Where is MAURA MURRAY

Quija wrote:

Questions for Advocator:
-- Peabody, hydemi, and docwho3 all said (a long time ago on websleuths, etc.) that the upsetting call on 2/5-2/6 was at 1AM. I don't know if was was 1AM or 1:30AM as you stated?

Okay, well, then I'm not sure either. I had 1:30AM in my notes, which would have come from a post on the MMM forum. I've gone to the Chart and revised to list both times with a note that the time needs to be verified. If anyone has notes or information with the time from a solid source, please post that.

Quija wrote:

-- When I checked earlier I saw it was 3 days post-full moon on 2/9/04. Full moon was 2/6/04. Please correct me if wrong.

I don't have anything on the Chart about the weather that night but it would probably be helpful to add it -- need a good source ... probably we shouldn't go by anyone's memory although I know there are several here who live in the area and may recall what it was that night simply because they've been very focused on Maura's situation.

Quija wrote:

-- I saw nowhere (as you said) in ANY PART of the Grafton Police Log for 2/9 and 2/10 that Fred described Maura as "suicidal".

My notes indicated that this was something that Scarinza told the media.

Anybody else read http://www.vnews.com/08172008/4998325.htm
in the Valley News?

This is definitely news to me!

I find this quote especially stunning:
Cormier, commander of the Central New Hampshire unit and chairman of the New Hampshire Tactical Officers Association, a group of command officers from the state's tactical teams.“We think of terrorists and we typically think of somebody coming over here from the Middle East. But the majority of our dealings with terrorism is American-born terrorism, like Columbine and that sort of thing. They are classified as American terrorists.” Cormier added,“Anyone can become a terrorist at a moment's notice.”

NH? "Live free or die"???
I don't know whether I am more disgusted or horrified by Cormier's assessment of decent, law-abiding American citizens.

looking4amoose wrote:

Advocater-----Just a note on the chart/document on google---Maura was in her second semester of nursing school, not second year.

Thanks -- fixed it!

But that brings to mind a question. There have been posts saying that Maura had a job lined up for the summer with a hospital out in Oklahoma near where Billy was stationed. I think some of the posts said or intimated that she would be done at UMass by that time. But that wouldn't mean she had finished her schooling. Would it then be possible, normal, for her to be able to get a summer job at a hospital at such a distance from her school like that?

Advocator wrote:

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Thanks -- fixed it!
But that brings to mind a question. There have been posts saying that Maura had a job lined up for the summer with a hospital out in Oklahoma near where Billy was stationed. I think some of the posts said or intimated that she would be done at UMass by that time. But that wouldn't mean she had finished her schooling. Would it then be possible, normal, for her to be able to get a summer job at a hospital at such a distance from her school like that?

It's pretty common for nursing students to get jobs as "Student Nurse Interns" or Ceritified Nursing Assistants. In many states, you automatically qualify for each of these positions having completed a minimum of the first clinical semester. I believe that Maura's family reported that she was in her first semester clinical, but when I called Umass Amherst, they stated that she wouldn't have been travelling the distances the distances she travelled for clinicals if she were a first semester nursing student.

Advocator wrote:

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I don't have anything on the Chart about the weather that night but it would probably be helpful to add it -- need a good source ... probably we shouldn't go by anyone's memory although I know there are several here who live in the area and may recall what it was that night simply because they've been very focused on Maura's situation.

Hello Advocator,

Regarding the weather on Monday 9th February 2004 I just contributed that information in my recent post earlier today.
I found the weather statistics for Benton, NH, on the web site for "Google Answers" and the orginal source is apparently the US Weather Service.
No weather information for Haverhill, NH, seems to be available, but as Benton is rather closer to the Weathered Barn than Haverhill, that shouldn´t make much of a difference.

looking4amoose wrote:

<quoted text> It's pretty common for nursing students to get jobs as "Student Nurse Interns" or Ceritified Nursing Assistants. In many states, you automatically qualify for each of these positions having completed a minimum of the first clinical semester. I believe that Maura's family reported that she was in her first semester clinical, but when I called Umass Amherst, they stated that she wouldn't have been travelling the distances the distances she travelled for clinicals if she were a first semester nursing student.

Ummm, what are you saying?

Hello again,

Forgot to add the number of my weather related post which is 4366.

Hi all,

Just found an interesting board forum on http://allnurses.com with a recent discussion on the UMass Amherst Nursing Program.
It seems that it´s exceptionally difficult to get accepted as a student there and also very hard work to stay on once accepted.

