Where is MAURA MURRAY

Posted in the Franconia Forum

Comments (Page 183)

Showing posts 3641 - 3660 of 11997

1Anne Joined: Jul 8, 2008 Comments: 206 Middletown, VA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3670 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 5 4 4 Paris, I truly doubt that Maura is walking around anywhere, without calling someone in her family and that is just my opinion in learning about her and family in the past almost 5 years. I have no doubt at all that people truly believe they have seen her.
paris AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3671 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 4 2 1 Anne, I'm really sorry for making it seem like I was telling you I doubted Maura would be walking around.........It just figures someone would give you grief now.......I was just saying to everyone that I doubt Maura is alive/was alive, walking around on her own. My feeling after all these years still centers around the "white washing" from those at the scene.......I think they know what happened by now. JMO
paris AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3672 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 4 3 2 Somebody doesn't agree and that's ok. But the stories of what took place that night, how long it took to really look for Maura after issueing a BOL, telling family they thought it was Fred or a snowmobiler......so many things that make me think something happened right there and then and everyones stories are different. I wish it hadn't gone like it did. Not blaming police, just wondering, why all the stories when they already knew and did a brief 15 minute search for her
paris AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3673 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 1 1 ooooooooooooooooooooooo, now that's funny whoever just did that to me. There's either a ghost in the room or a prankster, lol because I just had an x on the post #3671, imagine that.
paris AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3674 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 1 I lost a good long post earlier too, cyberspace blurp, or something. I swear I was looking at an X and so that's why I wrote what I did in protest and to let people know where I stand. That's kind of creepy actually.
paris AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3675 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 5 2 1 oh and now the X is back, hah, ha.....what's going on?
paris Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3676 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 3 3 2 It's pretty sad that the judgements keep changing, maybe it's a race against time or something from ones server being able to overide aol. #3671 said helpful, interesting and agreed after I had responded to the X I had just seen. Then it came back, if that makes me clueless then so be it. I don't want to nit pick, I respect whatever you think as long as it's a possibility, why not. So many things were on Maura's mind that she got in her car and drove away, or did she? If she did, what happened along the way.......did someone see her, was a friend really along to help her get to something for whatever reason? Did the red truck have anything to do with things? Monahan asked RO if she saw anyone walking, I have no reason to doubt that. I thought she just said no and told Police a couple of weeks later about the red truck incident. Does anyone recall this as being so? If RO didn't mention the red truck, funny that 4 or so were pulled over. The real mystery to me is if it was even Maura at the Saturn. I believe the SBD did not harm her personally and likely did talk with someone he thought looked different than the pictures. I do wonder what all he saw though and why he got in his 4x4 to go down French Pond Road. Is this what people would do on a same type of situation? Why have A-Wood help look? Monahan was around, Smith was around and three cars of parents according to one helpful passerby. They all looked and yet when it comes time to talk with family it's hush hush now, we'll do the notetaking Mrs. Raucsh, you'll get a copy and then no copy. We thought it was Fred driving, we thought it was someone snowmobiling and just leaving the car like they sometimes do. Why did they have to go and do that? Why? W-Mans call said, man seen at the car and she wasn't talking about A-Wood. She stopped looking when she saw him. So all this bugs me to this day. I will keep an open mind and explore everything possible to find Maura. I hope she had to go into a witness protection program, that might help explain police accounts. This thought is just a thought, I realize I know nothing. But clueless? Come on now, give me a little credit please
paris Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3677 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 3 2 1 Ok, Topix people. I just got online to read and the last post I left has been altered since then. The clueless bulb has 2 votes. There was no clueless bulb last time. I saw my post with 3 icons. Forgot what it was but there were three things and no clueless so kiss my gritts whoever has the power to change these stupid votes. I think I'll even quit reading because this is nutts, not me, this. Who the hell are you to give me shit and change the settings? And before I go I hope for shits and giggles you get caught.

