Where is MAURA MURRAY

I ran accross another possibility - that occured to me after watching a TV show last night called "Why I ran" its a show in which folks that were running from the police in a car chase are interviewed a few years later about it.

I have a dliemma about bringing it up - and I only bring it up because its possible.

The woman that was on last night explaining the situation had all charges droppoed against her. She is a good, normal mother, well supported by her family.

Its out of the realm of reason to make any kind of negative judgement about this woman.

What happened was that the woman that was interviewed said that she was going through some stressful times and went to see a doctor who gave her some medicine to help deal with the stress. She felt that it was too strong for her and abruptly stopped taking the medicine.

A few days later she suddenly started to feel that something was wrong in general. She started to head over to her Mom's house but then - for reasons unexplained - she saw a man with a gun (who was not there) tell her to steal a car. She believed she was being told that if she didn't steal the car - she would be killed.

She started banging on a random home's windows - went into the house, took the car keys hanging on the wall - and stole the car.

The folks in the house called the police and they found her and chased her. During the whole chase - she felt that if she stopped the car - a bomb would go off and a lot of people would die.

The police finally stopped her - she recovered - the charges were dropped and she now leads a normal productive life.

The episode is "Betty and Josh" and is viewable here: http://www.biography.com/video.do...

Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text>Great point! Was it ever discovered what company did the towing? What kind of conversations Maura had with the tow truck driver?

Was the car actually towed TO the motel? I know Maura got a ride to the motel from the tow truck driver. But where was the CAR dropped off? If the car had already been towed someplace else for repair, there would be no reason to have the flashing lights on.

I saw a surprising thing a few days ago. I saw a car that had been loaded onto a flat bed (tow) truck. Truck driver and passenger were in the truck cab. But another person was literally slumped behind the wheel of the car. Way up in the air. They left the lot and drove on down the road with someone behind the wheel of the car, which was chained to the bed of the truck. I was truly amazed. Maybe they weren't going too far, but it was very surprising to see this.

Lady Gray wrote:

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Hey……Doppelganger a/k/a Storagehead a/k/a Woodsville Worrier a/k/a Eagleart a/k/a Claysoup a/k/a

A ____ n

(won’t give hints as to last name). Would you like me to go further?

I’ll tell you, I am really tired of you slamming MMM.

Doppelganger a/k/a Storagehead a/k/a Woodsville Worrier a/k/a Eagleart a/k/a Claysoup a/k/a

A ____

(won’t give any hints to last name), So, I held off on posting this, but ya know what, Doppelganger a/k/a Storagehead a/k/a Woodsville Worrier a/k/a Eagleart a/k/a Claysoup a/k/a

A ____ n,

I have given you many chances but after reading your repeated bashings of MMM on this site, how does it feel to you now to have YOUR names posted?

"Would you like me to go further?" LG asks.

"...how does it feel to you now to have YOUR names posted?" LG asks.

I need to make a correction - the ladies name is Chtisty Coats - the "why I ran" episode. She says it was completely unlike herself.

In this episode of "Why I ran" Christy does things that are not usual for her.

That episode of the show is proof to me that a very normal person can undergo a dramatic psychological change in certain medical circumstancs.

Except what ultimately happened to Maura - this is a better explanation *not hocus pocus flashing red lights* as to some kind of altered mental state.

If Maura were victimized similarly to what Christy had experienced - who knows - after the accident - she may have run off into the woods thinking her life was in danger and got lost miles up.

Its not really suicide.

Just one idea.

FireCat wrote:

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Was the car actually towed TO the motel? I know Maura got a ride to the motel from the tow truck driver. But where was the CAR dropped off? If the car had already been towed someplace else for repair, there would be no reason to have the flashing lights on.