Below are a few excerpts from this site which highlight this:

Excerpt from:
http://allnurses.com , UMass Amherst Nursing Program:

#2 Jul 27, 2008, 11:27 PM
Alexk49
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Join Date: Oct 2005

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UMass Amherst, is very competitive to get in, my daughters room mate was dean's list and not accepted, she graduated with another degree and then went to community college.

You will have to do 2 years of prequites, you can see than by going to their web page. Get good grades and do well on your SATs and you will stand a chance of getting in.

There are also programs in UMass/Darmouth and UMass/Boston you may want to consider.





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#4 Jul 29, 2008, 03:27 PM
kat von b (Female)
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I was told from a recent grad that they are only accepting nursing students as freshman, no transfers.

#5 Jul 29, 2008, 07:54 PM
HieuNgu1155 (Male)
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#7 Jul 31, 2008, 04:33 PM
queenbo
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I am a Umas amherst Grad class of 03 and It is one of the toughest nursing programs to get into...then if u're lucky enough to get in ...u have to work very hard to stay in ...I dropped out and changed my major, but now i'm back in school after marrige and a baby tring to do nursing at a comm college. just do the best u can and good luck, my sister will be there in the fall as a freshman, I was also a part of Student Gov Association so feel free to ask me anything about the school....over all I LOVED UMAAS/AMHERST ...BEST TIME OF MY LIFE..! BESIDES MY BABY...LOL

Lady Gray wrote:

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Ummm, what are you saying?

I corrected Advocators post about her being a Sr. level Nursing Student. Her classmates graduated in May '05 so they all would've been second clinical students at the time of her disappearance.

The first semster/second semester clinicals confusion might be because Maura disappeared at the very beginning of the spring semester. Perhaps she'd just finished her first semester of clinicals and was beginning her second?

Euro,

This may have been mentioned before but the other interesting thing is that the construction worker did not initially contact LE with his sighting of the person running in a hoodie.

I believe he made mention of it in conversation to someone in passing at a store, I think.

LE was quoted as saying that the construction worker was a reliable witness.

The initial statements he made when questioned within 10 days of Maura's disappearance conflicted with his person running in a hoodie sighting but he was deemed a reliable source of information anyway.

Well, on a positive note. It prompted an actual physical search.

It was also stated in the papers that the bus driver was a good friend of Cecil Smith's.

Isn't that a conflict of interest in any investigation?

Advocator, No relative of mine lived in Chalet/A frame. A relative of mine, in R,E.
was the rental agent for the Chalet/A frame.

RE: Full Moon ..Woodsville, alt.600, Swiftwater, alt. 840, Benton, alt.1200, Mt.Mooseilaukee, alt.3000 (with Glencliff, part of Warren) Moon would not been seen or illuminating that early in the evening even if there were clear.skies.
There is "Glencliff Home for the Elderly" (for the past 35 years)...
...prior, it was Glencliff Sanitorium (for TB)

Sophie, that was quite an interesting article...have to re-read and absorb.
Elsewhere, re: CW,I believe he was the only one who wouldn't allow a search on his property.

I meant moon or moonlight wouldn't be visable
at Swiftwater area..West of Moosilaukee...
at that early time of night....
Moon had not risen high enough...

elsewherebriefly wrote:

It was also stated in the papers that the bus driver was a good friend of Cecil Smith's.
Isn't that a conflict of interest in any investigation?

Not necessarily....and also probably unavoidable in a small town.

Shack,

Reliable witness?!

I noticed Glencliff mentioned quite a bit while going through the Governor's & Executive Meeting Minutes. Assume it is a state owned facility.

My grandmother's twin sister died of TB at the age of 18, very sad.

Sophie,

I read the link as well. Very intesting indeed.

oops,

very interesting indeed.

Maybe the Pointy Boot Brigade can fall under non-profit as well.

Thanks Firecat & Fellow Brigadeer,

You are right.

Elsewhere...re witness?...you don't want to hear
what I think..

FireCat wrote:

The first semster/second semester clinicals confusion might be because Maura disappeared at the very beginning of the spring semester. Perhaps she'd just finished her first semester of clinicals and was beginning her second?

Correct--she would've finished her first clinical in December--but that also lends itself to the confusion of her taking a week away from clinicals. A week long leave is not well accepted by nursing schools--it leaves you too far behind--clinical work is heavily concentrated in patient care, not so much the book.