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Lady Gray
Austin, TX
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Part 2 of 2 THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE __________ Grafton No. 2006-113 FREDERICK J. MURRAY v. NEW HAMPSHIRE DIVISION OF STATE POLICE, SPECIAL INVESTIGATION UNIT & {text deleted} After the accident, and through approximately October 2005, the petitioner sent requests to numerous agencies, pursuant to New Hampshire’s Right-to-Know Law, RSA ch. 91-A (2001 & Supp. 2006), and the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C.§§ 552 (2002) et seq., requesting records and information pertaining to those agencies’ investigations into Maura’s disappearance. All of the investigatory material is now under the control of the attorney general’s office. With a single, minor exception, the attorney general’s office has denied all of the petitioner’s requests on the grounds that the records are exempt from disclosure because they are investigatory and because disclosure would constitute an unwarranted invasion of privacy. In December 2005, the petitioner filed a petition in superior court requesting, among other things, a declaration that the respondents’ denials violated the Right-to-Know Law and FOIA, and an injunction requiring the respondents to release the requested documents. {text deleted}
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gvmeabrk
Weare, NH
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Harry wrote: <quoted text>
Hmmm. Elsewherebriefly..I am surprised that you would state something cruel as this. MHO only. Just does not sound like you.
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gvmeabrk
Weare, NH
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oops will redo
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gvmeabrk
Weare, NH
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text> if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops... and divorced you. Hmmm. This is what I meant in the above post.
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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FROM: http://www.springerlink.com/content/d2gp64mlc... A total of 34 deployed driver and passenger airbags from altogether 20 vehicles after frontal collisions were investigated. In 80% of the airbags possible biological traces could be located with an alternative light source (ALS, Polilight) at a wavelength of 450–470 nm. These traces were swabbed, a part of them additionally cut and subjected to DNA analysis, which led to comparable SGMplus profiles in about 60%. In the 20% of the airbags on which no possible biological traces could be located, the whole surfaces were swabbed. In these cases subsequent DNA profiling mostly led to non-interpretable results. For the evaluation and interpretation of the data, buccal swab samples provided by drivers and co-drivers were analysed. The results and conclusions from DNA analyses and the declarations from the involved passengers were always concordant. Thus, molecular biological analysis of deployed airbags can help to determine the occupants positions within a vehicle (driver or passenger status) at the time of impact. __________ An 11 year old article, but also of interest: http://www.fdiai.org/Newsletter%20Archives/Ne... __________ FROM: http://www.genetictechnologies.com/srvs_frnzc... Certified accident reconstruction experts may add one more tool to their array of investigative techniques through the use of DNA. Genetic Technologies uses DNA analysis to determine the occupants' positions within a vehicle (driver or passenger status) at the time of impact. By analyzing a deployed driver's airbag, we can often make such a determination. The force behind a deploying airbag delivers the "punch" necessary to generate and deposit DNA samples on the airbag in the form of nasal mucus, saliva, and / or blood. The accident investigator merely needs to cut the stained section from the deployed airbag or seize the entire airbag and retain it as evidence until DNA analysis may be performed. Defense strategy in automobile accidents often revolves around the issue of who was operating the vehicle when the accident occurred. With DNA results to confirm the identity of the driver, the issue is no longer a point of contention.
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elsewherebriefly
Shallotte, NC
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gvmeabrk wrote: elsewherebriefly wrote:
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if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops... and divorced you.
Hmmm.
This is what I meant in the above post. Gvmeabrk, Alden edited that sentence. What I oringally wrote was, "If your wife really loved and trusted you she would not have believed the cops, if in fact they were lying, and divorced you. It was referencing this post in Alden's own words. "The FBI, New Hampshire State Police, Massachusetts State Police, and two local police departments were contacted several times as long as two years ago. Not long after my last attempt to contact LE last summer, I was roughed up by the police, who also fabricated an elaborate and vicious lie told to my wife in a successful effort to get her to divorce me. You think I'll be going back to LE any time soon? You think I don't know where the effort to silence me originates? Just for the record, it's not with any member of the Murray family, who are beyond reproach, nor with anyone they knew prior to Maura's disappearance. "
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. Very careful, indeed.
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. If...
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public?????
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. the dog?
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. You've mudslinged?
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elsewherebriefly
Shallotte, NC
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claysoup wrote: Active profiling as allowed by the Department of Justice includes covert alteration of the environment to observe the responses of a suspect. This can be used to check whether the suspect's behavior fits the profile…”
“Covert alteration of the environment” in the Maura Murray case goes like this:
They will send you emails containing so-called “connotatively neutral” words, just to check whether your behavior fits the profile. They will pretend to be a friendly or antagonistic poster on various discussion boards, just to check whether your behavior fits the profile. They will follow you night and day without concealing their surveillance, just to check whether your behavior fits the profile. They will persuade your friends, family, and neighbors to avoid speaking with you, just to check whether your behavior fits the profile. They will financially ruin you by sabotaging your successful and entirely legal business, just to check whether your behavior fits the profile. They will persuade your wife to divorce you and they will persuade your entire family, including your grandchildren, to suddenly move hundreds of miles away without saying goodbye by telling them that you are a child pornographer, just to check whether your behavior fits the profile. They will badger you endlessly, pushing you over the edge, just to check whether your behavior fits the profile. And when you finally commit suicide or go on a cop-killing spree, they will conclude that your behavior did indeed fit the profile.