Jefferson Tolland, CT	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3678 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 1 paris wrote: Ok, Topix people. I just got online to read and the last post I left has been altered since then. The clueless bulb has 2 votes. There was no clueless bulb last time. I saw my post with 3 icons. Forgot what it was but there were three things and no clueless so kiss my gritts whoever has the power to change these stupid votes. I think I'll even quit reading because this is nutts, not me, this. Who the hell are you to give me shit and change the settings? And before I go I hope for shits and giggles you get caught. I don't know for sure but from what I see there is only 3 characters allowed, period. I think but can't prove that agrees (green check) cancel disagrees (red x) and visa-versa. I also believe that clueless cancels brilliant and visa-versa, etc. My guess is that there are other combinations that also will cancel each other. No conspiracy. Its just the way it works as near as I can figure it, but I'm no expert. J
Jefferson Tolland, CT	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3679 Aug 3, 2008 Judged: 1 1 1 I should also write that the net effect is if you started with 5 agrees and then got 3 disagrees will wind up displaying 2 agrees. I should also write that I haven't given you any "nuts" for what it is worth. At least not that I remember. J
1Anne Joined: Jul 8, 2008 Comments: 206 Middletown, VA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3680 Aug 4, 2008 Jefferson, Thanks for the probable explanation on the 'judge it' icons. It makes sense. Paris, good questions and I certainly would not call you clueless. For that matter, I have rarely used that judge it feature. I cannot understand how anyone can judge until all the facts are in.
Quija Joined: May 15, 2008 Comments: 140 Medway, MA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3681 Aug 4, 2008 Hi Paris --- You raised excellent questions about the strange behavior of LE and witness(es) at the snowbank site.(post #3676) Because the Sheriff's Log that was released to the public appeared doctored, I think they knew something had happened. LE reactions, including allowing Atwood to drive around, seem a bit frenzied, almost like they knew a crime occurred and they couldn't stop it? That things were out of control. A search warrant issued for the Saturn so quickly that it was examined the next morning at 11AM (IIRC). Would they have stopped 4 (out of the 6 vehicles stopped that night) red trucks just to see if that driver picked up a girl leaving the scene of an accident? I don't think so. And Jefferson, I had no idea about judgments possibly canceling each other out. But that sounds right. Thanks.
whiston Durham, CT	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3682 Aug 4, 2008 hi all.does anyone know how long a search warrant is good for. i am ssuming it is only good for a very short period maybe even a 24 hour thing.i still dont get what the point of searching the car was if the car was not in a secure place it was a waste of time.how normal is this in N.H.or anywhere else.i am not knocking N.H. or P.D. it just seems odd that if anyone could have been in or at the saturn after the tow then anything found in the saturn would be useless without a confession of a crime.take care philip
White Wash Lebanon, NH	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3683 Aug 4, 2008 Whiston, The search warrant was obtained by HPD on Feb 10th. The car was impounded that night which meant it was in a secure area by Lavoies. Two officers came with the warrant and seached the car Feb 10th appox 11 AM. After a period of time it was released to Mr. Murray. I also took ride on Swifterwater Circle with a camera and Annie that is a Deputy not a Super Trooper that house 2/10th of a mile from the site. It is also surrounded by descend trees not to mention the 2 corners and a Large Barn on one of them! Now how you can imply that Deputy could have seen anything is beyond my eye sight and len! whiston wrote: hi all.does anyone know how long a search warrant is good for. i am ssuming it is only good for a very short period maybe even a 24 hour thing.i still dont get what the point of searching the car was if the car was not in a secure place it was a waste of time.how normal is this in N.H.or anywhere else.i am not knocking N.H. or P.D. it just seems odd that if anyone could have been in or at the saturn after the tow then anything found in the saturn would be useless without a confession of a crime.take care philip
