Where is MAURA MURRAY

Unlike others in la la land!
This is a copy of the actual request filed in
a Court of Law by Det. Landry.
Supporting Affidavit for Issuance of Search Warrant I, Todd D. Landry, do hereby depose and say;
1. That I am currently employed by the State Police and have been for the past ten years. Currently, I am assigned as a Detective at Trooop- F in Twin Mountain, NH. I have received extensive training in the investigation of criminal matters.
2. That on February 9, 2004 at 1927 hours the Haverhill, NH Police Department responded to a single vehicle motor vehicle crash on Route 112 in Haverhill, NH. Upon arrival, Sgt. Cecil Smith was unable to locate the driver of the vehicle. Subsequent investigation determined that the driver of the vehicle was MAURA MURRAY (d.o.b.*** Walker Street, Weymouth, MA.
3. A witness at the scene later confirmed that the driver was MURRAY.
4. An extensive search of the area has been conducted and MURRAY has not been located.
5. During the course of this investigation, Cellular Telephone records have been obtained by Law Enforcement that were used by MURRAY. A representative from Sprint Corporate Security advised this affiant that during the late afternoon hours of February 9, 2004 an outgoing telephone call was made to Murray from the Londonderry, NH Sprint tower. This call had to have been made from within a 22 mile radius of the tower. The identity of this caller and telephone number has not been made as of this date.
6. That identifying the caller of the telephone call could be pertinent to the ongoing ~ investigation and may lead to the whereabouts of Maura Murray. 9'
7. Based on the foregoing, there is probable cause to believe evidence in the suspicious disappearance of Maura Murray may be found through Sprint Wireless Cell Tower Telephone Records, including any outgoing calls from the Londonderry tower of Sprint to Maura Murrays Sprint PCs number *** for February 9, 2004 from 0001 hours to 2400 hours.
Todd D. Landry
Supporting Affidavit for Issuance of Search Warrant I, Todd D. Landry, do hereby depose and say;
1. That I am currently employed by the State Police and have been for the past ten years. Currently, I am assigned as a Detective at Trooop- F in Twin Mountain, NH. I have received extensive training in the investigation of criminal matters.
2. That on February 9, 2004 at 1927 hours the Haverhill, NH Police Department responded to a single vehicle motor vehicle crash on Route 112 in Haverhill, NH. Upon arrival, Sgt. Cecil Smith was unable to locate the driver of the vehicle. Subsequent investigation determined that the driver of the vehicle was MAURA MURRAY (d.o.b.***), 22 Walker Street, Weymouth, MA.
3. A witness at the scene later confirmed that the driver was MURRAY.
4. An extensive search of the area has been conducted and MURRAY has not been located.
5. During the course of this investigation, Cellular Telephone records have been obtained by Law Enforcement that were used by MURRAY. A representative from Sprint Corporate Security advised this affiant that during the late afternoon hours of February 9, 2004 an outgoing telephone call was made to Murray from the Londonderry, NH Sprint tower. This call had to have been made from within a 22 mile radius of the tower. The identity of this caller and telephone number has not been made as of this date.
6. That identifying the caller of the telephone call could be pertinent to the ongoing_ r investigation and may lead to the whereabouts of Maura Murray.
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7. Based on the foregoing, there is probable cause to believe evidence in the suspicious disappearance of Maura Murray may be found through Sprint Wireless Cell Tower Telephone Records, including any outgoing calls from the Londonderry tower of Sprint to Maura 1Vlurrays Sprint PCS number *** for February 9, 2004 from 0001 hours to 2400 hours.
Todd D. Landry

Ben Franklyne said something a while ago that raised a question. If it's a good question, credit him. If I garbled his question and it's a bad one, I'll take the blame.

