Where is MAURA MURRAY

anyquestion wrote:

WeWii, I live here where Maura disappeared and have been involved early on in trying to find out what happened. Not to be critical but I have heard hundreds of rumors through the years which say caution, proceed with careful consideration. The many hours I have spent trying to unravel this puzzle allow me at least to question information coming forth for its accuracy. Wouldn't you agree?

I have to agree with you 100%.

"WeWii" wrote:
"I think that is a longshot... I am sure that they appreciate your concern. However, if LE has dropped the ball on these two young girls. I highly doubt they will try to do anything about some posts on a public forum. I guess the question I need to ask is why are you concerned."

I am not speaking for citigirl, but I will say that we have recently heard a great number of rumors here, many involving names of people who may be completely innocent.
MY concern is that it is not just legally actionable to name someone as a suspect, it is WRONG.
I have heard a large number of people discussed, not as persons of interest, which would be reasonable, but as actual suspects. I really doubt that all ten or more are actually responsible, or if any of them might be.
It's especially wrong to name a whole lot of people with no evidence, without sharing evidence with LE or family or other parties despite being asked to do so numerous times.

I am also - obviously - concerned that wild rumors and speculation do not help us to find Maura - they merely obscure the search for real answers.

sophie bean wrote:

"WeWii" wrote:
"I think that is a longshot... I am sure that they appreciate your concern. However, if LE has dropped the ball on these two young girls. I highly doubt they will try to do anything about some posts on a public forum. I guess the question I need to ask is why are you concerned."
I am not speaking for citigirl, but I will say that we have recently heard a great number of rumors here, many involving names of people who may be completely innocent.
MY concern is that it is not just legally actionable to name someone as a suspect, it is WRONG.
I have heard a large number of people discussed, not as persons of interest, which would be reasonable, but as actual suspects. I really doubt that all ten or more are actually responsible, or if any of them might be.
It's especially wrong to name a whole lot of people with no evidence, without sharing evidence with LE or family or other parties despite being asked to do so numerous times.
I am also - obviously - concerned that wild rumors and speculation do not help us to find Maura - they merely obscure the search for real answers.

I am sure that LE monitors this site. They will follow up on what they choose. I do not find it hard to believe that many people are involved with Maura and several other cases in the area.To some degree they are related.

I do believe that the original "OH MY" is being truthful....Perhaps this person can not come forward due to safety concerns. Maybe this person has already gone to the authorities. What I do not understand is why with all the information provided there have been no arrests.

Was/is a LEO involved ?

Is this case so deep that there is more investigating to do ?

Have they just forgotten about Maura and Brianna ?

Off to a Funeral talk to you all l8tr God Bless all of U

On this day in Aln8bak History

LAJFA wrote:

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I am sure that LE monitors this site. They will follow up on what they choose. I do not find it hard to believe that many people are involved with Maura and several other cases in the area.To some degree they are related.
I do believe that the original "OH MY" is being truthful....Perhaps this person can not come forward due to safety concerns. Maybe this person has already gone to the authorities. What I do not understand is why with all the information provided there have been no arrests.
Was/is a LEO involved ?
Is this case so deep that there is more investigating to do ?
Have they just forgotten about Maura and Brianna ?

LE is not involved as far as HPD is concerned..
I am oh my and i havn't seen any oh my's other than i but this case is now in the cold case file.

I won't stop untill I find the real truth and i only state what i know is the truth.

show me where oh my wasn't me!

doc sundance wrote:

<quoted text>did you mean feb/4th/2004 was a wednesday

yes

doc sundance wrote:

<quoted text>no,it was stated by maura's father that he had stored the rag with other emergency roadside material.

I feel the rag was a life attempt on Maura with carbonmonoxide poisoning,by claude and when she wokeup he chased her running her off the road until they reached the MMM site where people were around!

OH MY, I know that much of what you have written is true IMHO and certainly is the truth as you know it. It appears possible there are more than 1 oh my. Would you post a post using all 3 distinct styles for us?

OH MY wrote:

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I feel the rag was a life attempt on Maura with carbonmonoxide poisoning,by claude and when she wokeup he chased her running her off the road until they reached the MMM site where people were around!

There is another Oh My that posts from Worcester, MA not St Johnsbury

Time for an arrest in this case. LE do your job and lock them up.

Columbo

Detective Columbo wrote:

Time for an arrest in this case. LE do your job and lock them up.
Columbo

I agree. we can send a man to the moon.......but do not have the resources to find Maura and return her home.

Anyone and everyone reading. Please remember these people remain free and we are all at risk of harm if they are not caught and put behind bars.

Any tourist considering the North Country for vacation may I suggest you cancel your plans and go elsewhere. In my opinion the area is not safe.....

LAJFA wrote:

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I agree. we can send a man to the moon.......but do not have the resources to find Maura and return her home.
Anyone and everyone reading. Please remember these people remain free and we are all at risk of harm if they are not caught and put behind bars.
Any tourist considering the North Country for vacation may I suggest you cancel your plans and go elsewhere. In my opinion the area is not safe.....

