Where is MAURA MURRAY

Good morning all. Thanks Bill for the link.
Elsewhere, even if you could confirm the husband and wife team thing, probably better to let people look for themselves. I know you wouldn't lie and if it's in there as a possibility, I doubt there's going to be a write up. You're right that people need to be aware of their surroundings.
The man with the knife, his brother may have done it, he says. The brothers girlfriend started acting weird around that time. That's speculation too...like what would be weird for her? But what made the brother go to Fred and give him the knife to report his own brother? I'm not trying to start discussion on the knife, just commenting that this is odd.
Wowzer, if Anne, Elsewhere, Shack, anybody,~ if they ever speak ill, it's a generalization maybe for the ones who may be guilty. I'm just an outsider looking in, but I've 'heard them over time. They care just like you do. I know you care Wowzer and let me be the one to thank you, LE, EMS, for what they did do that night. I feel some comfort that you were there that night. If you know more than you can say, I respect that too.
Please don't hit me with the nutts and disagree stuff (anyone), because it makes it so hard to carry on here. It's terrible someone would say that about nests and lysol. I honestly doubt anybody from MMM would talk like that and it had to be somebody else. If we had more help and input, more to go on, we wouldn't have to wonder for ourselves so much. I agree it gets out of hand, all the guessing and so on. Fred finally got public records and by the looks of them it seems wrong they were ever kept to begin with. Just a simple record of events and they would not release them........
What a mess this is and I wonder, how can we get a copy of Maura's hard drive? Any ideas? It would really help to be able to look at what Maura was doing online. I have 5 computers fully loaded with stuff because of my own troubles, one locked in a safe.

Hello everybody,

It makes me angry and sad to see that some not very kindhearted person (to put it very mildly) has seen fit to add three derogatory symbols in connection with elsewhere´s recent message here (post 4755).

This kind of hatred on this forum is upsetting and deplorable.
Please, kindly recall why we are here.
Thank you.

[quote]No problem. I don't even know who sides with whom[/quote]

Clear, your mind must be if you are to discover the real villains behind the plot.

Grammer study, I must.

paris wrote:

Good morning all. Thanks Bill for the link.
Elsewhere, even if you could confirm the husband and wife team thing, probably better to let people look for themselves. I know you wouldn't lie and if it's in there as a possibility, I doubt there's going to be a write up. You're right that people need to be aware of their surroundings.
The man with the knife, his brother may have done it, he says. The brothers girlfriend started acting weird around that time. That's speculation too...like what would be weird for her? But what made the brother go to Fred and give him the knife to report his own brother? I'm not trying to start discussion on the knife, just commenting that this is odd.
Wowzer, if Anne, Elsewhere, Shack, anybody,~ if they ever speak ill, it's a generalization maybe for the ones who may be guilty. I'm just an outsider looking in, but I've 'heard them over time. They care just like you do. I know you care Wowzer and let me be the one to thank you, LE, EMS, for what they did do that night. I feel some comfort that you were there that night. If you know more than you can say, I respect that too.
Please don't hit me with the nutts and disagree stuff (anyone), because it makes it so hard to carry on here. It's terrible someone would say that about nests and lysol. I honestly doubt anybody from MMM would talk like that and it had to be somebody else. If we had more help and input, more to go on, we wouldn't have to wonder for ourselves so much. I agree it gets out of hand, all the guessing and so on. Fred finally got public records and by the looks of them it seems wrong they were ever kept to begin with. Just a simple record of events and they would not release them........
What a mess this is and I wonder, how can we get a copy of Maura's hard drive? Any ideas? It would really help to be able to look at what Maura was doing online. I have 5 computers fully loaded with stuff because of my own troubles, one locked in a safe.

Paris I commend you for trying your best to keep peace. I think you are one of only a few that truly appreciates everyone's input and thinks outside of the small circle.
Unfortunately it was someone that is very active in the forum that seemed to get much pleasure out of insulting and calling names to the locals. Enough said about that as the person knows who she is and hopefully she will stop trying to chase away anyone that might be of some real help in finding out what happened to Maura. Her time would be better spent feeding her attack ducks.

Eurobserver wrote:

Hello all,
I seem to recall that it has been mentioned (on this forum or on the ex-MMM board) that Maura reputedly was said to have been crying "My sister, my sister" while being escorted back to her dorm room by after that upsetting telephone call at the security desk of Melville dorm.
Anyone else remembers this?
Thanks!

I remember reading this as well, and I think it was on the old forum.

Elsewhere, glad you are staying..guess I am the one who is the target of anger...sounds like years of anger..oh well.
Following are facts...not opinions.