You all remember how we were wondering how Cecil Smith said something about the liquor missing in the Saturn. And we wondered how he'd know unless he had seen the Saturn earlier, or seen the receipt (which was in the locked car, car not searched until around 11AM Tuesday. Well, is there any chance when he pulled up he used a flashlight to see inside the car (no driver but various "stuff" in the car), yet after talking to the Westmans and Butch, he took another look in the Saturn and the bottles of liquor were gone? Had the driver returned from a hiding place and retrieved them during the interviews Monday night? And then disappeared? Makes my head hurt to work out a timetable or the logistics of this. Could use help.

bacon wrote:

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yeah, it's disturbing... but i was hoping for some correlation to maura murray... what's the correlation?

I already mentioned this earlier in one of my last posts but I'll elaborate....... the thought is that regardless of the reason Maura left Amherst, while traveling, she might have come across illegal activity in the area. This is the possible correlation.

Need to add, for myself, the caveat that I'm not saying this is what happened. This is a thought. I mean, when someone goes missing, one ought to look at what was occuring in the area. Who lives there? What's the crime rate? What was the weather like? What time of the day was it? Yada yada yada.

What was occuring in the area (not MY area), at that time (not CURRENTLY), that could possibly lend itself into a set of circumstances that could, again, POSSIBLY be a factor in her disappearance?

Just looking at all angles and while looking at the crime in that area, this is what was discovered.

Bacon, I'm glad you asked this question.

White Wash wrote:

This is a copy of the actual request filed in a Court of Law by Det. Landry. Supporting Affidavit for Issuance of Search Warrant I, Todd D. Landry, do hereby depose and say;
1. That I am currently employed by the State Police and have been for the past ten years. Currently, I am assigned as a Detective at Trooop- F in Twin Mountain, NH. I have received extensive training in the investigation of criminal matters.
2. That on February 9, 2004 at 1927 hours the Haverhill, NH Police Department responded to a single vehicle motor vehicle crash on Route 112 in Haverhill, NH. Upon arrival, Sgt. Cecil Smith was unable to locate the driver of the vehicle. Subsequent investigation determined that the driver of the vehicle was MAURA MURRAY (d.o.b.*** Walker Street, Weymouth, MA.
3. A witness at the scene later confirmed that the driver was MURRAY.
4. An extensive search of the area has been conducted and MURRAY has not been located.
5. During the course of this investigation, Cellular Telephone records have been obtained by Law Enforcement that were used by MURRAY. A representative from Sprint Corporate Security advised this affiant that during the late afternoon hours of February 9, 2004 an outgoing telephone call was made to Murray from the Londonderry, NH Sprint tower. This call had to have been made from within a 22 mile radius of the tower. The identity of this caller and telephone number has not been made as of this date.
6. That identifying the caller of the telephone call could be pertinent to the ongoing ~ investigation and may lead to the whereabouts of Maura Murray. 9'
7. Based on the foregoing, there is probable cause to believe evidence in the suspicious disappearance of Maura Murray may be found through Sprint Wireless Cell Tower Telephone Records, including any outgoing calls from the Londonderry tower of Sprint to Maura Murrays Sprint PCs number *** for February 9, 2004 from 0001 hours to 2400 hours.
Todd D. Landry
Supporting Affidavit for Issuance of Search Warrant I, Todd D. Landry, do hereby depose and say;
1. That I am currently employed by the State Police and have been for the past ten years. Currently, I am assigned as a Detective at Trooop- F in Twin Mountain, NH. I have received extensive training in the investigation of criminal matters.
2. That on February 9, 2004 at 1927 hours the Haverhill, NH Police Department responded to a single vehicle motor vehicle crash on Route 112 in Haverhill, NH. Upon arrival, Sgt. Cecil Smith was unable to locate the driver of the vehicle. Subsequent investigation determined that the driver of the vehicle was MAURA MURRAY (d.o.b.***), 22 Walker Street, Weymouth, MA.
3. A witness at the scene later confirmed that the driver was MURRAY.
4. An extensive search of the area has been conducted and MURRAY has not been located.
5. During the course of this investigation, Cellular Telephone records have been obtained by Law Enforcement that were used by MURRAY. A representative from Sprint Corporate Security advised this affiant that during the late afternoon hours of February 9, 2004 an outgoing telephone call was made to Murray from the Londonderry, NH Sprint tower. This call had to have been made from within a 22 mile radius of the tower. The identity of this caller and telephone number has not been made as of this date.
6. That identifying the caller of the telephone call could be pertinent to the ongoing_ r investigation and may lead to the whereabouts of Maura Murray.
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7. Based on the foregoing, there is probable cause to believe evidence in the suspicious disappearance of Maura Murray may be found through Sprint Wireless Cell Tower Telephone Records, including any outgoing calls from the Londonderry tower of Sprint to Maura 1Vlurrays Sprint PCS number *** for February 9, 2004 from 0001 hours to 2400 hours.
Todd D. Landry

