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Shack

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Philip all I can remember about the contents of car was the photograph of Kathleen hugging a pair of footwear. There was, of course, the book, with a photo of her brother tucked inside. There was an accident form,to be filled out with Fred, that night, on the phone. There was mention of schools books...dunno how many. Of course there was her jewelry and Joseph.
There was made mention of her personal items
such as birth control pills....(and I am assuming
the usual toiletries..such as deodorant etc.)

Then there is the box of wine on back seat.
The strangest thing to me is how CS could
claim that some of the alcohol was missing,
(the 3 bottles of Mudslides ingredients).
when the car was found locked.
Maybe they opened the car at the site..found the empty paper bags...? With a receipt...?

Always wished that with, or on the "directions" that were found, that there was some answers..ie telephone # Jane/John Doe....
citigirl

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White Wash wrote:
When you think do you even remotely ponder going to www.yellowpages.com and taking the step to look up anything before Slandering people?
Actually it was Dick McKean's aka Northland Auto Body and Towing week for towing!
Dispatch called Lavoies by mistake!
So both Northland and Lavoies arrived at the accident that night! Count them 2 towing companies
present!
What town employee are we related to as I really
should introduce myself since I am unware of any
town employees in the family.
Also Tic Tac Towing, A Notch Above, GSR towing
to name a few of the others in the area humm
since more than 1.
This is the last time I will ask you nicely to stop SLANDERING MY FAMILY!
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So since dispatch accidently called Lavoies by mistake how is it that Northland towing showed up at the scene if they were not called? Do we know what time Northland towing showed up at the scene and what time they left?
elsewherebriefly

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I hear ya Firecat.

I just hope the information that I do convey about serial sex offenders isn't brushed off or not taken into serious consideration amidst the joking.

I don't think anyone is going to be laughing when the 600+ identities of Level II & III sex offenders against adults are made public on the New Hampshire Sex Offender Registry after the first of the year.

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Nov 5, 2008
 
I haven't looked this over, but apparently AAA uses a system called D/2000. I don't know if it was working in 2004.

Here is some rough information:

http://www.mentoreng.com/assets/pdf/ServiceOn...

http://sscsinc.com/products/d2000.html

Also - Tow truck companies - when I had some vague familiarilty with them - used CB radios. If the police dispatcher called Lavois over the radio or if Lavois called a driver and the other company knew that it was supposed to be their job - I would expect both drivers to show up.

I also know that there are some tow truck drivers that "squat" on other calls as was said by Lady Grey and Shack I believe.
Browsing

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mcsmom wrote:
But what if there was an earlier accident very close by and she used a land line, or asked someone to call for her.
I'm not one to deviate from the responsible person she obviously had to be.....
I myself believe AAA was contacted.
What if she did ask someone to call for her and they weren't able to get a signal and crossed over the state line into VT...maybe we should be looking for AAA calls that night from Wells River or other close by towns in VT.
Shack

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Elsewhere...that is good news...re: the sex offender list...if you mentioned it before...
I forgot...of course ;-]
Shack

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Citigirl, Maybe Northland had been called for the 7PM scanner call, heard by Anne, family and friends.?..and was already there...in the vicinity...soooo...Dispatch thought that they were already in service....and called Lavoie.
Interesting that no mention of Northland in Log....perhaps that was omitted in the November re-write in log.
Odd for a mistake...? by dispatch...? hmmm.
Shack

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But, as BF said...they can communicate with each
other...(the tow drivers) why wouldn't Northland
tell Lavoie..."we got it...we are there already etc."
Whole bunches of people and nobody saw Maura
aarrggh! Does Northland drive a red truck..?
grasping at straws here..sorry....

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Nov 5, 2008
 
Browsing wrote:
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What if she did ask someone to call for her and they weren't able to get a signal and crossed over the state line into VT...maybe we should be looking for AAA calls that night from Wells River or other close by towns in VT.
I second that - something police should check.
whiston

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Nov 6, 2008
 
hi all, i am not sure when Maura got the AAA membership from the Rausch family. I am pondering here this whole AAA thing .If Maura did get it for christmas 03 from Sharon she had it over christmas break in Bridgeport C.T. and Hanson M.A. Maybe the call went through the V.T. area or the C.end of the system.Shack thanks for the list.As someone said if things were not there were they taken or did Maura have more at her destination.taje care philip
whiston

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Nov 6, 2008
 
hi all thinking about the papaer bags in the car.Empty liquor store bag with a reciept in it?Would the liquor store have used a box or a plastic bag for 3 bottles .For no reason i have always assumed that Maura put the alcohol right into her back pack at the mystery liquor store.take care philip
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Nov 6, 2008
 
In the Saturn we were told on the MMM forum were empty plastics bags (like from stores), the package from a bulb, Tylenol PM (for running injury), an empty beer can (Maura apparently didn't drink beer), an emergency kit from Sharon in the trunk, new gloves from a Christmas gift. I remember thinking that the interior of the car seemed too messy for a neat-freak, and not ready to bring in to show for selling. Maybe all that packaging stuff accumulated en route to the north.
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Nov 6, 2008
 
