Where is MAURA MURRAY

ScooterD wrote:

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WhiteWash, I have to respectively disagree. I always was close to my family, always spoke to at least one of them daily, HOWEVER, they had not a clue as to several serious problems in my life during my 20's & 30's...and yes, taking off for a couple days I did indeed for reasons probably not "acceptable." I just always came up with a reason as to why I "wasn't around" when they tried calling me.

I agree that there are some things that a person won't share with their family no matter how close they are to their family and this case certainly proves that.

I'm particularly struck by her not telling anyone in her family that she was engaged to be engaged.

Anyone want to take a shot at what that means? It suggests to me a lack of enthusiasm for getting engaged. Perhaps, a feeling of being trapped but an unwillingness to come right out and say, "Billy, I'm sorry, but I can't commit to marriage right now and maybe never."

There is so much we don't know. UMass may have been the first time in Maura's life when she felt free to do what she wanted to do when she wanted to do it. The difference in personal freedom she had at UMass compared to what she had at West Point must have been mind boggling to her.

I think it's very probable that she had changed dramatically from the person she was at West Point and she concealed the new Maura from her family and from Billy. She was the old Maura around them because had not reached the point where she was ready to declare her independence and display the new Maura.

I'm not saying the new Maura was a bad person or that she was involved in criminal activity. I'm saying she likely had embarked on a journey of self-discovery and didn't feel enough self-confidence to tell her family, "I'm no longer that sweet little girl with the dimples in the photograph."

I believe she hoped for acceptance but feared disapproval. Maybe she was wrong. Maybe she would have received acceptance. I don't know.

Snowy White wrote:

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yes.
for $40, i'd doubt one could have bought any quantity of Kahlua, Bailey's, vodka and wine...even then...and they're certainly not the drinks of choice for men.
except for THE phone call, it wouldn't be unusual for a college girl to visit a friend and bring along booze.
still wonder who she was living with, if not in her single dorm room. a studious, quiet private person might prefer to live alone.

Not drinks of choice for men is right.

As I've said many times, the answer to her disappearance is in Amherst.

A natural extension of her growing independence and reluctance to "disappoint" Billy and her family may have been an increasing desire to disappear and start a new life somewhere. Would she have had the self-confidence and determination to engineer her own disappearance, but not the self-confidence to assert herself to her family and say, "This is who I am."

I wish I knew the answer. One would have to know Maura and the interpersonal dynamics of her family to venture an evidence-based answer to that question.

Personally, I don't believe anyone should consider marriage before reaching age 28-30, because I don't think anyone has sufficient maturity to commit to a life-long relationship before then. I realize that my view probably is a minority view and there are lots of people who married earlier, including some who married in their late teens, who are still married after 25 or 50 years.

Was Maura ready to take that step at age 22? I doubt it.

Besides, what's up with long engagements? I cannot fathom why anyone would agree to get married and set a date a year or more down the road. The concept of getting engaged to get engaged is incomprehensible to me. I think it's one of the most ridiculous ideas I ever heard.

Hello all,

I was being slammed previously on this forum for having referred to the web site "Forensic Astrology", which some time earlier this year featured Maura´s case.
It concluded that Maura had left Amherst voluntarily with a secret boyfriend and that she is still alive.

Mason wrote:

As I've said many times, the answer to her disappearance is in Amherst.

Answers, plural. Amherst is a very rich resource. And we are very, very picky. No one does a better job.

ScooterD wrote:

Can anyone tell me...are we absolutely sure there wasn't another drinking container, i.e. cup, glass, etc, found in Maura's car?

Don't know. Wish I did. Haven't seen one mentioned.

BTW, does anyone know if the Coke bottle was made out of glass or plastic?

Next question. If she bought a bottle of coke along the way to mix with alcohol, where did she buy it?

Did she buy it with the booze? If so, it should be on the receipt that the cops seized when they searched her car.

If not, did she buy it when she filled up with gas, or sooner?

Anyone know if the cops found a receipt for the purchase of the coke?

Eurobserver wrote:

Hello all,
I was being slammed previously on this forum for having referred to the web site "Forensic Astrology", which some time earlier this year featured Maura´s case.
It concluded that Maura had left Amherst voluntarily with a secret boyfriend and that she is still alive.

Well, I'm a glutton for punishment as you soon you will see.

I am deeply into astrology and I know it works even though I don't know how. I think it has to do with quantum reality.

Nevertheless, I am now far more inclined to accept that theory, given what you've said.

I'm off to check-out that website.

As above, so below.