WW, thank you for this information. WW, thank you for this information.

I came across this parargraph from Sharon R's notes while coming through this Topix thread and felt it was worth re-posting.

It wouldn't hurt to go back to the beginning, say February 10, 2004.....

"...Shortly after, Sergeant Cecil Smith from the Haverhill Police Department called me. He wanted information on how he could speak to Sprint to get the information that I had learned first hand. I gave him very detailed instructions, including which option # to select each time, the name of the account, Billy’s mailing address and my social security number. All of these items were required for Sprint to release any information. Sprint was also on notice that Maura was missing. Before I let him go, I asked what he knew about Maura’s disappearance. Based on my notes, the following while perhaps not an actual quote is nearly verbatim what Sergeant Smith told me:“I was on duty last night and received a call around 7:00 or 7:30 PM that there was an accident. I arrived on the scene approximately 10 minutes after I received the call. As I was driving to the scene of the accident, I met 5 or 6 cars. When I arrived on the scene there was no one present. I ran the plates and saw that the car belonged to 61 year old Frederick Murray of Weymouth MA. There was only one set of footprints leading from the car. This is a tourist area and it is not unusual for someone to have car trouble or in this case get stuck in the snow and abandon their vehicle. I assumed we would hear from Mr. Murray about his car. When we did not, we started trying to reach him today ( note:“today” would have been Tuesday Feb 10th). When we finally reached him this evening, we learned that his daughter Maura, was driving the car.” I asked him many questions and he clearly indicated that he had no knowledge that a young girl was driving this abandoned car. He was very nice and sympathetic. He soon called me a second time stating that he was having no success in reaching the department in Sprint PCS. We were speaking on my home phone, so I got on my cell phone and asked that he call Sprint and that I would walk him through the steps. He was still unable to follow the procedure, and by the time I reached the representative, she gave me a direct number where Haverhill PD could call them."

oops, I meant to write 'while combing through this topix thread'.

The reason why Maura left is very important!
Especially since an eye witness has comfirmed
seeing a Red Truck in the area!
Oddly there just happens to be a red truck next
to the gallary!
What a surprise or is that just to me?
Secondly there UMASS has far more illegical activities than those of Swiftwater Road if
you look at Actual Facts.
Now if there more than one set of foot prints
around her car I would support you DRUG theory.
There is one set of prints.
Now if someone tried to pick her up against her
will her scent ends at intersection that Mr. M
could have seen clearly Mr. A would have seen
and Mr. C would have heard her screaming or
struggling!
If you think for one second she went down without a fight you should spent the day at West Point.
There is zero evidence that supports she did not
leave that accident on her own free will.
Now supporting theories support the fact she
took enough booze with her in her back bag for a
good drunk.
Just wonder what would one do if the sobbered up to find the State searching for them?
I want to put out for those who know anything about Meth Labs there isn't one person on this forum that doesn't have all the making already
in your home.
And of the items needed found right in Maura's car
now does that mean she was making Meth? Well no it
doesn't.
Because people can not accept the fact she left UMASS of her own free will people can not accept that.
We can not help that!

And yes Lady Gray it matters of why she left it
all MATTERS!