Even if the lights were flashing - I know I would be understanding about it as most people would.

whiston wrote:

hi all.Can anyone suggest here why Mauras family refuses to speak about her prior life. i ask you to please look at any other missing persons case and the pleas from there families.They always always give information about where there loved one was last seen was working etc.please dont' give me the usual we dont' knows or this is an ongoing investigation these responses are either weak or worse.where is Mauras' family and friends with some answers about her prior life.or are they just waiting for these people that care to go away .speaking for myself this woll not happen.i was banished from the former MMM site for asking about Mauras prior life... take care philip

Whiston/philip ~
Could the lack of response or level of response you expect from Maura's family be an indicator that they are unwilling/unable to provide the information you are seeking?

Perhaps the "help" being offered here is intrusive to them.

I don't have the emotional involvement and history that you share with others here...and can understand the resistance on the part of the family to maintain privacy and/or to safeguard information that might eventually help them find Maura.

Interesting!

JMO wrote:

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Whiston/philip ~
Could the lack of response or level of response you expect from Maura's family be an indicator that they are unwilling/unable to provide the information you are seeking?
Perhaps the "help" being offered here is intrusive to them.
I don't have the emotional involvement and history that you share with others here...and can understand the resistance on the part of the family to maintain privacy and/or to safeguard information that might eventually help them find Maura.

The majority of us with "emotional involvement and history" have always been respectful of Maura's family, have not prodded for information, and have appreciated what they've shared with us.

With all due respect to Whiston, he is not representative of the majority.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

The majority of us with "emotional involvement and history" have always been respectful of Maura's family, have not prodded for information, and have appreciated what they've shared with us.
With all due respect to Whiston, he is not representative of the majority.

Thank you.

JMO wrote:

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Whiston/philip ~
Could the lack of response or level of response you expect from Maura's family be an indicator that they are unwilling/unable to provide the information you are seeking?
Perhaps the "help" being offered here is intrusive to them.
I don't have the emotional involvement and history that you share with others here...and can understand the resistance on the part of the family to maintain privacy and/or to safeguard information that might eventually help them find Maura.

Agreed. And this may surprise a few people.

Amherst, just like Haverhill, may have answers, but a public discussion board backfires more than anything else. In the view of the (often lurking) public, the board itself becomes the investigation and the work of police becomes groundlessly derided and criticized. LE's work becomes more difficult, not less. In the long run, LE's work suffers.

Posting to a board like either this one or the old M site, simply attracts to the poster a secondary kind of scrutiny and harrassment by other posters and PI groupies that is unrelated to the primary job that should be performed exclusively by LE and, in some cases, by thoroughly honest and cooperative PI's. These kinds of boards become a game of Ten Little Indians, a game for Agatha Christie detectives on steroids.

I'm sure the family feels discouraged by LE, but I'm sure there are generally good reasons for LE's actions and words, even if they are unclear at the moment. The case of Jack Reid comes to mind. Is LE perfect? Obviously not. And some LE and many PI's are rotten to the core. But overall LE allows the rest of us to sleep safely at night. And I thank them for that.

Not every disappearance is solved, unfortunately. But being realistic is not the same as ignoring a terrible event like Maura Murray's disappearance. The intention of keeping her disappearance in the mind of the public is obviously a worthy one, but IMHO a pseudo-investigative online discussion board takes on a life of its own that conflicts with, not helps, a true investigation.

Little to nothing positive has been accomplished by this board, but a whole world of negative has piled up. So much so that it competes against the original reason for helping to find Maura.

Discussing Amherst any further is counter-productive. It just brings out the worst in everyone.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

With all due respect to Whiston, he is not representative of the majority.

Lets take a vote.

The motion is to quit looking for Maura. In in favor say Aye all apposed say no.

The clerk will call the roll.

"Mr. Franklin of 1700"

No

"Mr. Franklin of 1700 No"

<Insert classical music here>

"Mr. Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer of 10,000 BC"

No

"Mr. Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer of 10,000 BC No"

<Insert classical music here>

"Mr. Cajun Man of Louisiana"

No to the Mo-shun

"Mr. Cajun Man of Louisiana No"

<Insert classical music here>

"Mr. Yoda of Alpha Centuri"

A good idea I think it is not

"Mr. Yoda of Alpha Centuri No"

<Insert classical music here>

Harry you have respectfully and kindly put into words what I'm sure many have been thinking.
Thank you for your words of wisdom.

