Where is MAURA MURRAY

BLAH BLAH BLAH.......Kelly

Your posts are starting to sound like the teachers voice on the Peanuts cartoon....Charlie Brown

SCREAM!
Oh My!
Oh Me!

Am I suppose to be SCARED now?

Crystal clear wrote:

BLAH BLAH BLAH.......Kelly
Your posts are starting to sound like the teachers voice on the Peanuts cartoon....Charlie Brown

Show us your Balls and come Crystal Clear yourself ole OZ!
Funny how you all have BIG BALLS when you hide
behind screen names!
Let's see how Crystal Clear you really are humm

Crystal clear wrote:

BLAH BLAH BLAH.......Kelly
Your posts are starting to sound like the teachers voice on the Peanuts cartoon....Charlie Brown

So Crystal Clear you have just proven
how most people are!

Was it in a effort to Strong Arm me?

Was because you knew something others didn't?

Was it just human nature you just couldn't keep your fingers shut?

Almost like someone leaving their mark wouldn't you say hummmmmmmmmm?

Hummmmmm..........

Crystal clear wrote:

BLAH BLAH BLAH.......Kelly
Your posts are starting to sound like the teachers voice on the Peanuts cartoon....Charlie Brown

Don't let them get to you WW. This is what they do.In my opinion they do NOT want the locals help as that would mean they were getting true facts and not the fabricated lies and tales that have overtaken this forum from day one.
I'm no longer offering any information to this forum. It is used for entertainment purposes by a few people that have nothing better to do with their lives. They run in a pack like a bunch of rabid coy dogs and attack anyone that gets in their way and then pat eachother on the back for a job well done.They are ALWAYS right. They are ALWAYS smarter. Just ask them and they will tell you. It's gotten to the point that it's sickening.
It's funny how you go away for a few days and come cack to find that nothing has changed, nothing useful has been added and it's the same old crap. This forum has been ruined by a few that have turned it into the old MM forum which made no headway in 4 years in finding out what happened to Maura. What a shame.

Oh I won't let them get to me!
Trust me when I looked at myself
it's usually after a good nights sleep!
But sadly most of what you say is very true!
Thanks!
Maybe one day there will be a place for
those us who take time from our work and lives
to go and do something vs those who hide behind
screen names doing nothing to FIND MAURA!

Wowzer wrote:

Don't let them get to you WW. This is what they do.In my opinion they do NOT want the locals help as that would mean they were getting true facts and not the fabricated lies and tales that have overtaken this forum from day one.
I'm no longer offering any information to this forum. It is used for entertainment purposes by a few people that have nothing better to do with their lives. They run in a pack like a bunch of rabid coy dogs and attack anyone that gets in their way and then pat eachother on the back for a job well done.They are ALWAYS right. They are ALWAYS smarter. Just ask them and they will tell you. It's gotten to the point that it's sickening.
It's funny how you go away for a few days and come cack to find that nothing has changed, nothing useful has been added and it's the same old crap. This forum has been ruined by a few that have turned it into the old MM forum which made no headway in 4 years in finding out what happened to Maura. What a shame.

I don't know Maura but I've followed this case. I have a vaca home right near the Weathered Barn so it drew attention to me. She seems like such a wonderful person and I feel like I have so much in common with her based on what I've read. I have hope in my heart that she is still with us. I can invision her coming hom to her father and family. She has so much to live for. Even though she is missing, sometimes there are cases where people are found after extended periods of time. We have to have hope and faith they will all be reunited. God is with her where ever she is. I think of her often. Everytime I go out walking around French Pond, 112 etc, I look for her or signs of her...Anything. My heart hurts for her as well as her family. Not being able to locate your child must be unbearable.

Quote from Shack: My answer...for those who do not remember...when my father died, there was reference to his mother's maiden name, Moulton, in the obit. I do not and will not defend the name. Any kin was in E.Charleston, VT. I met a few, a few times up
there. They would blend well into the environment and mind set of the Haverhill
area. To be delicate, they couldn't spell Mensa..."two to change a light bulb"....

And another hateful quote: Sophie, just shake your head and snicker. And, think amusing thoughts about genetic testing in Haverhill. Ya know, "I'm my own grampaaah".

As long as this women keeps making these hateful remarks and continues to be patted on the back this forum will be nothing more than a bashing site with no useful information coming forward. Who in their right mind would want to help after reading these comments and these are only two, there are more. She thinks she is even better and smarter than her own family that lives up here. Such dislike and disdain does not go unnoticed and it's obvious she uses this forum for entertainment and added drama to her life as much as she claims she is here to find Maura. I no longer believe that after seeing her in action.
If anyone ever decides to start a new site where hate mongers are not allowed please let me know as I would be more than happy to help in any way I can to find some real answers. I can offer physical help also since I live so close.

The beginning to yet another end!

