Where is MAURA MURRAY

Oh yeah, then there was someone apparently from NH who was ticked off at a woman on Longboat Key FL for trying to side-step the traditional adoption process.

Seems this FL woman claimed to have something to do with Chosen Child Adoptions on Juan Anasco Drive. Which is pretty funny because it rhymes with Tomasso - if you listen really, really carefully.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/186/Rip...

http://www.a2zyp.com/Individual+&+Family+...

Then there's this from the Connecticut State Police Academy Alumni Association:

http://www.cspaaa.com/News/newsView.asp...

Doesn't take long for $91K to fly from FL to CT, does it?

hi all, as i understand the cell call to Mauras phone.The tower closest to the phone will try to put the call through .Ben with all due respect as far as i know someone took money from the ATM AT 340 PM.What if it was someone elses account she was taking money from.maybe that is why no video has been released from the ATM.take care philip

whiston wrote:

[text deleted] What if it was someone elses account she was taking money from.maybe that is why no video has been released from the ATM.[text deleted]

Itemization of her account shows money withdrawn was hers. I know your next question....where is that itemization?

Don't know, UMass detectives checked this out and it's stated she withdrew X amount, on that day at that time, leaving a balance of X amount in her account.

half moon... must be some other mom.
Maura picked up messages twice before she left Amherst.
I would have to assume that the Londonderry ping was not one of these message callers otherwise LE would have numbers to cross reference with the Londonderry ping.
Sharon said she didn't think Maura would be driving while picking up messages.
Old MMM site claimed Maura preferred to drive on roads other than Interstates.

Maura likely would not have passed White River Junction ( 101 miles from Amherst drive time approx. 1 hour 45 mins) before 6pm( the latest time I would define as late afternoon) if we assume she left UMASS between 4 and 4:30 according to the last person who saw her. It would have been close.
Would her phone have registered the ping call at WRJ? LE had to have some evidence to search for a ping call.

Maura lived in eastern Mass. long enough to know not to get anywhere near Rt. 128 (95) and Rt. 93 at rush hour (or any time!) if she could just take Rt 2 east to 495 north in Littleton, MA. There'd have to be a specific reason to put oneself through that crying-and-swearing-inducing-s top-and-start drive on 95-93. Unless she had something very important to do in that area near Reading (sorry to the poster with that town properly or improperly listed). If she had something she had to do in the Andover area, 2-495 would've worked. Ultimately, tho, I91 is the choice most people would make, particularly if they are not up for additional stress.

I cut and pasted the paragraph below in quotes from another forum. I also believe it is a quote from the Hanson Express article, although I have not read the series in some time.

I've been combing through this thread extracting information and facts that I believe are pertinent to Maura's case. Hopefully I will have my blog updated this upcoming week.

My mind has been focused on an earlier statement, on this forum, regarding Maura's vehicle possibly being in an accident approximately 1-3 miles from the Saturn's final resting place.

(4) witnesses state they heard the call over the scanner around 7 PM re: women left in a private vehicle. There was also mention that Maura's vehicle was involved in an accident on Route 10 in an earlier radio report the week of Maura's disappearance.

Although the statements made on the radio cannot be confirmed I believe Route 10 and 302 are regarded as one in the same. At least it is on the Map provided on Maura's flyer. Could this have been the fist accident call heard over the scanner?

Again, this is a paragraph from another forum that I found to be interesting..........

"The damage to Maura's car does not match with the kind of damage typically caused by impact to a snow embankment or a tree, according to volunteer investigator John Healy.

The hood of Maura's car was pushed in, with a dent on the driver's side hood, but no significant damage was made to the car's driver side headlight or front-end bumper. If Maura had hit a tree, investigators believe there would have been significant front-end damage to her car, particularly the bumper. The damage found on Maura's car is more akin to hitting a guardrail or the back end of another vehicle, said Healy.