White Wash Lebanon, NH	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3684 Aug 4, 2008 Judged: 3 2 2 Lady Gray, See your own quote below! You clearly state the FBI wasn't invited but they worked on the case so which is it? They worked on the case period! I have stated nothing that has not been PRINTED by LE on this forum too bad you can read all the information with an open mind! Sadly YOU CAN NOT SEE BEYOND YOUR OWN WHITE WASHING how sad you can you be with your little bully slap of Photogirl! SLAP AWAY you look just as you are WHITE WASHED! White Wash wrote: Lady Gray, Am I the only person who finds it odd that little ole HPD would have such power to tell the FBI thanks but no thanks! Sorry the FACTS are they where involved there wasn't enough evidence for them to stay involved! You yourself state there is a power struggle doesn't it seem LIKELY that the family friend who wasn't on the case but worked for the FBI to save face that they where not welcomed on teh case? Isn't that possible since you where in deed not there? Also if HPD/NHSP met with the FBI in Keene NH how is you can lead people to believe they where not involved? Fred refused to listen to them on the car how do we really know what else Fred refused of the FBI and that is FACT! You have NH LE publicly stating the FBI had involvedment. I strongly believe there is not way any NH LE had enough power to just brush off the FBI if they thought they had a right to be on the case! <quoted text>
1Anne Joined: Jul 8, 2008 Comments: 206 Middletown, VA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3685 Aug 4, 2008 White Wash, Thanks for checking it out.
FireCat United States	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3686 Aug 4, 2008 Judged: 1 White Wash wrote: Lady Gray, See your own quote below! You clearly state the FBI wasn't invited but they worked on the case so which is it? They worked on the case period! I have stated nothing that has not been PRINTED by LE on this forum too bad you can read all the information with an open mind! Sadly YOU CAN NOT SEE BEYOND YOUR OWN WHITE WASHING how sad you can you be with your little bully slap of Photogirl! SLAP AWAY you look just as you are WHITE WASHED! <quoted text> Not only that, I don't see anything Lady Grey wrote on that post. It's all you talking.
White Wash Lebanon, NH	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3687 Aug 4, 2008 Judged: 2 2 1 Sorry FireCat here you go! Save your bullying! D O N E you have ZERO desire in allowing an open forum! You have proved again the beatings those endure for stepping up to say what they have seen and heard or know! Any United Force is stronger than a divided! Keep Dividing! Lady Gray wrote: Photogirl to Lady Gray: Am I the only person who finds it odd that little ole HPD would have such power to tell the FBI thanks but no thanks! Lady Gray to Photogirl: Are you kidding???????? Are you familiar with federal/state/city/county jurisdictions? Photogirl to Lady Gray: Sorry the FACTS are they where involved there wasn't enough evidence for them to stay involved! Lady Gray to Photogirl: WOW! How do you know what the facts were that early in the disappearance? And, regardless of the facts that are KNOWN early on, this does not mean that all info was gathered and investigated at that point. Do you know what “investigation” means? Photogirl to Lady Gray: You yourself state there is a power struggle doesn't it seem LIKELY that the family friend who wasn't on the case but worked for the FBI to save face that they where not welcomed on teh case? Isn't that possible since you where in deed not there? Lady Gray to Photogirl: Oh that’s right. You were there. I always forget that, duh. This makes you an expert in common sense. The distinction between you and me is that you are a VIP, privy to area LE info, and you go on ride-outs? Did I say the FBI contact was a family friend? Read again. Also, do you think an FBI agent needs to “save face” by telling a fraudulent lie to a family member of a missing person? Wow, talk about opening them up to liability from the family. Use your common sense, FBI would say “sorry no reason for up to be on the case.” This is not at all what was said. It was made clear to this FBI person that they were NOT WANTED NOR WELCOMED by NH law enforcement. Photogirl to Lady Gray: Also if HPD/NHSP met with the FBI in Keene NH how is you can lead people to believe they where not