2/2004
Maura Murray disappeared on 112, Woodsville, NH ("no proof of crime" ?) other than SP are conducting a "Criminal Investigation"..?

10/2005
Tom Conrad gunned down/murdered in his driveway. Pike, NH (conclusion..?)

4/2006
A Campton man will be arraigned for second-degree murder, charged with (stabbing) killing Jessie Hunter, 24, of Rumney, NH

2/2007
"Indelicato is charged with second-degree murder, and the prosecutor's complaint
charges he recklessly killed Powell in a manner that exhibited extreme indifference to
human life. Huntress said prosecutors can upgrade the charge if warranted."
Warren, NH

Intertwined: Death of a local female police officer, CB...(conclusion ?)
and the accident/murder of a local NH mother and child.(conclusion..?)
AND, Franconia,.Kenney/McKay/Floyd 5/2007 (conclusion..?)
P. Webb, Franconia and P. Clark, Benton.(conclusions...?)

These are all within a semi-circle East of CT.River, Haverhill area..within 20-25 miles.
The population of all these towns total around 5..maybe 6K?... rough guestimate.
(All in Grafton County) Add, registered sex offenders with differing counts..10-15..?
Add in occasional Meth labs/Arson...

How can anyone NOT think that this is unusual?...Small country towns..not City.

Sharon's older postings, in the first MMM Forum.was first mention of Atwood's humming the theme of "Twilight Zone", while she was talking to him.(about Maura's disappearance)
At the time of that writing, I had no idea of anything other than Maura. I was guilty of
my head in the sand. I can totally understand why some locals could/would be aggravated
with me or any other outsiders, interfering with their town(s) area(s) criminal problems.

All of the above are facts...it can't be "outsiders" to change it. It should be the voting citizens to demand of their chosen government(s) to "take care of business"...
All I want is "justice" and "case closed" for Maura...conclusion.
The term "Closure" is only appropriate for Maura's family.

Eurobserver wrote:

Hello all,
I seem to recall that it has been mentioned (on this forum or on the ex-MMM board) that Maura reputedly was said to have been crying "My sister, my sister" while being escorted back to her dorm room by after that upsetting telephone call at the security desk of Melville dorm.
Anyone else remembers this?
Thanks!

I found this here, from post #1049

"I THINK --- will check --- that early reports stated that as Maura was escourted back to her dorm on Thurs nite/Fri AM Feb. 5/6 by her supervisor that she didn't explain what was causing her to cry, but she did say, "My sister, my sister". Does this add to the ideas above that the only time someone might take a rickedy car on a long trip would be for a beloved family member?"

However, this is not the first place I saw this, I'm sure I saw it on the old MMM forum, and I believe it was by a male poster. It's unfortunate that we don't have access to those old postings.

Shack wrote:

Elsewhere, glad you are staying..guess I am the one who is the target of anger...sounds like years of anger..oh well.
Following are facts...not opinions.
2/2004
Maura Murray disappeared on 112, Woodsville, NH ("no proof of crime" ?) other than SP are conducting a "Criminal Investigation"..?
10/2005
Tom Conrad gunned down/murdered in his driveway. Pike, NH (conclusion..?)
4/2006
A Campton man will be arraigned for second-degree murder, charged with (stabbing) killing Jessie Hunter, 24, of Rumney, NH
2/2007
"Indelicato is charged with second-degree murder, and the prosecutor's complaint
charges he recklessly killed Powell in a manner that exhibited extreme indifference to
human life. Huntress said prosecutors can upgrade the charge if warranted."
Warren, NH
Intertwined: Death of a local female police officer, CB...(conclusion ?)
and the accident/murder of a local NH mother and child.(conclusion..?)
AND, Franconia,.Kenney/McKay/Floyd 5/2007 (conclusion..?)
P. Webb, Franconia and P. Clark, Benton.(conclusions...?)
These are all within a semi-circle East of CT.River, Haverhill area..within 20-25 miles.
The population of all these towns total around 5..maybe 6K?... rough guestimate.
(All in Grafton County) Add, registered sex offenders with differing counts..10-15..?
Add in occasional Meth labs/Arson...
How can anyone NOT think that this is unusual?...Small country towns..not City.
Sharon's older postings, in the first MMM Forum.was first mention of Atwood's humming the theme of "Twilight Zone", while she was talking to him.(about Maura's disappearance)
At the time of that writing, I had no idea of anything other than Maura. I was guilty of
my head in the sand. I can totally understand why some locals could/would be aggravated
with me or any other outsiders, interfering with their town(s) area(s) criminal problems.
All of the above are facts...it can't be "outsiders" to change it. It should be the voting citizens to demand of their chosen government(s) to "take care of business"...
All I want is "justice" and "case closed" for Maura...conclusion.
The term "Closure" is only appropriate for Maura's family.