"We are considering that Maura may have been involved in another accident prior to her car being found on Wild Ammonoosuc," said Healy. "We're not ruling out that the accident [on Wild Ammonoosuc] could have been staged."

Investigator Frank Kelly concurs. "I will state that her vehicle was not damaged at the site where it was located and towed from," he said.

It is possible that Maura may have hit a deer or moose that evening but the damage appears more likely to have been caused by a truck or another vehicle that is higher off the ground than Maura's car, according to investigators."

P.S. Shack, Kaz' beagle is named Sally. I remember your fall of '06' love affair with Taz quite fondly (wink).

P.P.S Firecat, Remember the movie as good as it gets?

I was looking at the Daily Collegian and other news and magazines about UMass during the period 2002-2004 when Maura was there. This has probably been posted already, but on Page 20 there's an incredibly favorable article about John Kelly/criminal justice. He says in this article (like Beagle Bart talked about) that stolen artwork is a surprisingly frequent crime. It really did make me wonder, as such a bright girl, if Maura found out something while working in "the" (?) gallery.

http://assets.wnec.edu/20/fall03communicator....

Hey Quija,

Ying & Yang

Re: Uniform Crime Roprt - In 2004 there were 73 reported property crimes in the Haverhill area as opposed to none being reported the year before.

Quija wrote:

I was looking at the Daily Collegian and other news and magazines about UMass during the period 2002-2004 when Maura was there. This has probably been posted already, but on Page 20 there's an incredibly favorable article about John Kelly/criminal justice. He says in this article (like Beagle Bart talked about) that stolen artwork is a surprisingly frequent crime. It really did make me wonder, as such a bright girl, if Maura found out something while working in "the" (?) gallery.
http://assets.wnec.edu/20/fall03communicator....

Is this the right link?

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Hey Quija,
Ying & Yang
Re: Uniform Crime Roprt - In 2004 there were 73 reported property crimes in the Haverhill area as opposed to none being reported the year before.

Wow! That is WEIRD, isn't it? Makes me wonder if they started a different data collection method? I guess we could look at the police logs and see for ourselves. I'll take a look after this.

I wasn't really thinking about property crime in general, I was thinking of Maura inadvertently overhearing a private conversation re stolen art and realizing she needed to disappear fast to protect herself and her family. Sounds like too much t.v., I guess. IF her gallery job was directing and assisting visitors, that kind of thing could've happened. That, tho, seems as unlikely as a small group of criminals getting their act together in Woodsville to commit foul play on a stranded visitor, cover up their tracks, and prevent someone from talking. We were told police weren't involved. So at least we know that. And I haven't heard of anyone else in this case smart enough to make Maura disappear without a trace.

Being up in Woodsville spring and summer days and nights this year, yet totally unaware of any evidence found, it was difficult to believe in foul play. Now I don't believe she intended to take her own life. I don't know what the heck that leaves since running away would cause Maura pain for her family's heartbreak. Only thing I can think of is that running away was a matter of Life and Death?(again, related to bookmarked chapter dealing with Life and Death in book in the Saturn) Just speculating.

please clarify wrote:

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Is this the right link?

Yup. Page 20. It's a PDF file, takes a while to load. A criminal justice professor mentions art theft near the end of the article. The link worked for me. I'll give you another way to get there if you can't find it.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I believe White Wash said Londenderry N H and not Littleton. In the late afternoon hours of Feb.9th 2004 an outgoing call was made to Maura from the Londonderry tower. This call had to have been made from with in a 22 mile radious of the tower.

Yep - there I go again. You are right.

I hope Euro looked at the times - it would be significant if the car could get there by side road (albeit dangerously) by the proper time.

Eurobserver wrote:

Hello all,
I just checked out MapQuest and found this:
Amherst,MA - Swiftwater, NH via I-93 (Lincoln,NH):
196 miles = 3 hrs 55 minutes
Amherst,MA - Swiftwater, NH via I-91 (Woodsville,NH):
151 miles = 2 hrs 47 minutes

Euro - you may have been on to something. I haven't looked at "unconventional" routes. I won't be able to until Monday - but anyone can.