M

WTF-the-original wrote:

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<text deleted> I have always assumed that Maura wasn’t drunk at the accident in MA. Can’t prove it, but nothing in the report of that night indicates it as far as I know. Having an accident right after a night out with the girls is remarkably suspicious. It also wouldn’t’ be the first time a pretty girl got a pass from an officer for a violation but there is nothing to show otherwise.
Bill

Bill, Bill, Bill........PUH LEEZE. Your last comment above is an insult to the intelligence of law enforcement. They LOVE to get DUI's. They live for it. It is part of their job.

And they would never let someone who was incapacitated by alcohol/drugs go free just because they are attractive. That is severe liability on their part in the event something happened down the road after they released them. License plates are called in and recorded by dispatch and it could be traced back to them.

I am confident that Maura was not inebriated to the point of not being able to responsibly drive. To say otherwise insults that officer who handled that accident.

Benji - Go find another site to post on. You are mean and cruel. Of course you didn't have anything to do with it - easily traced through your IP. BAD KARMA my friend.. Bad Karma

We are here to help find Maura

TO: WTF and Lady Gray.

From a previous post of mine:

"It would be unusual for a cop not to ask the driver of a vehicle that she wrecked to perform field sobriety tests, including blow into a portable breath machine, if she had alcohol on her breath. I don't know if the cop asked her to perform the FSTs, but if he did, she must have passed the tests, or he would have cited her for DUI.

'She must not have consumed much alcohol during the course of the evening beginning with dinner at the brewery with her dad and ending sometime after the dorm party ended around 2:30 am on Sunday morning."

The standard set of FST's recommended by the National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration (NHTSA) consists of the Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus (HGN) Test, the alco-sensor test(a portable breath test, or PBT), and the one-leg stand.

FYI: a person who has ingested cocaine or an amphetamine will not have a detectable nystagmus, so they will pass the HGN. They also will pass the PBT, if they haven't consumed much alcohol. They also will be likely to pass the one leg stand. Of course, a sober person will also pass all three tests.

No, I wasn't suggesting that Maura was high on cocaine or amphetamines. I merely pointed out the likely sequence of events at the scene of the accident, if the cop detected alcohol on Maura's breath.

I provided a list of the FSTs and an explanation of the available conclusions that one might draw from passing those tests.

As always, please draw your own conclusions. If you have some further questions regarding FSTs, please ask and I will answer them.

BTW, I hope people realize that I'm making effort to subdue my personality for the greater good although I have no expectation that my effort will curb the hatred with which I am regarded.

I'm doing this for the rest of you because your opinions matter to me.

Eurobserver wrote:

Hello all,
I was being slammed previously on this forum for having referred to the web site "Forensic Astrology", which some time earlier this year featured Maura´s case.
It concluded that Maura had left Amherst voluntarily with a secret boyfriend and that she is still alive.

If anyone is interested, the website is:
http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/2008/08...

Yup, Benji takes the "prize" - law enforcement, meet Benji. Find Benji. Benji says he's got answers,
You know, it's not out of the question at all that if Maura was abducted, the perpetrator or associates would post here. Anything to say about that, Benji?

Yes, Mason, you exhibited remarkably bad taste and a poor sense of what you think is "humor." I agree, however, that Benji is at an entirely different, sickening and revolting level.

Mason wrote:
<<I'm particularly struck by her not telling anyone in her family that she was engaged to be engaged....>>

Lack of confidence - fear of being criticized by your loved ones. I know of many people that "appear" to be confident, out-going, great personality and so on. Truth of the matter is they lack great self-confidence and are fearful of what other's think about them. They put on a good show in public, but all alone is a whole different story.

By the way - WTF, I'm still laughing about your light bulb post. OMG what truth!!! Thanks for the laugh!

Snowy White - check your email please...thanks.

Lady Gray wrote:

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Bill, Bill, Bill........PUH LEEZE. Your last comment above is an insult to the intelligence of law enforcement. They LOVE to get DUI's. They live for it. It is part of their job.
And they would never let someone who was incapacitated by alcohol/drugs go free just because they are attractive. That is severe liability on their part in the event something happened down the road after they released them. License plates are called in and recorded by dispatch and it could be traced back to them.
I am confident that Maura was not inebriated to the point of not being able to responsibly drive. To say otherwise insults that officer who handled that accident.

I am a woman who has been pulled over at least TWELVE TIMES before the age of thirty with never a ticket- various reasons, never DUI related, but still... girls get out of tickets easily.

Looks like it's time for a game of nerves.

Poster Mason seems like the most recent hired gun.

Let's play.

pansie wrote:

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I am a woman who has been pulled over at least TWELVE TIMES before the age of thirty with never a ticket- various reasons, never DUI related, but still... girls get out of tickets easily.

True enough. But was she actually driving the car?