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#202
May 16, 2008
 
claysoup wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that all 20,000 pieces of human tissue sold by the NJ oral surgeon were stolen. I believe the actual number of stolen body parts is only a fraction of the nearly 20,000 he sold to brokers.
THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER... SCARY HUH?
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#203
May 16, 2008
 
question mark wrote:
claysoup, anything in particular you can add pertaining to these items? Do you mean a police car as in crown vic?
SOME ARE FORD CROWN VICS BUT THEY ARE STARTING TO RUN THE NEW DODGE SUPER BEES
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#204
May 16, 2008
 
US Citizen wrote:
Just up the road a bit, Albert Powell was murdered by crack addict Cary Indelicato. I find it odd so many murders/disappearances in a small area. Does anyone see any connection? Really ,what are the odds for the number of murders and disappearances in such a small area?
I believe it is all connected and there is another man involved who runs a strip club without the club.
He has women dance in pvt shows..
I am sure they get more in thier panties than a dollar bill!!!
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#205
May 16, 2008
 
One man know encountered these creeps and him and his son were almost murdered days before Sir Powell but the man removed Indlicato from his home!!!!!!!
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May 16, 2008
 

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In defense of LE (not that they always deserve it), they have to be extremely careful to have a nearly perfect case before a charge is made. Some states require a body for a murder pros, other states do not. States without a death penalty have less leverage when questioning a suspect or prosecuting a defendant. You get only one chance to prosecute. Lose it and perp walks.
Also, the forfeited and/or seized possessions of people considered potential suspects in at least three NE disappearances in two states have been surfacing in local western Mass. auctions for the past several years. Many if not all of these items have been directed to the local auctions by an intermediary who drives a brand new Ford Interceptor, a vehicle not usually sold to the general public.
So true!!
Sounds like Indelicato was busy as he sated to me he knew mass. like the back of his hand!
I wonder how many people in this group played a part in these murders!!!!!
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#207
May 16, 2008
 
anyquestion wrote:
Tom Conrad is a man who was murdered as he arrived home in his own driveway and lived near an active poster here. I beoieve CM also lives nearby.
Your right cw does live nearby and so does his X-Wife..
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#208
May 16, 2008
 
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question mark,
Yes, a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor - by Ford. Brand new.
LE must have examined the items before placing them in live auctions. They also tracked the destination of these items, many of which were quickly re-sold online, after the items left the live local auctions.
Some items were purchased back by LE, who simply kept tabs on the underbidder in order to identify him or her. I assume LE was hoping to discover possible confederates of the property's original owner.
LE concentrated on individual items or, at best, how they might have related to each other in a strictly linear fashion. They missed seeing the overall theme or composition of these items, thus never picking up vital clues. They saw the individual books, so to speak, but not the entire library.
Regarding the question of a serial killer, LE will someday use a "rolling matrix" model to determine whether a number of apparently unrelated crimes are actually the work of one person or group, but it will be a while before that model works its way down the ladder.
Add to this the fact that for the past 10 or so years there has been a huge monetary incentive to kidnap or kill, especially women. Therefore, the psyc profile still used today is very out-dated.
The number of stolen body parts used by reputable surgeons at well-regarded hospitals is staggering. An oral surgeon in NJ was recently indicted by a federal grand jury on 122 counts related to illegal procurement of human tissue. His company had sold nearly 20,000 pieces to various medical businesses. Many of the bones stolen from the deceased in mortuaries and funeral homes, for example, were replaced with PVC pipe. Other areas of the cadavers were replaced with rags.
A single hormonally induced harvest of 10-15 eggs from a very attractive champion female athlete with nearly perfect SAT's would bring about $100,000 on today's market. A larger, surgically acquired harvest would obviously bring much more money. If the black market already exists, which it does, where is the supply coming from?
The phyc. profiling has just recently been upgraded
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#209
May 16, 2008
 
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Crazy, for sure. That's why, when 4 stem cell companies are closely connected to both the $40,000 and $60,000 donations to the $100,000 Molly Bish Reward Fund, one has to wonder whether the old business saying, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer," doesn't apply.
Same stem cell companies were also very near John Regan, convicted of attempting to abduct Lindsey Ferguson, a young, attractive, female track star with established brain power. Just like Maura Murray. And just like Molly Bish.
If the circumstances surrounding Bish and Ferguson are unusually similar, and if Murray shares the same traits and potential fates as Bish apparently did and Ferguson probably would have, then why not tentatively see these crimes as related? Maybe they're not, but I'll bet a forensic accountant would agree that they might be.
From a strictly scientific point of view, the single most obvious feature these women share is good genes. And right now, good genes are very good money.
So then the question is begged. What conventional abductor/serial killer would chose his victims according to their IQ? And chose those most likely to successfully resist a kidnapping attempt, as did Ferguson?
With no progress in either the Bish or Murray cases for four and eight years now, these kinds of questions, once far-fetched, need at least a little honest attention.
By reviewing state and federal corporate filings, along with some other public records, it's not hard to see that this macabre scenario is far from impossible.
Claude and all these creeps are all money hungry for sure.(motive#5)
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<quoted text>well im just trying to piece some of the local talk together. about 2 years ago i was talking to a friend and we got into a discussion about maura murray it was mentioned to me that maura may have been involved with a local construction worker that worked for an outfit in haverhill. knowing it takes time or many phone calls to form any type of base to any relationship. that is why i was asking for info to any prior trips to the haverhill area, for if murder is the outcome of maura's fate it is stated by david abrahanson that sexual elements are always involved in murder. it was mentioned that on feb 9 04 before leaving mass she made many phone calls one to a fellow nursing student. could that be the friend from east haverhill? could this friend have introduced her to a local or locals from the haverhill area? just speculating.
That makes alot of sense although when claude wants soething there is no stopping him, I believe Maura met the wrong man and woman to be perfectly honest.
When Maura said no it did mean yes to these murdering creeps though.
What a criing shame HPD isn't trained enough to be able to jail these perps
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#211
May 17, 2008
 