Shack wrote:

I am from the Maura Murray Forum. On June 3rd, I tried to Post and my membership was seemingly deleted. I talked on the telephone
with another member who was also seemingly deleted. A few days later my lap top went into a coma mode. There were many incoming telephone
calls apprising me of the closing down of the Forum. Just last night, did my computer and I come back to the reality of a the Forum closure.
Hey MN lady...whatever you are calling yourself lately...here and "out there"...Nice to hear your voice. You know that I miss Beth too...Talk soon....Our Silkyboxer/Beth was one of the first members, and a major fearless contributor to
find the truth and justice. Sorry for the interruption folks....pretend this was a PM...I was never here....Attack ducks on Stand-by.
Maura Murray vanished 2/9/2004 after 7PM near the Swiftwater Covered Bridge on Tourist's National Registry on Route 112
Haverhill/Woodsville/Bath NH. We have not and will not forget that Maura Murray was alive before Swiftwater. Local Town and State Law Enforcement didn't do their duty in a timely fashion. I feel that if the MM Forum had not been so active, that it is possible that Maura's fate information would have just disappeared, as do some crimes. Out of sight, out of mind....blame the victim....As Beth said "can't see it from my front porch"..
I have had the same thoughts, theories and feelings since my beginnings of knowledge of Maura's disappearance.
As time went by, especially after the first MM Forum, there seemed to a silent syllabus of sorts to which we were not privy and that we
evidently were not following. Our thoughts, feelings, theories, questions were sometimes ignored. I can truly imagine and understand that our rhetoric was becoming tiresome to the moderators. Perhaps now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of ....
Perhaps with Topix, a combination of new and previous Posters will unlock some information about Maura's disappearance.
Because I was not able to Post in the last days of the Maura Forum, I choose now to say ..What a wonderful group of caring souls!
All members really had such good intentions in trying to help solve this crime and keep the news of injustice alive. Standing ovations!!

Wowzer, WW and others ~

My conclusion after reading post #8007 and innumerable others is that, indeed, there is a group united in philosophy and approach to Maura Murray's disappearance that has closed ranks long ago...probably from the time of the original MM site.

In doing so, they have also closed their minds to the contributions of others while simultaneously demonstrating their intolerance by projecting the words "hate" and "viciousness" onto "locals". Progress comes to a halt while their egos are served.
The pattern then repeats itself.

Despicable assumptions are made about "local" individuals, their families, and the culture of northern New Hampshire.

Your offer to assist, Wowzer, is genuine...and should be hard to refuse.

Yes indeed, but that isn't the only odd thing about this.

The Group Who Won't Hear New Ideas.... behaves a lot like the abusive and manipulative. It's good to see it isn't working as well as they'd like here. It sure works well with children, who, when expressing something a parent doesn't like for some reason, is manipulated into confusion, silence, and damage by accusations of being hateful, selfish, not caring about anyone by themselves, etc. It's more sophisticated than saying, "No, YOU'RE the jerk." But it's pretty much their last resort in manipulation --- it's bringing out the heavy artillery. And once we know that when we say THIS, they say THAT, their game is over. When people are so rigid about something, there's something wrong. When the local NH population is belittled as a whole, it's coming from another place (i.e., the poster's own psyche) rather than reality. I think posters who put down NH local residents are projecting (sorry about the psychobabble sound of this stuff) feelings about themselves --- that they may not even be aware they have.

I guess they're like trolls in that you just shouldn't even get into the game with them! My husband chuckles to himself and does not respond when confronted with this kind of heavy-handed abuse/manipulation. It's hard to win because THEY have picked the game!

Back to Maura.

Shack wrote:

Hanover Dispatch receives calls (as noted in Log) but are routed to Haverhill....any action BY HPD should be noted in Log....(should be) No mention of Northland being called/arrival/cleared...altho ugh they were on the scene...(as stated here by local WW), as was SP...hmmm..No calls?...between 6:25P and 7:27P...? Who "turned them back"..?.Who "left in a private vehicle"? in scanner call of 7PM.

I have been meaning to address this question as I have seen it posted several times. When information is obtained through FOI which I believe this was. People often don’t understand that those requests are pretty specific and by their nature must be. You don’t ask for all information between the hours of midnight on 2/8/04 and midnight on 2/11/04. It doesn’t work that way. If you ask for information related to the call where Maura was involved in and accident that is what you get. Just because other things occurred around the same time they may not be included if not part of the request. That is the way most FOI requests are handled to my knowledge and most states behave pretty much the same way. There really is no surprise that there are no references to other activities during the same time because there was no requirement to release that information under FOI. Depending on their definition of what was involved in this FOI there may be no need to give that requested information. I’m not saying this for discussion. You may agree or disagree but this is the way it is interpreted in many jurisdictions. Just the volume of information that can be pulled into a FOI can be enormous and that is how many states/jurisdictions try to deal with the amount of data that can be involved with an “ill or poorly defined” request. Love it, hate it, it’s the way it is. For an FOI to valid it has to be pretty specific and that specificity helps reduce the amount of information that is required to be released for the FOI act. You may not like it but it is a reasonable approach and its one that probably neither side is happy with.

