, but I didn't. I'm not a family member. I can understand your frustration at being ignored, purposely or otherwise, but can you lay off it just a little bit please? There is a HUGE difference between saying, as an individual (family member or not) "I do not know where she worked" and saying "her family does not know where she worked." Also, for what it's worth, I doubt my parents could have told you the name of the place I worked in college, and I'm as close to my dad as Maura is to hers. He might have been able to narrow it down about as much as it is in this case, ie, "some gallery on campus" but that's about it. So maybe they DON'T know. But saying that the family told you that they don't know where she worked is just flat out either wrong or a misunderstanding.
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2306 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 2 1 1 Last night I showed a picture of the Saturn's dented hood to yet another tow truck driver who is also a trailer truck driver. In very neutral terms, I asked him what he thought might have happened. Just like all the other people in the auto body and tow truck guys I've talked to, he said, with no hesitation whatsoever, that it looked like the car had gone under the back of a truck. I believe that's now the instant opinion of six out of six people who all have experience in a very relevant line of work.

FireCat United States	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2307 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 1 1 1 whiston wrote: hi beagle and all it is 88 miles from Putney V.T.to Haverhill N.H.Maura had 100 miles of free towing included with her AAA.I still cannot believe that nobody called AAA in the whole of grafton county nh on a cold february night.to me that is very odd.take care philip Or possibly not so odd, when you consider the number of people who have their own trucks, winches, and tow hitches up there, or have friends and neighbours who do, or keep chains in the back of their cars for such purposes. Not to mention that snow squalls in February are not unusual in NH, and residents are undoubtedly used to driving in them--more so, certainly, than a mid-atlantic snow where people freak out at the first white flake and slide into ditches and panic because they don't know how to drive in the stuff. Also, as it's not a hugely populated area, maybe it's not so weird. It may have been "just another night" to those going about their business until Maura disappeared.
FireCat United States	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2308 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 2 Beagle, that's very interesting.....and, at this point, not really surprising. And I ain't never heard of no tow-hitch tree.......
FireCat United States	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2309 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 1 1 1 Excerpted from the Union Leader article last summer, Part I of that series: Mrs. Rausch responded to an e-mail request to interview her son saying: "Billy is out of town on a job interview. However, even upon his return, he has decided that he does not want to comment. I agree with Fred (Murray) about Billy getting on with his life.' I know that each time (Billy) becomes actively involved with the media that it truly re-opens his intense heartache from Maura's missing. "If Fred ever wants/needs Billy's input, he will be glad to participate, but until then, he wants to remain out of the picture." Link to full article here: http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx... I also remember Sharon posting on the MMM forum once when there was a question about Maura's eye colour, that there was essentially no way in hell she was going to contact her son in Iraq and put him through the emotional upheaval of asking him what colour Maura's eyes were, when he was in the middle of a war in the middle of a desert. And I didn't blame her one bit. Dredging that up while someone's in combat could have ended up costing him his life, of the lives of his fellow soldiers. Yes, they have daily access to the internet, and they write, call, or email home whenever they can, but this is someone in an extraordinary situation with an extraordinary set of particular stresses that most people don't have to deal with (a missing loved one). You do NOT want to go adding the two together.
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2310 Jul 9, 2008 whiston wrote: hi beagle and all it is 88 miles from Putney V.T.to Haverhill N.H.Maura had 100 miles of free towing included with her AAA.I still cannot believe that nobody called AAA in the whole of grafton county nh on a cold february night.to me that is very odd.take care philip Thanks Whiston. I get a different mileage reading. According to Google Maps, from Putney to Swiftwater, it's 99.4 miles.
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2311 Jul 9, 2008 FireCat wrote: Beagle, that's very interesting.....and, at this point, not really surprising. And I ain't never heard of no tow-hitch tree....... Sheltered life, then, pal. Base of tree hovers about 2 feet above the ground. Only been seen on Rt. 112 in Haverhill, NH. Hitch is welded to underside of tree trunk. True, you might have to drink the worm to see it, but it's there, I promise.
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2312 Jul 9, 2008 FireCat wrote: Excerpted from the Union Leader article last summer, Part I of that series: Mrs. Rausch responded to an e-mail request to interview her son saying: "Billy is out of town on a job interview. However, even upon his return, he has decided that he does not want to comment. I agree with Fred (Murray) about Billy getting on with his life.' I know that each time (Billy) becomes actively involved with the media that it truly re-opens his intense heartache from Maura's missing. "If Fred ever wants/needs Billy's input, he will be glad to participate, but until then, he wants to remain out of the picture." Link to full article here: http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx... I also remember Sharon posting on the MMM forum once when there was a question about Maura's eye colour, that there was essentially no way in hell she was going to contact her son in Iraq and put him through the emotional upheaval of asking him what colour Maura's eyes were, when he was in the middle of a war in the middle of a desert. And I didn't blame her one bit. Dredging that up while someone's in combat could have ended up costing him his life, of the lives of his fellow soldiers. Yes, they have daily access to the internet, and they write, call, or email home whenever they can, but this is someone in an extraordinary situation with an extraordinary set of particular stresses that most people don't have to deal with (a missing loved one). You do NOT want to go adding the two together. Didn't he also lose his sister a year or two ago? Man, what a world of pain.