Lady Gray wrote:

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I already mentioned this earlier in one of my last posts but I'll elaborate....... the thought is that regardless of the reason Maura left Amherst, while traveling, she might have come across illegal activity in the area. This is the possible correlation.
Need to add, for myself, the caveat that I'm not saying this is what happened. This is a thought. I mean, when someone goes missing, one ought to look at what was occuring in the area. Who lives there? What's the crime rate? What was the weather like? What time of the day was it? Yada yada yada.
What was occuring in the area (not MY area), at that time (not CURRENTLY), that could possibly lend itself into a set of circumstances that could, again, POSSIBLY be a factor in her disappearance?
Just looking at all angles and while looking at the crime in that area, this is what was discovered.
Bacon, I'm glad you asked this question.

This is going on memory!
I think it's important to stick to
time lines that have documentations
that can support it and weave in
memory!
Just my opinion!
As things go on they get implanted in memories and
it gets built upon but it's not the always the
actual events.

I agree that Feb 9 is the starting point.

Why make Maura flee?

elsewherebriefly wrote:

I came across this parargraph from Sharon R's notes while coming through this Topix thread and felt it was worth re-posting.
It wouldn't hurt to go back to the beginning, say February 10, 2004.....
"...Shortly after, Sergeant Cecil Smith from the Haverhill Police Department called me. He wanted information on how he could speak to Sprint to get the information that I had learned first hand. I gave him very detailed instructions, including which option # to select each time, the name of the account, Billy’s mailing address and my social security number. All of these items were required for Sprint to release any information. Sprint was also on notice that Maura was missing. Before I let him go, I asked what he knew about Maura’s disappearance. Based on my notes, the following while perhaps not an actual quote is nearly verbatim what Sergeant Smith told me:“I was on duty last night and received a call around 7:00 or 7:30 PM that there was an accident. I arrived on the scene approximately 10 minutes after I received the call. As I was driving to the scene of the accident, I met 5 or 6 cars. When I arrived on the scene there was no one present. I ran the plates and saw that the car belonged to 61 year old Frederick Murray of Weymouth MA. There was only one set of footprints leading from the car. This is a tourist area and it is not unusual for someone to have car trouble or in this case get stuck in the snow and abandon their vehicle. I assumed we would hear from Mr. Murray about his car. When we did not, we started trying to reach him today ( note:“today” would have been Tuesday Feb 10th). When we finally reached him this evening, we learned that his daughter Maura, was driving the car.” I asked him many questions and he clearly indicated that he had no knowledge that a young girl was driving this abandoned car. He was very nice and sympathetic. He soon called me a second time stating that he was having no success in reaching the department in Sprint PCS. We were speaking on my home phone, so I got on my cell phone and asked that he call Sprint and that I would walk him through the steps. He was still unable to follow the procedure, and by the time I reached the representative, she gave me a direct number where Haverhill PD could call them."

White Wash wrote:

This is going on memory!
I think it's important to stick to
time lines that have documentations
that can support it and weave in
memory!
Just my opinion!
As things go on they get implanted in memories and
it gets built upon but it's not the always the
actual events.
I agree that Feb 9 is the starting point.
Why make Maura flee?
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White Wash,

Why did the SBD change his stories so many times when he spoke to the media. do not know his orginal/factual statement made to LE.

I understand the media misquotes and twists statements but there are just TOO many misquotes and twisted statements. With all due respect to your personal opinions, I deemed the SBD a liar long long ago entirely on my own so it came as no suprise when Weeper confirmed this.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

”There was only one set of footprints leading from the car."

This was the statement that I remembered. It wasn’t explicit in CS’s written statement but must have been part of his search of the roadway included in his report. If there is only one set of prints leading away from the car then it is very unlikely that the “smoking man” was in the car. It is very unlikely that what ever happened to Maura happened at the car. The only way to come to another conclusion is you need to disregard the eyewitness ID of Maura at the car or believe that CS is intentionally lying. I believe the eyewitness saw Maura and I don’t believe that CS is lying.

Bill

White Wash,

I am sorry I didn't answer your original question. I did the same exact thing when I was Maura's age. I took off to Booth Bay Harbor for a few days without telling a soul.