Benjamin Franklyne wrote:
I haven't looked this over, but apparently AAA uses a system called D/2000. I don't know if it was working in 2004.
Here is some rough information:
http://www.mentoreng.com/assets/pdf/ServiceOn...
http://sscsinc.com/products/d2000.html
Also - Tow truck companies - when I had some vague familiarilty with them - used CB radios. If the police dispatcher called Lavois over the radio or if Lavois called a driver and the other company knew that it was supposed to be their job - I would expect both drivers to show up.
I also know that there are some tow truck drivers that "squat" on other calls as was said by Lady Grey and Shack I believe.
After 5pm most garages are closed in this area. If a tow truck is needed after hours the dispatcher calls them on the phone.
citigirl

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whiston wrote:
hi all thinking about the papaer bags in the car.Empty liquor store bag with a reciept in it?Would the liquor store have used a box or a plastic bag for 3 bottles .For no reason i have always assumed that Maura put the alcohol right into her back pack at the mystery liquor store.take care philip
I don't believe Maura went to the liquor store on Feb 9th. She and her friends went to the liquor store on Saturday night because they went to a party at a friends dorm. So this could be why some alcohol was missing. She took it to the party. The liquor reciept is more than likely from this night of the party when the alcohol was purchased which was Saturday night
Shack

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Philip..want to edit my Post #7718 Sorry, should have been more careful with my wording.

MAYBE they (CS/HPD) opened the car at the site..and MAYBE found empty paper bags...? MAYBE with a receipt...?

Also, I think..I don't know..that 3 bottles (previously stated as approximately $38 -$40) would be placed into paper bags,not plastic bags, at liquor store. I don't know that there
was a receipt. I don't know how many plastic bags
were found in the car..or what, if anything was
in them.

One would have to know beforehand, that there WAS
alcohol in the car, to state :"SOME of the alcohol was missing".
FireCat

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Where I live there's a law that says liquor goes in paper bags. Given MA's blue law history, I suspect it's the same there.

Also, I believe it's been stated numerous times that they found a receipt for the liquor store in the car, which is how they knew to look for liquor store surveillance (you know, the stuff that the family hasn't seen). One would hope there's a date on the receipt.

This does not mean, however, that the liquor went with Maura. It could have been dropped off anywhere. She dropped scrubs off, why not booze? Especially if it's a matter of "paying" someone back. As in, "I drank some of your Bailey's on Saturday, and I'll replace it." Or whatever.

Or maybe it WAS in her backpack. Who knows? The point is, either is possible.

Example: if I had disappeared in DC two weekends ago, the police would determine that I ran off with a six-pack of gatorade, since the Goldfish crackers, Oreos, Snickers fun size bars, and Clif Power-Bloks were left in the tote bag, but the Gatorade listed on the receipt was gone. However, I stopped and dropped it off with fellow runners in Baltimore. Not a big mystery, and totally unrelated to my whereabouts.

I wonder, would they be so speculative of this if it were anything but liquor? If it were Gatorade, or Cheetos?
citigirl

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FireCat wrote:
Where I live there's a law that says liquor goes in paper bags. Given MA's blue law history, I suspect it's the same there.
Also, I believe it's been stated numerous times that they found a receipt for the liquor store in the car, which is how they knew to look for liquor store surveillance (you know, the stuff that the family hasn't seen). One would hope there's a date on the receipt.
This does not mean, however, that the liquor went with Maura. It could have been dropped off anywhere. She dropped scrubs off, why not booze? Especially if it's a matter of "paying" someone back. As in, "I drank some of your Bailey's on Saturday, and I'll replace it." Or whatever.
Or maybe it WAS in her backpack. Who knows? The point is, either is possible.
Example: if I had disappeared in DC two weekends ago, the police would determine that I ran off with a six-pack of gatorade, since the Goldfish crackers, Oreos, Snickers fun size bars, and Clif Power-Bloks were left in the tote bag, but the Gatorade listed on the receipt was gone. However, I stopped and dropped it off with fellow runners in Baltimore. Not a big mystery, and totally unrelated to my whereabouts.
I wonder, would they be so speculative of this if it were anything but liquor? If it were Gatorade, or Cheetos?
There is a subpena in the court documents for the surveillance video from the ATM. There is nothing in the paper work asking for surviellance video from any liquor store.

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Nov 6, 2008
 
Citigirl wrote: "There is a subpena in the court documents for the surveillance video from the ATM. There is nothing in the paper work asking for surviellance video from any liquor store."

So one question is this -> The Boston Globe reported that and then it seemed to be repeated. Who told the Boston Globe that?

In the document you have there - what was the date range of the search warrant, that is - how many hours or days of footage did they request and between what times?

I hate to "jump all over you" but in those documents - what other evidence do you have there that contradicts popular reports - even if it seems trivial.

Perhaps a mistake was made in the timelime somewhere and this is one reason why its unsolved.

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Nov 6, 2008
 
P.S. Citigirl - I don't expect that you have the answer - I was asking everybody.

Also - if there is a way you can scan the documents - so far as you are allowed (I don't know even if there is any prohibition) you know the folks here will look them over with a fine tooth comb. Or if you make copies and give those copies to someone that has a scanner and maybe a place to put the documents - it may help.

Of course - I don't know how many documents you have - and so I don't assume that you have them all - whatever that really means -[that is not a stealth question - perhaps no one really knows about all of the documents ever created about this case - again no expectation that you know.]

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Re: "P.S. Citigirl - I don't expect that you have the answer - I was asking everybody."

Meaning I don't expect you to know where the Boston Globe got its information - the rest of my message - take on face value.
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