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Emily

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Oct 2, 2008
 
Unlikely a transfer and job granted by same company if there's a serious problem. Especially if the company had an office next to Kennedy.
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OT Sorry,

LVSNH, If you are still moderator, could you start or find the post for the Conrad murder for Pike. Thank You in advance.
Emily

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Oct 2, 2008
 
1st = sunset
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1st = EmCare = American Medical Response, aka American Medical Response Corp.- AMRC - as sometimes referred to, for example, by the Palm Springs Chamber of Commerce:

http://www.pschamber.org/directory/cw_maaa.ht...

Basically, all the same company, headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri and/or Naperville, Illinois.

Even if not technically the correct corporate name, if the Palm Springs Chamber of Commerce can make that mistake, so can LE.

Since there is located what amounts to a 1st/EmCare/AMRC office right next to the dorm, it might be worth going back to check out the so-called Red Cross phone call. The office is also located along the route she may have walked regularly to any off-campus quarters she may have occupied. Not implying anything wrong, just an observation.

What is more or less the same company seems to have been at both ends of the Monday trip. Pure coincidence? Certainly could be.


AMRC is not American Red Cross.
Shack

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The blood was found on carpet in the Chalet/Aframe on Valley Rd.
The blood was NOT found on clothes in a hamper.
The blood found in the Chalet/Aframe was on a carpet.

I do not have a cousin who lived in the Chalet/AFrame, on Valley Rd.
I do not have a cousin who ever lived in the Chalet/AFrame on Valley Rd.
I do have a cousin who WAS the Rental Agent of the Chalet/AFrame.

The above writing is True...Fact...We have so few Facts.
It is for those who can tell the difference between crap and truth.
Shack

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Oct 2, 2008
 
I don't know whose blood it was, that was found
on a carpet. I was never told whose blood it
was. Even if it was written here whose blood
it was, I would not believe it....because it wouldn't be information from a reliable source. Many variations of some Truths are not believable.(more steerage away from ...?)
I do not know....the truth.. as to who left
the blood ..the blood found ON carpet.
If it wasn't Maura, I don't care to know.
Shack

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PS for those who give a rodents rump...my computer
is giving me grief...so if I disappear from Topix
it isn't because of the nastiness or snide
remarks...although that would be reason enough.
I ignore all those who want to be mean. Just
as I do in my life.
I just will never understand why with the subject
matter as it is: how does that inflame some..? misdirected anger..? dunno..
good night....

“Honesty and justice for all”

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Fairhaven, MA

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gvmeabrk wrote:
OT Sorry,
LVSNH, If you are still moderator, could you start or find the post for the Conrad murder for Pike. Thank You in advance.
I am NOT a moderator.

What are you asking for?

I did a lot of searching on Google for Pike, NH & Conrad and found this: Monday Sep 8 -#4761
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/littleton-nh/... .

Is that what you are looking for?

I also found this: http://doj.nh.gov/publications/nreleases2005/...

and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

trish

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OH MY wrote:
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I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS OH YES BUT IT PLACES ME IN GRAVE DANGER!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell what you know, end this families agony. You can report anonymously.
gvmeabrk

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Oct 3, 2008
 
LvsNH

Sorry, thought you were the moderator. I thank you for your searches.
WHITE WASH

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Just because you say so does not make
something a FACT!
Now if we had some DNA TESTING then it
could BE AN ACTUAL FACT correct because
it is possible someone in the family
jumped the fence.
My point being I was told By a good source too!
You post things that YOU BELIEVE are FACT without the actual evidence to make them FACT!
1: a thing done: as aobsolete : feat b: crime <accessory after the fact> carchaic : action
2archaic : performance , doing
3: the quality of being actual : actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>
4 a: something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b: an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
5: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
Shack wrote:
The blood was found on carpet in the Chalet/Aframe on Valley Rd.
The blood was NOT found on clothes in a hamper.
The blood found in the Chalet/Aframe was on a carpet.
I do not have a cousin who lived in the Chalet/AFrame, on Valley Rd.
I do not have a cousin who ever lived in the Chalet/AFrame on Valley Rd.
I do have a cousin who WAS the Rental Agent of the Chalet/AFrame.
The above writing is True...Fact...We have so few Facts.
It is for those who can tell the difference between crap and truth.
WHITE WASH