It appears we do not have the right resources to protect residents or tourists. Oh My stated that it is a cold case. I hope this is not the truth. I hope LE picks up the ball here and do some real investigation.

Can Fred make his own case saying he was given a bloody knife, told by the one giving that knife, that his own brother may have done this......
Can't Fred make a case that LE did not want to act on this information, DNA, etc from the A-frame where the accused lived at one point........
Would this not be enough to make a case of his own for Fred or does he have no rights to justice being served?

I mean, I realize LE for example has this and/or/any evidence pertaining to the knife, the owner, fingerprints, the A-frame, the DNA test results......and Fred does not, but he's a witness who can lead the FBI for example right into this, or am I dreaming?
The part that bugs me is that it does not go any further and by all accounts it should have.

Although LE may have underestimated the initial seriousness of finding a driverless car on a February night, I really don't think they are as lazy or as deceitful as people often portray them. Some are, but most are not.

I'm sure the Murray case is a difficult one and I respect the need of LE to proceed carefully in order to assure a proper prosecution. A hasty investigation can easily incur an outright dismissal even before a trial gets off the ground. But the many appeals that are usually filed following a guilty verdict in a case like this can be mind boggling.

From a prosecutor's point of view, an arrest in a capital case is often only the beginning of a very expensive and exhausting 10-15 year legal battle. And for the families, that's an eternity. Four years does seem like a long time to solve this case, but unless there's absolute proof that LE is dragging their feet, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt a while longer. They get only one chance to do it right.

And if LE does come up with a solid prosecution, every word of criticism should be turned into three of gratitude and respect.

claysoup wrote:

Although LE may have underestimated the initial seriousness of finding a driverless car on a February night, I really don't think they are as lazy or as deceitful as people often portray them. Some are, but most are not.
I'm sure the Murray case is a difficult one and I respect the need of LE to proceed carefully in order to assure a proper prosecution. A hasty investigation can easily incur an outright dismissal even before a trial gets off the
ground. But the many appeals that are usually filed following a guilty verdict in a case like this can be mind boggling.
From a prosecutor's point of view, an arrest in a capital case is often only the beginning of a very expensive and exhausting 10-15 year legal battle. And for the families, that's an eternity. Four years does seem like a long time to solve this case, but unless there's absolute proof that LE is dragging their feet, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt a while longer. They get only one chance to do it right.
And if LE does come up with a solid prosecution, every word of criticism should be turned into three of gratitude and respect.

Claysoup, I must say that is a well thought post that makes sense. It is heart wrenching to know the process is so impeded! I do believe LE needs to be addressing several posts here particularly OH MY who appears to have substantial information!

anyquestion,

Thanks. It's obviously impossible for the general public to know exactly what LE is doing behind the scenes, so maybe they are taking some of the previous posts more seriously than we think. And maybe not. Hard to say.

Regarding the knife... although I don't know the details, I would guess there is a sound legal and/or investigative reason for declining it. Every move they make has a little voice attached to it: "What's the defense attorney going to say about this?"

Yes, Maura's case is very frustrating, as are so many others. I cannot imagine the pain her family endures. Everyone hopes an arrest is made soon, but a good arrest later is better than a sloppy one now.

claysoup wrote:

Although LE may have underestimated the initial seriousness of finding a driverless car on a February night, I really don't think they are as lazy or as deceitful as people often portray them. Some are, but most are not.
I'm sure the Murray case is a difficult one and I respect the need of LE to proceed carefully in order to assure a proper prosecution. A hasty investigation can easily incur an outright dismissal even before a trial gets off the ground. But the many appeals that are usually filed following a guilty verdict in a case like this can be mind boggling.
From a prosecutor's point of view, an arrest in a capital case is often only the beginning of a very expensive and exhausting 10-15 year legal battle. And for the families, that's an eternity. Four years does seem like a long time to solve this case, but unless there's absolute proof that LE is dragging their feet, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt a while longer. They get only one chance to do it right.
And if LE does come up with a solid prosecution, every word of criticism should be turned into three of gratitude and respect.

<<<UNDERESTIMATE >>>>?????? Are you familiar with the Maura Murray case because if not, you should spend time on her forum reading what the family has to say. How they were treated, what they were told and so on. From the onset the police told stories and pushed the family away. They have got to do alot of looking for answers on their own because of the lack of communication. I can appreciate what you're saying about respect, but it works both ways. I'm not saying that in a derogatory way, please understand me. www.mauramurraymissing.com
Gratitude and respect?

Oh MY do you have a location as to where they may have put Maura and Brianna?

claysoup wrote:

anyquestion,
Regarding the knife... although I don't know the details, I would guess there is a sound legal and/or investigative reason for declining it. Every move they make has a little voice attached to it: "What's the defense attorney going to say about this?"
Yes, Maura's case is very frustrating, as are so many others. I cannot imagine the pain her family endures. Everyone hopes an arrest is made soon, but a good arrest later is better than a sloppy one now.

By not accepting the knife straight out, that evidence is further tainted. And if LE didn't talk to the man who accused his brother, it's too late now he's dead. Let's say it turns out that the story of the knife is true and they had to play by some rule of thumb......every chance they get to investigate, they investigate, or do they?