If she took non interstates *maybe* she could make it - but only after banging up the car on the way a bit.

If we as a group are able to figure out where the cell phones weren't in reception - maybe get a better time then late afternoon - and if she could get there - we might have some interesting possibilities.

Thank you.

Very helpful - IMHO.

EB: "I cut and pasted the paragraph below in quotes from another forum. I also believe it is a quote from the Hanson Express article, although I have not read the series in some time.
I've been combing through this thread extracting information and facts that I believe are pertinent to Maura's case. Hopefully I will have my blog updated this upcoming week.
My mind has been focused on an earlier statement, on this forum, regarding Maura's vehicle possibly being in an accident approximately 1-3 miles from the Saturn's final resting place."

BF: I do agree as possible that this could be a kidnapping case - this 1 - 3 mile scenario, to my mind is specific to kidnapping involving 2 people, 1 a woman whose role was to get rid of the car and return on foot. These people would in fact live in the 1 - 3 mile radius. But I see also - additional possibilities.

As to the where - I hope that before I am back - that someone will look at the times and distances on the (less used) roads to get to her destination.

I anticipate that we can show mathematicly that the car could have made it to the site -(albeit recklessly).

I think the reports of other accidents prior to the final stop is supportive evidence of a driver desparate to arrive at a certain place at a certain time - in a shorter time period then the roads chosen allowed - an interesting choice of roads - coincidental or not to Maura's prefered routes.

I still question if that was Maura in the car however. I anticipate the mathematics of an alternate route, if possible, will show a very long distance of risky driving - that in my mind looks more like an escape - then it does a mere vacation. Which leads me to suspect - once again - that Maura may have not made it out of Amhurst.

" '(4) witnesses state they heard the call over the scanner around 7 PM re: women left in a private vehicle. There was also mention that Maura's vehicle was involved in an accident on Route 10 in an earlier radio report the week of Maura's disappearance.'

This brings to possibilities to my mind -

Although the statements made on the radio cannot be confirmed I believe Route 10 and 302 are regarded as one in the same. At least it is on the Map provided on Maura's flyer. Could this have been the fist accident call heard over the scanner?"

Do we know the range ofthe scanner - and could it have possibly picked up another in route jurisdiction - that has yet to communicate with the lead investigators - the significance escaping the other jurisdiction?

"Again, this is a paragraph from another forum that I found to be interesting..........
'The damage to Maura's car does not match with the kind of damage typically caused by impact to a snow embankment or a tree, according to volunteer investigator John Healy.
The hood of Maura's car was pushed in, with a dent on the driver's side hood, but no significant damage was made to the car's driver side headlight or front-end bumper. If Maura had hit a tree, investigators believe there would have been significant front-end damage to her car, particularly the bumper. The damage found on Maura's car is more akin to hitting a guardrail or the back end of another vehicle, said Healy.
'We are considering that Maura may have been involved in another accident prior to her car being found on Wild Ammonoosuc,' said Healy.'We're not ruling out that the accident [on Wild Ammonoosuc] could have been staged.'
Investigator Frank Kelly concurs.'I will state that her vehicle was not damaged at the site where it was located and towed from,' he said.
'It is possible that Maura may have hit a deer or moose that evening but the damage appears more likely to have been caused by a truck or another vehicle that is higher off the ground than Maura's car, according to investigators.'"

mcsmom wrote:

half moon... must be some other mom.
Maura picked up messages twice before she left Amherst.
I would have to assume that the Londonderry ping was not one of these message callers otherwise LE would have numbers to cross reference with the Londonderry ping.
Sharon said she didn't think Maura would be driving while picking up messages.
Old MMM site claimed Maura preferred to drive on roads other than Interstates.
Maura likely would not have passed White River Junction ( 101 miles from Amherst drive time approx. 1 hour 45 mins) before 6pm( the latest time I would define as late afternoon) if we assume she left UMASS between 4 and 4:30 according to the last person who saw her. It would have been close.
Would her phone have registered the ping call at WRJ? LE had to have some evidence to search for a ping call.