quija Medway, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2314 Jul 9, 2008 Judged: 1 Sorry --- this is a sad start, but these are the only UMass galleries (listed TODAY) open on sundays. I'll try to back-track to the place i zeroed in on a few years ago.... Hampden Gallery Hampden Dining Halls, South West Residential Area, 413-five-four-five-0680 Mon-Fri 3-7pm; Sun 2-5pm Central Gallery Wheeler House (Central Area), 413-five-four-five-0680 Mon-Thurs. 4-8pm; Sun 2-5pm University Gallery Fine Arts Center, 413-five-four-five-3670 Tuesday to Friday 11-4:30pm, Saturday & Sunday 2-5pm Student Union Visual and Performing Arts Space Student Union Building, 413-five-four-five-0792 Mon-Thurs 10-5pm; Fri 10-3pm; Sat & Sun. 1pm to 4pm
quija Medway, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2315 Jul 9, 2008 sorry, starting from scratch --- don't have a clue if this was an artist who had work exhibited at a UMAss gallery in feb 2004. Just found a note is all... http://www.airgallery.org/index.cfm...
BeagleBart Greenfield, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2316 Jul 9, 2008 quija wrote: Sorry --- this is a sad start, but these are the only UMass galleries (listed TODAY) open on sundays. I'll try to back-track to the place i zeroed in on a few years ago.... Hampden Gallery Hampden Dining Halls, South West Residential Area, 413-five-four-five-0680 Mon-Fri 3-7pm; Sun 2-5pm Central Gallery Wheeler House (Central Area), 413-five-four-five-0680 Mon-Thurs. 4-8pm; Sun 2-5pm University Gallery Fine Arts Center, 413-five-four-five-3670 Tuesday to Friday 11-4:30pm, Saturday & Sunday 2-5pm Student Union Visual and Performing Arts Space Student Union Building, 413-five-four-five-0792 Mon-Thurs 10-5pm; Fri 10-3pm; Sat & Sun. 1pm to 4pm That's an EXCELLENT start.
WeWii “Because I can..” Joined: May 13, 2008 Comments: 211 Kansas City, MO	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2317 Jul 9, 2008 quija wrote: <quoted text> Yes, Euro, for years it was said to be a fact that the windshield broke from the INSIDE! I don't get it. We really need to think where our information, our facts are and have come from. Killed by a Serial Killer (posted above)? I vaguely remember one statement regarding Maura being killed by a murderer who had killed before came from a profiler, not local, state or fed law. This is gonna sound like a tirade, but it isn't. We have few facts, and many of those aren't backed up anywhere --- thus, they aren't really facts... Maura's boyfriend's mom, Sharon, said shortly before the MMM forum closed that Maura was finishing up a group-effort paper on Monday and that's why she didn't leave until late in the day, near dusk. We should've checked that out, although maybe it was obvious by seeing her computer. I think leaving at dusk in an unreliable car without telling anyone where she was going is enough to warrant checking Amherst out more carefully. If there is no gag order, why haven't Maura's friends posted more about her activities? She appeared to be an extremely private person, keeping things to herself. Even not telling her good friend at the gallery about the previous night's crash in her dad's car. An early article which I can't find indicated some of her old friends from high school were hurt that she hadn't let them know she was transferring to UMass until she was there. Still wonder about the confusion of police saying that Maura left a note to Billy on top of her packed boxes in the dorm, while the family said it was notes FROM Billy to her, and, sadly, not long after Billy arrived in NH for the search he stated he felt "Maura was no longer with us." The only information we have, since LE has only spoken in press releases which were totally dismissed on the MMM forum, is what we were told over and over by that forum. I wish Billy had posted. I still wish her friends would. Many were concerned about her emotional state in the days before she left. This isn't science fiction, but besides the stresses of school, Maura could've been rethinking her career goals, her relationship with Billy she could've been in some kind of trouble she might have been being stalked (eye-catching girl for sure) she might've been threatened by someone who was going to "tell on her" about something she did (and we ALL have those things we'd be embarassed about --- even decades later, for ex., photos taken at a party where inhibitions are lowered by alcohol --- could explain the mysterious call from ON-CAMPUS) she might've told someone at work Thursday night that she had cramps and was going to the ladies room only to make a coffee run and have an accident en route... etc. Mentioning "cramps" just now, of course, made me think of blood in the A-frame house... So I don't have any agenda except to try to figure out her motivation besides "getting away for a few days to think things over". It did seem like she burned her bridges behind her(someone posted this idea a long time ago) in terms of returning to UMass because of her stories. Just catching up here. But exactly who did this profiler work for? Not local, state, or fed(i.e. meaning was this the fortune teller or dreamer or whatever)? Not being cute there, just askin. I may be getting the cart ahead of the horse a bit here. But, if there are so few facts. Then how did this profiler come to this conclusion? As far as the crack. Could it came from something thrown, like a beer bottle(hate to say this but, from like a pedestrian walking home from a bar). Just asking not making any assumptions.
quija Medway, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2318 Jul 9, 2008 I'm just (years after i first did this) looking at exhibitors that might've been at UMass Amherst in feb 2004. This one is probably irrelevant, but you can search too: i.e.: UMass Amherst gallery exhibitor artist 2004, etc. etc. Faculty Art Show— Student Union Gallery, University of Massachusetts at Amherst; Amherst, Massachusetts [Fall 2004] http://www.broussardfinishes.com/jeremy/resum... Jeremy R. Broussard I just stuck this one in because i think he went to school there too and was there ?????? at the time. JUST AN EXAMPLE of a finite number of artists exhibiting in umass amherst galleries in 2003-2004....
quija Medway, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2319 Jul 9, 2008 more random 2004 umass gallery info: http://www.umass.edu/fac/calendar/universityg...

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