Bill

WTF Thank You!
You seem to have some knowledge on this subject.
How are hard or easy to you think it would be
to delete a 911 call?

WTF wrote:

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I have been meaning to address this question as I have seen it posted several times. When information is obtained through FOI which I believe this was. People often don’t understand that those requests are pretty specific and by their nature must be. You don’t ask for all information between the hours of midnight on 2/8/04 and midnight on 2/11/04. It doesn’t work that way. If you ask for information related to the call where Maura was involved in and accident that is what you get. Just because other things occurred around the same time they may not be included if not part of the request. That is the way most FOI requests are handled to my knowledge and most states behave pretty much the same way. There really is no surprise that there are no references to other activities during the same time because there was no requirement to release that information under FOI. Depending on their definition of what was involved in this FOI there may be no need to give that requested information. I’m not saying this for discussion. You may agree or disagree but this is the way it is interpreted in many jurisdictions. Just the volume of information that can be pulled into a FOI can be enormous and that is how many states/jurisdictions try to deal with the amount of data that can be involved with an “ill or poorly defined” request. Love it, hate it, it’s the way it is. For an FOI to valid it has to be pretty specific and that specificity helps reduce the amount of information that is required to be released for the FOI act. You may not like it but it is a reasonable approach and its one that probably neither side is happy with.
Bill

I don't know about that Bill. Have you read the entire dispatch log, it consists of about 23 pages?

I am not going to speak for anyone else but it just seems really odd that the time frame I've been questioning for years is blank.

The fact that red trucks were pulled over in the hours to follow confirmes to me that there is more than meets the eye.

Oh and for the record, I have not read the Grafton County Dispatch Log.

Hey again Bill,

Here's something you may want to review and consider. I do believe that the information you conveyed is your area of expertise and your opinion is to be respected.

Here is something that I came across while researching Maura's case and it totally blew my mind and for good reason.

Please keep in mind that the civil statute of limitations is (3) years in the state of New Hampshire and what was slated to be destroyed were the originals with letters and materials attached.

Interesting how these important documents landed at the bottom of the page under misc.

They are the Governor's & Executive Council Meeting minutes for 2006.

http://www.sos.nh.gov/archives/PDF/General_De...

Hi WTF. I am not posting much here, but I did want to thank you for your post. We do often differ in our points of view, but it is wonderful to hear someone who does disagree often with me be supportive and respectful. I really appreciate it. Thanks again.

WHITE WASH wrote:

Just for the record I spoke to Monaghan's Boss for my piece.
Lady Gray would you like someone coming to your house? Your husband's kids games ect to ask him about a case? Especially
after he transferred out of the dept?
Shame Shame Shame on you!
But all tacks this area has grown use to
as you can see first hand.
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I wouldn't mind at all. My husband is a licensed certified peace officer who is on duty even when he is off duty. It happens frequently with him - this is why he has a pager and as a family we acknowledge that it can and will happen.

It is a creed amongst them.

Here's an illustration of how limited the use of this (or any similar) board really is, though many people may understandably wish otherwise sometimes.

Right now, tonight, there is a male, young, short height, long hair, who looks like the pictures of MM, and who is riding in a somewhat older, 3/4 to 1 ton red Ford pickup, high ground clearance, with one or two other people (apparently one male and one female). They are staying at a motel near Amherst.

For a male, he looks very much like MM and could easily have been the male double previously "suggested." But statistically this probably means nothing. It is most likely coincidental and unrelated, regardless of the striking similarity of appearance, the location (between Amherst and I-91 North), and the make and model of truck.

He has been acting weird around a young woman (according to the young woman) who works at the motel where he is staying. He has tried to be alone with her in a somewhat inappropriate setting, and in a somewhat intrusive way. But nothing really bad. She feels somewhat uncomfortable and presumably somewhat unsafe near him, but not so distressed that she has done much about it (at least as far as can be determined).

But this information is understandably useless. You cannot call the cops and say, "Hey, there is a guy who looks like MM who is riding in an older, raised up, red Ford pickup with one or two other people staying near I-91, and he reportedly acts weird around a young woman who works where he is staying."

One, the police would probably laugh and take no interest. Or two, they would probably blame you for trying to distract them, and quiz you about your motives and so on. Plus, who wants to drag a probably innocent, unconnected person into something like this?

It's probably just another one of those potentially scary things that make you take notice, mainly because of what has been said regarding the MM case. However, it makes you think just a tiny, little bit about saying something to the police, but realistically it is too groundless and too vague a thing to report.

It's almost like watching a TV crime show (drama) and thinking, when you later see something similar occur in real life, that you should call the police - but you are probably wasting your time and theirs.

It's now almost five years later. Many, many coincidences like this have probably come and gone. But after reading what has been written about the case, your focus can become too attentive, too suspicious... something like this does catch your attention a little. You just keep your fingers crossed, knowing it's very probably a meaningless coincidence.