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Those who live in glass houses shouldn't
cast the first stone and if you practiced what you preached it would
all be GOOD!
Shack wrote:
PS for those who give a rodents rump...my computer
is giving me grief...so if I disappear from Topix
it isn't because of the nastiness or snide
remarks...although that would be reason enough.
I ignore all those who want to be mean. Just
as I do in my life.
I just will never understand why with the subject
matter as it is: how does that inflame some..? misdirected anger..? dunno..
good night....

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Oct 3, 2008
 
gvmeabrk wrote:
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You stated in an above post that you also had a personal siting of Maura. Has that ever been discussed here or on MMM?
Hi gvemebrk, The person I was sure looked/was Maura was found to be someone else. I must say I understand your frustration though as it was months before I found out who she was, where she lived and her name. I have seen her again and noticed more differences. It was a shocking resemblence though. I hope you will find more about your siting in the store.
White Wash

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I present the first of many stones
casted as stated by Shack herself!

Heading back to square one as REQUIRED AND FORWARD
WITH FACTS that can STAND IN A COURT OF LAW!
Shack wrote:
I am from the Maura Murray Forum. On June 3rd, I tried to Post and my membership was seemingly deleted. I talked on the telephone
with another member who was also seemingly deleted. A few days later my lap top went into a coma mode. There were many incoming telephone
calls apprising me of the closing down of the Forum. Just last night, did my computer and I come back to the reality of a the Forum closure.
Hey MN lady...whatever you are calling yourself lately...here and "out there"...Nice to hear your voice. You know that I miss Beth too...Talk soon....Our Silkyboxer/Beth was one of the first members, and a major fearless contributor to
find the truth and justice. Sorry for the interruption folks....pretend this was a PM...I was never here....Attack ducks on Stand-by.
Maura Murray vanished 2/9/2004 after 7PM near the Swiftwater Covered Bridge on Tourist's National Registry on Route 112
Haverhill/Woodsville/Bath NH. We have not and will not forget that Maura Murray was alive before Swiftwater. Local Town and State Law Enforcement didn't do their duty in a timely fashion. I feel that if the MM Forum had not been so active, that it is possible that Maura's fate information would have just disappeared, as do some crimes. Out of sight, out of mind....blame the victim....As Beth said "can't see it from my front porch"..
I have had the same thoughts, theories and feelings since my beginnings of knowledge of Maura's disappearance.
As time went by, especially after the first MM Forum, there seemed to a silent syllabus of sorts to which we were not privy and that we
evidently were not following. Our thoughts, feelings, theories, questions were sometimes ignored. I can truly imagine and understand that our rhetoric was becoming tiresome to the moderators. Perhaps now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of ....
Perhaps with Topix, a combination of new and previous Posters will unlock some information about Maura's disappearance.
Because I was not able to Post in the last days of the Maura Forum, I choose now to say ..What a wonderful group of caring souls!
All members really had such good intentions in trying to help solve this crime and keep the news of injustice alive. Standing ovations!!
OH MY