Oh My where is this strip club supposedly located?
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#212
May 17, 2008
 
I did hear from another that they believed a woman was responsible for Tom Conrad's death, although it looks like there is more than one evil woman there too, because it was not Claude's ex that someone else said.
Why would Indelicato take the rap if someone else murdered Powell? He pled guilty. That doesn't make sense.
Ohmy, who has children w/ who? Conrad? Indelicato?
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#213
May 17, 2008
 
Ok the strip club has nothing to do with this! There is a man who hires women to strip and I cannot remember who he is but will find out..

When claude does something he goes the distance..I know..!!
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#214
May 17, 2008
 
Off to a Funeral talk to you all l8tr God Bless all of U
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#215
May 17, 2008
 
Oh My if the strip club has nothing to do with Maura's disappearance then I think its a good idea to no longer discuss it. I also ask that you please do not post who has children w/who.
LAJFA

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#216
May 17, 2008
 
claysoup wrote:
In defense of LE (not that they always deserve it), they have to be extremely careful to have a nearly perfect case before a charge is made. Some states require a body for a murder pros, other states do not. States without a death penalty have less leverage when questioning a suspect or prosecuting a defendant. You get only one chance to prosecute. Lose it and perp walks.
Also, the forfeited and/or seized possessions of people considered potential suspects in at least three NE disappearances in two states have been surfacing in local western Mass. auctions for the past several years. Many if not all of these items have been directed to the local auctions by an intermediary who drives a brand new Ford Interceptor, a vehicle not usually sold to the general public.
Interesting ! For those of us who have followed these cases from the beginning you post makes sense.

Thank you
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May 17, 2008
 
doc sundance wrote:
<quoted text>weeks
OK

Thanks
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#218
May 17, 2008
 
US Citizen wrote:
Just up the road a bit, Albert Powell was murdered by crack addict Cary Indelicato. I find it odd so many murders/disappearances in a small area. Does anyone see any connection? Really ,what are the odds for the number of murders and disappearances in such a small area?
I agree....and to think local authorities are unwilling to request services from the FBI/other outside agencies.

Do they have something(s) to hide ? Are their own people involved ? It is a very corrupt area.

This WRONG and UNLAWFUL !

It is not just unfair to public but unfair to the decent honorable LEO's that work hard. Sometimes we tend to focus on the "bad". There are "good" LEO's and one hopes they can continue to take a stand against the corruption within their departments.
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#219
May 17, 2008
 
OH MY wrote:
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I believe it is all connected and there is another man involved who runs a strip club without the club.
He has women dance in pvt shows..
I am sure they get more in thier panties than a dollar bill!!!
Been reading......I was told its in basement of Barge Inn. So your Right, a strip club without the club. Barge Inn is restarant.
just me

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#220
May 17, 2008
 
OH MY wrote:
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OK NOW,,WHO SAID HER CAR WAS LEFT ON A CERTAIN NIGHT THAT CAR WAS FOUND,,LOL ,,NOW WHO IS TO SAY WHEN N HOW U FOOLS
CLAUDE KILLED HIS TWIN BROTHER OK..
HIS BROTHER GAVE A DEATHBED CONFESSION ABOUT MAURA
WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED?
I KNOW WHO KILLED TOM CONRAD ALSO OK!!
WASN'T BRIANNA MAITLAND A FRIEND OF THESE CREEPS?
Brianna left the Black Lantern Inn where she worked and drove about a mile down the way. Her car was spotted that night by an officer. Upon seeing uncashed paychecks in her car he went to the Blk Lantern Inn to investigate but it was already closed. What time does that place close? The other person who saw the car backed into the barn but drove on anyhow, was Brianna's boyfriend at one time. So two people saw the car that night.
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May 17, 2008
 
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Been reading......I was told its in basement of Barge Inn. So your Right, a strip club without the club. Barge Inn is restarant.
yes the barge is a restarant top floor, but had a full bar open to the public downstaires. it had a teen night friday night with bouncers at the door. trying to jog my memory what other nights the bouncers were at the barge. they also bounced at the chalet scaffer befour it burned to the ground(funny bussiness) i asked the owner of the barge about strippers "it was denied" bouncers at the barge open two doors entrance and a back room. speculating do u think maybe maura stopped to meet a friend and have a drink seeing its less then a tenth of a mile to 302 would be a perfect meeting place also a famous hang out for CM.
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