I thank you for your answer. I have yet to think about this - won't have time until I am back. I anticipate however that you have covered a lot of gound - in a less space consuming manner then I could possibly hope for.

Quija wrote:

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Yup. Page 20. It's a PDF file, takes a while to load. A criminal justice professor mentions art theft near the end of the article. The link worked for me. I'll give you another way to get there if you can't find it.

Interesting, I wonder if he or his office was ever contacted regarding Maura Murray, since they deal with international crime rings involving missing persons as well as stolen artwork, etc.

A Bible given to John Q. Adams as a gift for winning the freedom of the slaves aboard The Amistad, was stolen from his library in Quincy, MA and found in a Gold's Gym in NH many years ago.

Quija wrote:

Maura lived in eastern Mass. long enough to know not to get anywhere near Rt. 128 (95) and Rt. 93 at rush hour (or any time!) if she could just take Rt 2 east to 495 north in Littleton, MA. There'd have to be a specific reason to put oneself through that crying-and-swearing-inducing-s top-and-start drive on 95-93. Unless she had something very important to do in that area near Reading (sorry to the poster with that town properly or improperly listed). If she had something she had to do in the Andover area, 2-495 would've worked. Ultimately, tho, I91 is the choice most people would make, particularly if they are not up for additional stress.

I think it's important to bear in mind that the Londonderry ping call would have gone through if Maura's phone was in a more populated areas.

Or the use of her cell phone might have been jammed. Sounds too space age for most to believe, but it's real enough.

Hello all,
Found the text below on the Web interesting regarding cellphone pings.
From this it would seem that Maura´s cellphone must have been within an approx. 20-mile radius of the Londonderry,NH, tower. Which points towards the I-93, it would seem....
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Cell Phone Pings
This is a very good reason one should never keep their cell phone turned off. If you read about the pings then you will understand, why you do not turn your cell phone off except where you are asked to do so.
People out doing errands alone, traveling alone, or senior citizens should have a cell phone by them at all times.
Read the entire article and see the reasons to have a cell phone.
'Pings' assist in missing-persons cases
Police agencies nationwide rely on high-tech help from phone companies.
DAVID HAYES, The Kansas City Star
Section 1 Front Section Page A5
Cell-phone technology is becoming an increasingly important tool for law enforcement.
Mobile phones are, in essence, highly sophisticated two-way radios. To make and receive calls, they must be in relatively constant contact with the nearest cell tower.
That information from Kelsey Smith's mobile phone was used Wednesday to help find her body. Similar information has been used by law enforcement in missing persons and criminal cases across the country.
To let a cellular network know where a mobile phone is, the handset sends out a signal -- called a "ping" -- to nearby cell towers every two or three minutes. The towers relay the location of the phone to the network. The system only works when the phone is powered on.
A successful ping shows that the phone is within that tower's coverage region, an area that could vary from a few square blocks to a few square miles.
That information, in turn, is used by the mobile phone carrier to locate the phone to pass along calls, text messages or e-mail to the phone.
When a phone is moving, a number of towers are involved, as calls or routine pings are handed off from tower to tower.
In Smith's case, police were able to track her phone through routine pings and from calls made to her by friends and family Saturday evening.
Joseph Farren, a spokesman for the wireless industry's trade association, said most major mobile phone companies have procedures to work with police in missing persons and criminal cases.
The companies keep records of calls to and from phones, and a limited number of recent routine locater pings -- sometimes just the last ping, sometimes up to 24 hours worth of pings.
Phone company procedure requires police to get a judge to issue a subpoena for phone records, often a quick process done by telephone.
From there, Farren said, the process is even faster.
The mobile phone company keys in the phone's number, and its last known location pops up on the screen.
The process can take under a minute.