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Shack wrote:
Elsewhere, glad you are staying..guess I am the one who is the target of anger...sounds like years of anger..oh well.
Following are facts...not opinions.
2/2004
Maura Murray disappeared on 112, Woodsville, NH ("no proof of crime" ?) other than SP are conducting a "Criminal Investigation"..?
10/2005
Tom Conrad gunned down/murdered in his driveway. Pike, NH (conclusion..?)
4/2006
A Campton man will be arraigned for second-degree murder, charged with (stabbing) killing Jessie Hunter, 24, of Rumney, NH
2/2007
"Indelicato is charged with second-degree murder, and the prosecutor's complaint
charges he recklessly killed Powell in a manner that exhibited extreme indifference to
human life. Huntress said prosecutors can upgrade the charge if warranted."
Warren, NH
Intertwined: Death of a local female police officer, CB...(conclusion ?)
and the accident/murder of a local NH mother and child.(conclusion..?)
AND, Franconia,.Kenney/McKay/Floyd 5/2007 (conclusion..?)
P. Webb, Franconia and P. Clark, Benton.(conclusions...?)
These are all within a semi-circle East of CT.River, Haverhill area..within 20-25 miles.
The population of all these towns total around 5..maybe 6K?... rough guestimate.
(All in Grafton County) Add, registered sex offenders with differing counts..10-15..?
Add in occasional Meth labs/Arson...
How can anyone NOT think that this is unusual?...Small country towns..not City.
Sharon's older postings, in the first MMM Forum.was first mention of Atwood's humming the theme of "Twilight Zone", while she was talking to him.(about Maura's disappearance)
At the time of that writing, I had no idea of anything other than Maura. I was guilty of
my head in the sand. I can totally understand why some locals could/would be aggravated
with me or any other outsiders, interfering with their town(s) area(s) criminal problems.
All of the above are facts...it can't be "outsiders" to change it. It should be the voting citizens to demand of their chosen government(s) to "take care of business"...
All I want is "justice" and "case closed" for Maura...conclusion.
The term "Closure" is only appropriate for Maura's family.
Thats why alot of people in Grafton Co. are keeping a loaded gun by thier front doorz, one under thier pillows, one on thier side or close by at all times so thier not the next person to get it. Friggin SCARY since the POLICE just write a report or screw up the crime scene after the fact your dead. If I lived in that area I would be armed at all times and if thats going to far just call me PARINOID. OK
GOD BLESS all the familes and people effeted by these horrible crimes. Happy Holidays to all who really care out there in this wacked out world we live in!
Maybe the IDIOT or IDIOTS commiting these acts of violence will be caught soon and the IDIOTS who have already been caught will get the death sentence but with such poor POLICE work I dought it.
OH MY

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I wonder if these types of crimes have been going on for many years in Grafton Co. and swept under the carpet or if this is new?
I try to live a simple life and mind my own affairs but when it seems that all people seem to talk about in that area and try to figure out when where and who did the crimes of this nature and why there are so many it really makes me wonder who is really behind the crimes but it also makes me wonder who is behind the the BADGES PROTECTING the average citizen and it upsets me to the point where I feel more CITIZEN WATCH GROUPS NEED TO BE STARTED!
What could possibly be creating so much violence in all walks of life with such a wide range of age groups is what I do not understand.
Hearing of such violence makes me want to get a degree in criminal science, although with the economy the way it is I can only imagine how much crime will go up in the future......SCARY HUH
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WHITE WASH wrote:
Just because you say so does not make
something a FACT!
Now if we had some DNA TESTING then it
could BE AN ACTUAL FACT correct because
it is possible someone in the family
jumped the fence.
My point being I was told By a good source too!
You post things that YOU BELIEVE are FACT without the actual evidence to make them FACT!
1: a thing done: as aobsolete : feat b: crime <accessory after the fact> carchaic : action
2archaic : performance , doing
3: the quality of being actual : actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>
4 a: something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b: an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
5: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
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White Wash, being told something by a good source does not make something fact.

Shack is in the post you reference referencing both things confirmed by Weeper (who, yes, I consider a good source, because HE HAS ACCESS TO EVIDENCE THAT WE DO NOT, by nature of his role in the investigation) and things that she knows to be fact. What would you like to see, a copy of a rental agreement, a family tree, and a blood test confirming that she and someone are actually relatives?

It has been REPORTED AS FACT by Weeper and many others that the BLOOD WAS FOUND ON A CARPET.

We all have the right to be a Doubting Thomas and ask to put our hands on the carpet sample and see it with our own eyes. But let's face it. That's neither practical nor useful. At some point, you have to accept things as fact that you yourself do not know.(like the earth being round. Unless you've seen it from space or physically been 'round it by sea, you're just assuming that based on other people's evidence.)