"Professor Plum of Clue"

taaap-tap taaap-taaap-taaap

"Professor Plum of Clue No"

<Insert classical music here>

whiston wrote:

hi all.Can anyone suggest here why Mauras family refuses to speak about her prior life. i ask you to please look at any other missing persons case and the pleas from there families.They always always give information about where there loved one was last seen was working etc.please dont' give me the usual we dont' knows or this is an ongoing investigation these responses are either weak or worse.where is Mauras' family and friends with some answers about her prior life.or are they just waiting for these people that care to go away .speaking for myself this woll not happen.i was banished from the former MMM site for asking about Mauras prior life... take care philip

Whiston, I think this is a nuance of perception. My understanding was (and remains) not that you were banned from the forum for asking questions about Maura's prior life, per se, but in your continued insistence that the family was hiding things and the insinuations of family impropriety and obstruction that arose from that insistence.

It's a subtle distinction, but I trust you (and others) can appreciate it.

I am sorry if this language is less than plain. It's the language I instinctively use to discuss such matters. In plain English it looks like this, which may help to explain why I choose the more formal legalistic language:

You were not banned for asking questions about Maura's prior life.

You were banned because when repeatedly told that some of those questions were unimportant, irrelevant, or simply unanswerable, you accused the family of lying and covering things up.

That's the way I for one read the situation going down, and I know I'm not alone in that.

Sybilz R Us wrote:

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"Would you like me to go further?" LG asks.
"...how does it feel to you now to have YOUR names posted?" LG asks.

Um, Alden? Presumably it felt ok to have YOUR name posted, BECAUSE YOU WERE THE ONE WHO POSTED IT. The previous poster was actually trying to be somewhat discreet, by eliminating letters of your name and your last name.

If you're trying to make another point, I apologize and ask for guidance and clarity, because that's the referent I get out of your post.

Benjamin Franklin wrote:

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Even if the lights were flashing - I know I would be understanding about it as most people would.

Hopefully I would too....if I even woke up (always a question. Apparently I slept through a horse getting out of the barn last night!)

I guess the question being posed here is.....wait, what IS the question posed here? Is Sybil trying to determine whether or not the Corolla was actually towed there, as stated? Or verify a time? Or what?

Sybil?? Care to elaborate?(I've called you Sybil because right now it's the only name of yours I can keep track of)

JMO wrote:

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Whiston/philip ~
Could the lack of response or level of response you expect from Maura's family be an indicator that they are unwilling/unable to provide the information you are seeking?
Perhaps the "help" being offered here is intrusive to them.
I don't have the emotional involvement and history that you share with others here...and can understand the resistance on the part of the family to maintain privacy and/or to safeguard information that might eventually help them find Maura.

Well put, JMO. I'd judge the post as helpful and insightful, but as we all know the judgings are utterly fruity. So I thought I'd say it out loud.:)

FireCat wrote:

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Whiston, I think this is a nuance of perception. My understanding was (and remains) not that you were banned from the forum for asking questions about Maura's prior life, per se, but in your continued insistence that the family was hiding things and the insinuations of family impropriety and obstruction that arose from that insistence.
It's a subtle distinction, but I trust you (and others) can appreciate it.
I am sorry if this language is less than plain. It's the language I instinctively use to discuss such matters. In plain English it looks like this, which may help to explain why I choose the more formal legalistic language:
You were not banned for asking questions about Maura's prior life.
You were banned because when repeatedly told that some of those questions were unimportant, irrelevant, or simply unanswerable, you accused the family of lying and covering things up.
That's the way I for one read the situation going down, and I know I'm not alone in that.

Thank you so much for explaining in more simple language your more formal legalistic language. I never would have understood what you meant otherwise.
Gosh Firecat do you REALLY think that the people here are that dumb.Your reply was just plain rude IMO.