Where is MAURA MURRAY

Just Me, This is out of context for the discussion going on right now, but I just jumped on the computer for a second and wanted to tell you that I too have been living and breathing Maura's case for years. I figured you were friends with Beth when I saw where you came from. I'm so sorry for the loss of your precious friend. She seemed the most wonderful person devoting her life to helping others. And --- I always carefully read Paris's posts!

Lady Gray,
Thanks so much. It seems claysoup is trying to place fear into others about talking to the PI's and Maura's family, etc. That can only hamper things, not help.

There may be some bad characters in that area who do feel untouchable and it is those people that the PI was addressing. I can't understand why anyone would feel intimidated by his threatening people who may have harmed Maura. I want to know someone has the balls to go toe to toe w/ them. Mr. Kelly is an honorable man w/ a heart of gold.
Paris, justme it's so nice to see you posting again. I missed your eloquent words.
Claysoup, maybe you should look within yourself to see how and why your life was altered. Food for thought. I can't comprehend that it would be LE/ PI's and Maura's family, so on. Did all these people ruin you, or was it your reflection in the mirror?

just me wrote:

Nobody in that family wants to hide the truth so quit saying that. They deserve to find out the truth no matter what because their daughter went missing in perhaps your town and if anyone can help would you please help? Because what helps To find Maura may make life the way it ought to be for you and yours.

just me wrote:

Because what helps To find Maura may make life the way it ought to be for you and yours.

claysoup, anyone, do you know the name of the bus outfit that the SBD drove bus for? And now I question the Bradley Hill road as a drop off at one time, does anybody know? I'm not saying anyone was dropped there on Feb 9th, just wondering if it was ever a drop off point at all.

Thanks guys for kind words and yes, it hurts to be without Beth. She was humble and lovable.

May I ask claysoup, why you would choose a screen name that stands for a soul-less evil replica of yourself? I wouldn't choose Freddy Kruger for a screen name..........Ya think someone might look at you more closely? or is that what you want?

School records would show the name of the bus company, they are contracted out. Also keep in mind school bus drivers are subject to the same FBI, NCIC, and CORI background checks as teachers are.

Lower Slower Delaware wrote:

School records would show the name of the bus company, they are contracted out. Also keep in mind school bus drivers are subject to the same FBI, NCIC, and CORI background checks as teachers are.

First Student

School bus drivers are indeed subject to the same background checks as teachers. If there were anything in the past, it would have shown up by now.

just me wrote:

For those who don't know, the SBD was just getting home after dropping off the last student. Thanks

LAST student?

claysoup wrote:

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First Student
School bus drivers are indeed subject to the same background checks as teachers. If there were anything in the past, it would have shown up by now.

First student is the bus company? as far as background absolutely it would have. Wife and I both teach, that's how I knew.

Yes LSD but many of us are aware of what happened w/ a local teacher recently arrested. A background check doesn't help w/ those yet to be caught. FYI, many questions asked here are answered if you do a search for phrase on mmm site, you can usually find the info if you search for exact phrase. It's easier imo.

Lower Slower Delaware wrote:

School records would show the name of the bus company, they are contracted out. Also keep in mind school bus drivers are subject to the same FBI, NCIC, and CORI background checks as teachers are.

Well, the ski trip was for middle students and we had really good records on the first MM site.

I don't really think SBD was in on some /plan/ but he places himself right there with 'Maura' as soon as it 'happened' with the air bag story. Because he backed his bus in and stayed on the bus until the officer came to him, I wonder what he may have been up to. Doesn't seem like he was just coming home and stopping for a car "half in the road" and is it just me or does he say he went back to his house twice? I know he was inflated though with being a witness and he told all he was even a 'retired police officer' when that has been proven to be untrue. I once thought he could have thrown Maura into his bus using the Rooney method,(a soaked rag on the person's face).

Then SBD and CS,(the officer) went driving around looking for 'Maura' but in different vehicles. SBD got into his 4x4 and went down to French Pond Road.......can anybody think why he might go look there when he's wondering where to look for someone he just saw who is no longer there?

Lower Slower Delaware wrote:

<quoted text>First student is the bus company? as far as background absolutely it would have. Wife and I both teach, that's how I knew.

Meaning his background is clear.

Once again, how likely is it that a person his age with no prior history would abduct someone virutally in front of his own house, in full view of several neighbors' houses, even if it was dark, while driving a school bus? Yes, it's possible, but the main thing that leads anyone to think so is the fact that he appeared to be lying.

Unless someone else at the scene persuaded him to lie, he had no reason to lie. Therefore, if he lied, it was probably to cover up a role in the abduction. The only role he could possibly have played was to control the traffic in the area, even if for only a single minute or two.

If the bus was used to control traffic, then the timing was crucial. And since neither Maura's route nor her driving time could have been predicted enough for a school bus to be involved the way it may have been, then the abduction, if it occurred, probably was planned at least a day or two in advance and maybe long before that.

If so, then looking in new directions might be helpful, especially after 4 years. This does not represent THE solution, but certainly it's a scenario that should be looked at. If the suggestion, which is very realistic, has been met with such fierce opposition, then maybe that says something.

And just for the record, the motives of the Murray family are unimpeachable. The same cannot be said for everyone near them.

just me wrote:

their daughter went missing in perhaps your town and if anyone can help would you please help? Because what helps To find Maura may make life the way it ought to be for you and yours.

An encouraging thought.

Well, the other neighbors could not see so much with SBD bus in the way. They are the ones who saw car back up parellel to road......

There are alot of people commiting crimes for the first time. One thing I'd like to know more about is the accident where a female slides off the road, that happened just prior to Maura's car being found with a rag in the tailpipe in Woodsville. But we can't find that info online as far as I know.

I know people who drive those roads, they can be pretty lone routes and if you're seen driving through you can comunicate that with your CB/radio to another. We don't know when/if Maura stopped for gas/washroom/food and was followed randomly at that point either.

If you look most of the way up the corporate ladder, you will find a DoD contractor in MO.

just me wrote:

We don't know when/if Maura stopped for gas/washroom/food and was followed randomly at that point either.

Randomly followed by a school bus driver on his route? Either he's in or he's out.

Maybe LE immediately started asking him questions in such a way as to cause him, even if he was innocent, to panic and try, without thinking his substitute story through, to simply defend himself from the intimidating manner in which he was questioned to begin with.

The fact is, the only time-line available is more incoherent and confusing than any story told or believed to have been told by any POI. How can they criticize a doubtful story when they cannot supply a believable one themselves?

If they're confused, with the help of 20/20 hindsight, in constructing a clear, accurate, and useful time-line and set of references, how can SBD be attacked so freely?

The fact is, the only time-line available is far more incoherent and confusing than any story told or believed to have been told by any POI. How can they criticize a doubtful story when they cannot supply a believable one themselves?

If they're confused, even with the help of 20/20 hindsight, in constructing a clear, accurate, and useful time-line and set of references, how can SBD be attacked so freely?

The most important information made public by the MMM board so far is more puzzling and misleading than what some of those on the MMM board claim are the most important indications of a POI's guilt.

just me wrote:

Nobody in that family wants to hide the truth so quit saying that. They deserve to find out the truth no matter what because their daughter went missing in perhaps your town and if anyone can help would you please help? Because what helps To find Maura may make life the way it ought to be for you and yours.

True, no one in the family wants to hide the truth.