You've chosen to do that via this source....which you say is a good source....but how can you, honestly, expect use to believe you if you do not put that source forward, and his/her reasons for doing so?
OH MY

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BTW TROOPER TODD COHEN of Troop F fell asleep at the wheel of a Police Car in Jefferson N.H. a couple weeks ago and hit a Father and his Son on bicycles a couple weeks ago I believe killing the Father! What a horrible thing to happen and God Bless all affected by this accident.
Do people in this Forum believe he will be treated the same way as a normal man would be treated in court?
Sorry to get off the Subjet.
White Wash

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Evidence? What the carpet that was lost by the PI?
That nobody else can comfirm is that what evidence
is called these days?
The Evidence Weeper says they don't want or won't tamper with?
What we have is Weeper's guidance and advise of his career zero Evidence since he would be required to turn that over and required NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT correct?
Why should we be forced fed SO CALLED FACTS when
there is NO PROOF making them FACTS?
Why don't you stay on the soap box for your FIT and Basher and yourself as you refuse to accept others FACT especially those who HAVE THE PAPERWORK to back them up!
GOOD DAY SIR!
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White Wash, being told something by a good source does not make something fact.
Shack is in the post you reference referencing both things confirmed by Weeper (who, yes, I consider a good source, because HE HAS ACCESS TO EVIDENCE THAT WE DO NOT, by nature of his role in the investigation) and things that she knows to be fact. What would you like to see, a copy of a rental agreement, a family tree, and a blood test confirming that she and someone are actually relatives?
It has been REPORTED AS FACT by Weeper and many others that the BLOOD WAS FOUND ON A CARPET.
We all have the right to be a Doubting Thomas and ask to put our hands on the carpet sample and see it with our own eyes. But let's face it. That's neither practical nor useful. At some point, you have to accept things as fact that you yourself do not know.(like the earth being round. Unless you've seen it from space or physically been 'round it by sea, you're just assuming that based on other people's evidence.)
You've chosen to do that via this source....which you say is a good source....but how can you, honestly, expect use to believe you if you do not put that source forward, and his/her reasons for doing so?
OH MY

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FireCat wrote:
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White Wash, being told something by a good source does not make something fact.
Shack is in the post you reference referencing both things confirmed by Weeper (who, yes, I consider a good source, because HE HAS ACCESS TO EVIDENCE THAT WE DO NOT, by nature of his role in the investigation) and things that she knows to be fact. What would you like to see, a copy of a rental agreement, a family tree, and a blood test confirming that she and someone are actually relatives?
It has been REPORTED AS FACT by Weeper and many others that the BLOOD WAS FOUND ON A CARPET.
We all have the right to be a Doubting Thomas and ask to put our hands on the carpet sample and see it with our own eyes. But let's face it. That's neither practical nor useful. At some point, you have to accept things as fact that you yourself do not know.(like the earth being round. Unless you've seen it from space or physically been 'round it by sea, you're just assuming that based on other people's evidence.)
You've chosen to do that via this source....which you say is a good source....but how can you, honestly, expect use to believe you if you do not put that source forward, and his/her reasons for doing so?
Not to be misleading about the carpet but I thought it was reported in the News Paper in the article Chief Williams wrote that the cadaver dogs hit on that closet where the bloody carpet came from in that A-Frame in Mountain Lakes! I am sure it was written somewhere about the carpet in a news paper I read, I maybe wrong.
(I DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS TRUE BUT THERE IS A STORY GOING AROUND THE NORTH COUNTRY THAT CHIEF WILLIAMS OF HPD HAS NOW GOTTEN 2 DWI'S IN LESS THAN A YEAR IN VERMONT AND STILL IS CHIEF OF HPD,,,I ASK THIS FORUM SHOULD HE BE DRIVING A CAR AFTER 2 DWI'S AND SHOULD HE STILL BE THE CHIEF OF HPD?) It seems to me he is recieving special treatment if this is true.
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