I believe Maura left U-Mass to get away just like I did.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

I came across this parargraph from Sharon R's notes while coming through this Topix thread and felt it was worth re-posting.
It wouldn't hurt to go back to the beginning, say February 10, 2004.....[text deleted] Before I let him go, I asked what he knew about Maura’s disappearance. Based on my notes, the following while perhaps not an actual quote is nearly verbatim what Sergeant Smith told me:“I was on duty last night and received a call around 7:00 or 7:30 PM that there was an accident. I arrived on the scene approximately 10 minutes after I received the call. As I was driving to the scene of the accident, I met 5 or 6 cars. When I arrived on the scene there was no one present. I ran the plates and saw that the car belonged to 61 year old Frederick Murray of Weymouth MA. There was only one set of footprints leading from the car. This is a tourist area and it is not unusual for someone to have car trouble or in this case get stuck in the snow and abandon their vehicle. I assumed we would hear from Mr. Murray about his car. When we did not, we started trying to reach him today ( note:“today” would have been Tuesday Feb 10th). When we finally reached him this evening, we learned that his daughter Maura, was driving the car.” I asked him many questions and he clearly indicated that he had no knowledge that a young girl was driving this abandoned car.[text deleted]."

I'm glad you posted this, I've been having the same thoughts about Sharon's info from those first few days. I've picked out the piece above because this is one of the first contradictions.

Why would LE deny knowing it was a female? It is obvious from the dispatch report that it was known to be a female. They even issued a BOLO for a female and, yet, Sharon was told by CS that the first they knew it was a female was when they talked to Fred Murray?

Also, note that CS says he rec'd a call around 7:00 or 7:30 pm. LE know when they receive a call, might be off a few minutes give or take, but this is a 30 minute discrepancy.

And, I have to correct something I said earlier. Everything does matter in Maura's case. Everything. What needs to be discerned is if it is relevant to her disappearance.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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White Wash,
Why did the SBD change his stories so many times when he spoke to the media. do not know his orginal/factual statement made to LE.
I understand the media misquotes and twists statements but there are just TOO many misquotes and twisted statements. With all due respect to your personal opinions, I deemed the SBD a liar long long ago entirely on my own so it came as no suprise when Weeper confirmed this.

When one tells the truth, in the very beginning, the story never varies.

When one is not telling the truth, then each time the story is told, the info changes because they forget what they've said.

The truth never varies.

This is why LE repeatedly ask the same questions of suspects (I'm not saying he's a suspect. He is a witness). Over and over and over and over. For hours and hours. Inconsistencies appear if the truth is not being told. New facts emerge. Critical info is changed.

I think the big question is WHY the SBD, as a witness, didn't feel comfortable in telling the truth in the beginning.

The ONLY THING that has NEVER varied in the SBD's story is that the FEMALE WAS NOT INTOXICATED!!!!(how ya like those CAPS and EXCLAMATION MARKS?!!!)

oops, still didn't answer your question White Wash, sorry!

The only person who can place Maura at the Weathered Barn accident site is the SBD.

It sounds to me that the responding officer was not informed by the SBD or by radio contact that a young woman was driving the Saturn. In his own words above he stated he believed the driver was a 61 year old man who was driving the Saturn.

With all due respect you are entitled to your
opinion.
I have formed mine on the police statement and
statement made prior to the family emotions
played in and the Media circus it became.
Just my opinions which we all are entitled to.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

<quoted text>
White Wash,
Why did the SBD change his stories so many times when he spoke to the media. do not know his orginal/factual statement made to LE.
I understand the media misquotes and twists statements but there are just TOO many misquotes and twisted statements. With all due respect to your personal opinions, I deemed the SBD a liar long long ago entirely on my own so it came as no suprise when Weeper confirmed this.

Without the time line in front of me!
It was my understanding that Sgt. Smith
ran the plate which came back to a Fred Murray.
I was my understanding it was after that that
SBD exwife's call came in and was relayed to
Sgt. Smith who I beleive was checking for the driver at the Westmans again I don't have reports in front of me not stating FACTS here.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

oops, still didn't answer your question White Wash, sorry!
The only person who can place Maura at the Weathered Barn accident site is the SBD.
It sounds to me that the responding officer was not informed by the SBD or by radio contact that a young woman was driving the Saturn. In his own words above he stated he believed the driver was a 61 year old man who was driving the Saturn.