What area doesn't have crime? Even small town Americana.

What does "AND, Franconia,.Kenney/McKay/Floyd 5/2007 (conclusion..?)" mean exactly?

What exactly does Kenney/McKay/Floyd have to do with Maura Murray?

yankee wrote:

<quoted text>What does "AND, Franconia,.Kenney/McKay/Floyd 5/2007 (conclusion..?)" mean exactly?
What exactly does Kenney/McKay/Floyd have to do with Maura Murray?

Just as importantly. There was a conclusion. Kenney illegally shot and killed McKay. Floyd shot and killed Kenney justifiably. Floyd has other dates with the courts for other alleged crimes. I have no problem with the conclusion in that case.

I am also trying to figure out if one of those references is to the woman found dead and ruled as a drowning death?

Bill

Shack wrote:

and the accident/murder of a local NH mother and child.(conclusion..?)

I didn't see the child listed in this one. Which case is this?

Bill

Yoda wrote:

[quote]No problem. I don't even know who sides with whom[/quote]
Clear, your mind must be if you are to discover the real villains behind the plot.
Grammer study, I must.

Actually, it's internet forum communication you need to study, Hayward. This one was at least funny, but some of the other ones are a little freaky and alarming to people. Just say stuff, ok? Please? For a minute there, I even liked Sock Puppet the first time he came out, because he SAID things.

There are enough riddles surrounding Maura's disappearance without consciously creating more.

Wowzer wrote:

<quoted text>
Paris I commend you for trying your best to keep peace. I think you are one of only a few that truly appreciates everyone's input and thinks outside of the small circle.
Unfortunately it was someone that is very active in the forum that seemed to get much pleasure out of insulting and calling names to the locals. Enough said about that as the person knows who she is and hopefully she will stop trying to chase away anyone that might be of some real help in finding out what happened to Maura. Her time would be better spent feeding her attack ducks.

Gee, that was subtle.

yankee wrote:

<quoted text>

What exactly does Kenney/McKay/Floyd have to do with Maura Murray?

I think the connection she was making here was simply geographical, yankee. That's the only firm connection that anyone knows of. Unless she was alluding to the fact that McKay was law enforcement, and there has been some discussion as to whether or not he was harrassing Kenney leading up to his murder.

I am NOT intending for us to get into that discussion in detail; there's another forum in these parts for that. I'm just trying to elucidate Shack's reasons for listing this. It was a crime, in that area, in which a law enforcement agent was directly involved.

FireCat wrote:

<quoted text>
It was a crime, in that area, in which a law enforcement agent was directly involved.

Yes, as a victim.

Shack wrote:

Elsewhere, glad you are staying..guess I am the one who is the target of anger...sounds like years of anger..oh well.
Following are facts...not opinions.
2/2004
Maura Murray disappeared on 112, Woodsville, NH ("no proof of crime" ?) other than SP are conducting a "Criminal Investigation"..?
10/2005
Tom Conrad gunned down/murdered in his driveway. Pike, NH (conclusion..?)
4/2006
A Campton man will be arraigned for second-degree murder, charged with (stabbing) killing Jessie Hunter, 24, of Rumney, NH
2/2007
"Indelicato is charged with second-degree murder, and the prosecutor's complaint
charges he recklessly killed Powell in a manner that exhibited extreme indifference to
human life. Huntress said prosecutors can upgrade the charge if warranted."
Warren, NH
Intertwined: Death of a local female police officer, CB...(conclusion ?)
and the accident/murder of a local NH mother and child.(conclusion..?)
AND, Franconia,.Kenney/McKay/Floyd 5/2007 (conclusion..?)
P. Webb, Franconia and P. Clark, Benton.(conclusions...?)
These are all within a semi-circle East of CT.River, Haverhill area..within 20-25 miles.
The population of all these towns total around 5..maybe 6K?... rough guestimate.
(All in Grafton County) Add, registered sex offenders with differing counts..10-15..?
Add in occasional Meth labs/Arson...
How can anyone NOT think that this is unusual?...Small country towns..not City.
Sharon's older postings, in the first MMM Forum.was first mention of Atwood's humming the theme of "Twilight Zone", while she was talking to him.(about Maura's disappearance)
At the time of that writing, I had no idea of anything other than Maura. I was guilty of
my head in the sand. I can totally understand why some locals could/would be aggravated
with me or any other outsiders, interfering with their town(s) area(s) criminal problems.
All of the above are facts...it can't be "outsiders" to change it. It should be the voting citizens to demand of their chosen government(s) to "take care of business"...
All I want is "justice" and "case closed" for Maura...conclusion.
The term "Closure" is only appropriate for Maura's family.