involved? Lady Gray to Photogirl: What in the heck kind of relevance does this statement make? Did I lead people to say that the FBI wasn’t involved? Did I say that a meeting took place in Keene between these law enforcement agencies? What difference does a meeting location mean? This IS info I didn’t know (did you get your info from a ride-out?); however, WHAT significance does the location of a meeting have? Just the fact that a meeting took place in NH between these agencies does NOT mean that the FBI investigated anything in NH. Again, FBI’s involvement was interviewing witnesses in Massachusetts. They had to be invited by NH LE to stay on the case beyond their interviewing in Mass. NH declined their assistance. Photogirl to Lady Gray: Fred refused to listen to them on the car how do we really know what else Fred refused of the FBI and that is FACT! Lady Gray to Photogirl: Fred refuse FBI help? This has to be just ONE of the most stupid things I’ve read from you. Do you really think after all that Fred has gone through with respect to going before courts in numerous attempts to obtain info, do you really think he would refuse FBI involvement? And that, Photogirl, is COMMON SENSE. P.S. Do your family members and your area LE friends read what you post? You are not representative of them in an honest, intelligent, and respectful manner. I would think they would be interested in what you post.
paris AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3688 Aug 4, 2008 Judged: 1 Father of Mass. woman who disappeared meets governor By Anne Saunders, Associated Press Writer February 9, 2005CONCORD, N.H.-- The father of a Massachusetts woman who disappeared a year ago met with Gov. John Lynch on Wednesday to ask for his help in getting records of the investigation. Fred Murray, whose daughter Maura vanished after a minor car accident in Haverhill, wants state police to release their records so he can pursue leads himself."I asked, failing that, to have it declared a criminal investigation rather than a missing person investigation, and, if he didn't want to do that, I asked him to accept the offer of the FBI to come in," Murray said after the meeting with Lynch. Boston.com __________ Mass. dad asks N.H. gov for help finding daughter By Marie Szaniszlo Thursday, February 10, 2005 The father of a University of Massachusetts at Amherst student who vanished a year ago on a New Hampshire road asked Gov. John Lynch yesterday to release records of the investigation and accept the FBI's offer to help find her. ``Right now, I am the investigation,'' Fred Murray said.``That's why I want the information.'' New Hampshire state police have declined the FBI's offer to help find Maura Murray, saying there is no evidence of foul play, even though the nursing student and former West Point cadet left behind her car and belongings after it skidded into a snowbank on Route 112 in Haverhill. Boston Herald __________
FireCat United States	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3689 Aug 4, 2008 Judged: 2 1 1 White Wash wrote: Sorry FireCat here you go! All I see is Lady Grey saying the FBI was not wanted nor welcomed. Which does seem to be true, from all appearances (which is all we have to go on here). She does not say anywhere that I see that the FBI wasn't invited or involved. Just that local LE seemed to not be welcoming to their presence. What it seems to me is like this (totally fictional, thank you very much!) analogy: I, not the world's best cook by any means, but nevertheless the only one in my household, am grilling in my backyard. My next door neighbour, a four-star chef, comes over because he smells the smoke of my charring dinner. Says, "Hey, can I give you a hand with that?" In response, I send him inside to set the table while I continue to turn my steak into a charcoal briquet. See how much sense that makes?

Showing posts 3641 - 3660 of 11997

« prev | next »

Go to last post | Jump to page:

Type in your comments to post to the forum

Name
(appears on your post)

Comments

Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent Franconia Discussions

Topic	Updated	Last By	Comments
Sentencing deal off for Franconia man	7 hr	Snowy White	83
2 held in Haverhill death	Fri	alichar	127
King bash here (from Jul '08)	Thu	Snowy White	2116
Rumble in Woodsville?	Jan 8	lower slower...	79
Normand M. Boisvert of Easton and Other Sex Off...	Jan 2	yankee	28
spies who love you	Jan 1	johneyonetime	1
Poll: is cable tv over priced	Dec 31	johneyonetime	0