By process of elimination and knowing Maura's UMASS friends were concerned for her on the evening of the 9th.....and with acknowlegdement of the late afternoon Londonderry ping, were there additional search warrants to look for additional pings coming out of Amherst, and from Billy's phone?

Wouldn't they exist in "ping land" as well?

And if there is nothing beyond the late afternoon Londonderry ping....why not?

We could speculate that after the late afternoon Londonderry ping, that something took place closer to that time to Maura's phone, below WRJ, and below the radius of the tower in that area.

Lady Gray wrote:

<quoted text>
I already mentioned this earlier in one of my last posts but I'll elaborate....... the thought is that regardless of the reason Maura left Amherst, while traveling, she might have come across illegal activity in the area. This is the possible correlation.
Need to add, for myself, the caveat that I'm not saying this is what happened. This is a thought. I mean, when someone goes missing, one ought to look at what was occuring in the area. Who lives there? What's the crime rate? What was the weather like? What time of the day was it? Yada yada yada.
What was occuring in the area (not MY area), at that time (not CURRENTLY), that could possibly lend itself into a set of circumstances that could, again, POSSIBLY be a factor in her disappearance?
Just looking at all angles and while looking at the crime in that area, this is what was discovered.
Bacon, I'm glad you asked this question.

lady gray, thanks for taking the time to explain. i figured that's what you were saying -- and i do agree that everything should be considered, atleast once.

Thanks Lady Gray,

I gave the responding officer the benefit of the doubt about not knowing it was a female that night. Also picked up on 7:00 - 7:30 accident call. Re: first accident 7:00 pm woman left in a private vehicle.

I also agree that the SBD is a witness and by no means am I implying he is a suspect.

At this point I believe Butch saw Maura herself. I too don't believe CS lied to cover up anything criminal on his part. I believe that to this day the Westmans differ on what they believe they witnessed, and I think that is common and on par for the course.

I initially thought Maura left in despair, great upset, fear, embarrassment, confusion, desperation and an inner feeling of dishonor, most of this exaggerated from stress and depression. I thought she wasn't thinking clearly and was going to take her own life, although I didn't believe she was 100% decided, but was drinking a lot and sort of letting the decision just happen. Several of us believed on visits to Woodsville that we could almost pinpoint where we strongly thought Maura would have ended up after leaving the Saturn at the snowbank, perhaps using plowed driveways and icy or bare patches to obscure footprints.

Now, with whiston's excellent questions regarding Amherst and his and other posters' detailing what they believe about Maura's (dormitory) life at UMass, I am thinking that she was traveling in tandem with a friend, probably a guy, and was running away from something she was either frightened of or moving on from in her life. Maybe she was with the guy in the red truck. Maybe a guy who bought replacement bulbs of some unidentified type for the Saturn whose wrapper was apparently found in the Saturn. Maybe a guy who had a place for Maura to stay in Amherst that was more tolerable than her packed-up, not livable dorm room. Maybe this was why a girl on her floor never knew she lived there. I know that on a dorm floor with 40 girls by the end of the first week I'd seen every one at one time or another in the bathroom, hallway, stairs, elevator, etc. Maybe this was part of Maura being so secretive, not letting her security supervisor escort her up to her room -- because she was going somewhere else? Same with after the Saturday night party and before she drove Fred's Toyota towards his motel? None of this is new. All this has been said or asked about in this forum. Now that I think of it, I pretty much paraphrased another person's post here from the other day....

What I don't understand is why this is considered to be irrelevant. It's completely relevant! Maura and Billy were young. It was obvious that for a period of time they had a beautiful, loving relationship. It was also obvious how much Maura and Sharon loved each other. But Maura was JUST 21! IMHO that is very young for a maturing girl to commit to marriage, particularly with the "difficult, long-distance relationship". So what is so horrible about Maura having ambivalence about this relationship? Does it make her a bad person? Of course not. Does it ruin her character? Of course not. But can we discuss this freely? Of course not.