Covert alteration of the environment often multiplies the tragedy of the original crime instead of solving it.
Just ask the family of the young man who was questioned viciously by members of the Massachusetts State Police Behavioral Science Unit about the disappearance of his friend, Molly Bish. Although he was entirely innocent, police suggested that if he did not confess he would be tried and convicted for her abduction and murder. He became so terrified that he killed himself.
If the Murray family does not want something like that to happen again, let them prove it by muzzling their attack dogs, ending their use of multiple phony poster ID’s, ending their absurd efforts at offender profiling, and severing any relationship with the wildly irresponsible and intimidating private investigators whose “volunteer” efforts only conceal the true origin of the crime, not solve it.
By the way, the former head of the MSP Behavioral Science Unit that drove that young man to suicide is now a PI in the Amherst/Northampton area. He has worked extensively with a partner in an Amherst law firm who represents two interesting people. One client is someone closely connected both to what seems to be the mystery gallery frequently referred to on the MMM board and to a militant anti-abortion group located next to the mystery gallery. The other client is an extremely wealthy person whose family’s business interests in the medical industry might benefit by the abduction of young female athlete/scholars like Molly Bish, Maura Murray, and Lindsey Ferguson. This second client is also a close friend of the owner of Mt. Stowe (800-GOSTOWE), a resort phoned by Maura Murray shortly before she disappeared – or by someone using her phone. This second client is also a friend of the head of the Randolph Foundation, which not long ago donated a large sum to the Randolph Mountain Club, of which Lt. John Scarinza is a leading member.
Potentially relevant relationships like these deserve as much scrutiny as any bus driver or construction worker. Maybe more. Pretty strong allegations Alden, don't you think?
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. Verbally attacked? God forbid!
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. the dog was buried?
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
The Murray family has gone out of their way to be careful about the information they have shared with the public, although they've been harrassed to death for it!!!!
The child porn didn't just download itself on your computer, if your wife really loved and trusted you she wouldn't have believed the cops (if in fact they were lying) and divorced you. Here in America you are innocent until proven guilty. You were given a fair trial and convicted!
No one asked you to go to the U-Mass campus and show pictures of Maura's vehicle to security. But yet and all you got all pissy when no one acknoweledged your efforts reminding us that you got booted off campus and lost your library/theatre priveleges. I am sure the U-Mass had a good reason to deliver up a restraining order. More than just trespassing I'm sure.
Gee, how did I learn all of this stuff about you? From you!
Dude, I came right out and told you where the dog was buried after you verbally attacked Helena and the MMM forum.
You've mudslinged the very foundation that is helping find Maura - The Molly Bish Foundation & the Volunteer SAR teams. You've also attacked Paris and rightfully scared the hell out of Quija.
Intersting how these types always turn it around and make themselves appear the victim. ...if your wife really loved and trusted you...
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Looking4AMoose
Woonsocket, RI
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whiston wrote: hi WhiteWash and all . idont know what was next to the gallery.Gary Lindsley reported that mrMurray was told by Kathleen Murray that Maura was missing .she called him from Mauras apartment according to his report .this came from a press conference that was held in Bethlehem NH, I think on feb 12 04 .if i remmmeber the article was published feb 13 .as i have said i think it is odd that mr Murray did not stop in amherst and check Mauras room.maybe Kathleen had already checked the room . i cannot believe that nobody had already called umass police or someone in the dorm to check the room.again we are back to the secret that is Mauras prior life.where did she work where did she have her clinicals.what was her class schedule.take care philip OK...so Kathleen was in the room first? or did Maura have an off campus apartment seperate from her dorm room? Hmm....wonder which report is correct---Kathleen in the room first or Billy and Fred in the room first..........
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Harry
Charleston, WV
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Where was the room key?
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FireCat
United States
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Wowzer wrote: <quoted text>
By steering someone in the direction of giving information they have that may be helpful in the investigation of Maura Murray to a PO box and witholding this information from the local LE is wrong and most likely even a crime.
IMO information and or evidence should NOT be going to the family and friends but ONLY to LE. Wowzer, do you know who owns that PO Box? You don't know that info is going to "family and friends". It could well be going to the investigators from the Molly Bish Foundation. Or the SP or the FBI, via the owners of that PO Box. And frankly, can you blame Fred for not wanting any helpful info to go into the sinkhole of information that is his daughter's file at HPD?
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FireCat
United States
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White Wash wrote: Lady Gray since you are the family spokes person and seem to have so much information.
My question is this was the inventory listed as
sports bra? Or UNDERWEAR? UNDERGARMENS?
What exactly was the termnology used on the inventory list?
<quoted text> If you read the post after that closely, you'll see she corrected herself immediately, and that sports bras for running and regular bras were both found, but not drawers.
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Shack
Brighton, MA
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Looking4...check out Lady Gray's Post #7086
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