I don't feel anger towards you Shack. I do feel disgust and even sadness as you must be a very unhappy person to get so much pleasure out of all the horrible things YOU have said through the years about us locals.I won't even go into the things you have said because you know what they are and they fill several pages, yes pages!
Even though there's no proof a crime was even committed the locals in the area where Maura's car was found have been falsely and maliciously accused (by name) of either not telling the truth or having something to do with her disappearance.
You of all people should be ashamed of all the nasty names and terrible things you've said about our state, our people and our government. Umm, I think that's called slander/libel but I'm not an attorney so don't take my word for it.
It may be fun to you to add excitement and DRAMA to a forum but it can backfire when innocent people are hurt.

Good grief ..all I did was list "facts"..criminal activities....period..
Nothing profound...connection is "crime".

Here's a list of "suppositions". Suicide, ran away, hypothermia.
Blame the victim.

hi Shack thank you for listing the crimes take care philip

Hello all,

I shall be taking a temporary time-out awaiting the return of the true purpose of this forum:
Where is Maura Murray?

I am NOT, repeat not, taking sides here, but I´m utterly fed up with the constant mudslinging and attacks as of late.

Sorry!

Shack wrote:

Good grief ..all I did was list "facts"..criminal activities....period..
Nothing profound...connection is "crime".
Here's a list of "suppositions". Suicide, ran away, hypothermia.
Blame the victim.

Is there some reason you don't answer legitimate questions directed to you based upon your postings? I notice others sometimes answer in your stead. Sometimes there is no answer at all.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Wowzer,
Yup, you are right. The first time JMO went on the attack I stated I was leaving. Third time is a charm.
I started up a blog and thus far I've written about Tammy Belanger, Brianna Maitland, Maura, Christina Lunceford, Curtis Pishon, etc.
My mother was surprised to learn that there was a suspect in Tammy's dissappearance and that he admitted to what he did to fellow inmates. Tammy went missing about 8 miles from my home when I was in high school.
I believe Hiedi Dawn Wilbur, Audrey Groat, and Maura went missing not too far from your home.
I am somewhat amazed at how you've made yourself right at home on this forum. Lady Gray is a relative of Maura's.
I never once heard any of those disparaging remarks about the locals you mentioned in your post above to Anne. I was a member of MMM.com for quites some time and I never once read any of those things mentioned on her forum. I wouldn't associate with anyone would would say such things.
Could you please provide a link to at least one of those comments for confirmation?
You and JMO are doing a great job at making it appear that I'm the source of all of the negativity.
I'd also like to add that not too long ago Weeper mentioned that he is thankful to many of the locals whom have been nothing but supportive and helpful to Maura and her family.
The husband and wife comment was made in passing a number of years ago. Sorry, can't confirm.
You may want to take Whitewash/Photogirl's advice into consideration. If by chance you are stranded on the side of the road in your vehicle keep your doors locked until a uniformed officer in an officially marked vehicle arrives. Be more wary of your surroundings when out on the roadways while travelling alone.
Anne & Whiston,
Thanks so much for your kind words. That goes for Euro too.
Lurkers like Wowzer, JMO, and the caveman dude give me the creeps and unfortunately I don't have the patience of a saint.

According to the "missing" site Heidi Wilbur disappeared south of Rutland, approximately 100 miles away and Audrey Groat approximately 60-70 miles. A pretty good distance from my home.
Maura disappeared much closer to my home.
I am never wary when I travel alone. I take back roads all the time with no fear. When I had a flat a local stopped and fixed it for me and I had no fear of him being a serial killer. I would only hope that if I break down it is a local or one of our police officers that offers me a ride so I will be safe.
"Quote" I am somewhat amazed at how you've made yourself right at home on this forum. Lady Gray is a relative of Maura's."Quote"
What has that got to do with anything.It just proves my point that only a small circle of people are welcome.
I hate to burst your bubble but I've been posting here from the beginning of this forum. Since it is a PUBLIC forum "which I think some are not acknowledging" I think EVERYONE should feel right at home at voicing their opinions and feeling free to being a part of this forum if they choose to. That statement of yours in quotes speaks volumes and shouts negativity to anyone new wanting to help.
And you know that I can't give you links to any comments from the MMM forum since it is closed.Don't worry though as I think there just might be someone that has saved all the nasty disgusting things that were said on there.
"Quote" Lurkers like Wowzer, JMO, and the caveman dude give me the creeps "Quote".
You should be so proud of this statement. It does not surprise me though. Sigh.....