Where is MAURA MURRAY

Just curious. Why would a detective investigate a disappearance when he has had close ties, prior to the disappearance, with those who may have made the disappearance possible? With some who were Key players in the Rowland corruption scandal?

Shack wrote:

I stay and ignore all anger directed at me because I remember why I started.

Shack wrote:

These nasty ones should have their own child missing...just maybe for a few hours...

They should? Is this why you started? Who are these nasty ones?

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Just for the record, I definately do not agree with anything White Wash has ever said about Shack and us old timers been dealing with it for years now.
I really wish she'd knock it off but thankfully Shack has alwayas handled herself with class and grace.
More than I can say about myself......lol.

Class and grace?

the southern avenger wrote:

"I haven't heard, at least lately, of one single person who ever actually knew Maura Murray in a regular, everyday sense."
What exactly do you have to contribute West Virginia in all your forms?
Money, time, info?
proof?
all I can see is that you know how to copy and paste information in an attempt-- all beit succesful one to dominate and difuse an info chain.
we are like bloodhounds, if youre intersted in the result, let dogs do the work. If you have a friendship with the family, let it be known. but If you keep adding all this bs... I mean common what do you got? nothing, ya got nothing.
When will there be a conference (private meeting) of sympathetic parties to hash all this out? Should one rely on NH alone to produce their harshest witness?
West Virginia, tangential thinking works except when it doesn't. you should understand that.

Gee, is the tone of this board going down hill just a wee bit?

An info chain? You mean a dis-info chain. A propaganda machine.

Come on, yourself. It was your little band that put Regan in Saratoga Springs.

How many posters about Maura Murray's disappearance have been put up around Amherst?

Harry wrote:

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Gee, is the tone of this board going down hill just a wee bit?
An info chain? You mean a dis-info chain. A propaganda machine.
Come on, yourself. It was your little band that put Regan in Saratoga Springs.

Can you say obstruction of Justice boys and girls?

Hello all,

While I don´t discount any reasonable scenarios, I´m currently inclined to think that Maura may well have had a "secret" boyfriend in the Amherst, MA, area, and that this possible boyfriend of hers may also have been responsible for hitting Petrit Vasi in Amherst while driving Maura´s Saturn.
I think it possible that Maura and a "secret" boyfriend quite conceivably might have decided to do away with the Saturn somewhere in the White Mountains of NH, while at the same possibly faking Maura´s suicide in that very area.
If a "secret" boyfriend of Maura´s had been driving her Saturn (or rather her father´s Saturn) while in an inebriated state, the legal consequences would have been very considerable, even without Mr Vasi dying from the injuries sustained in the hit-and-run.
For quite some time Mr Vasi was hovering between life and death, so the outcome might easily have become even more devestating than was now the case.
I actually believe that it is far from inconceivable that Maura may well be living under an assumed name somewhere in the sparsely populated areas of northern VT, ME or NH, or even in the equally sparsely populated parts of southern Quebec, Canada.
And for what it´s worth I still think that the mysterious "Raykel" seen in the Barton, VT, church on Father´s Day 2005 may well in fact have been a sighting of the real Maura.

Since Shakespeare is in such fashion...

Soft you! a word or two before you go.
I have done the state some service, and they know't.
No more of that. I pray you, in your letters,
When you shall these unlucky deeds relate,
Speak of me as I am. Nothing extenuate,
Nor set down aught in malice. Then must you speak
Of one that loved not wisely, but too well;
Of one not easily jealous, but, being wrought,
Perplexed in the extreme; of one whose hand,
Like the base Judean, threw a pearl away
Richer than all his tribe; of one whose subdued eyes,
Albeit unused to the melting mood,
Drop tears as fast the Arabian trees
Their med'cinable gum. Set you down this.
And say that besides that in Aleppo once,
Where a malignant and turbaned Turk
Beat a Venetian and traduced the state,
I took by th' throat the circumcised dog
And smote him - thus.

"I'd also like to add that although I may not agree with White Wash all of the time the majority of what she presents on this forum is factual.
"She recently posted that the Bronco was re-acquired after it was sold at auction and processed by LE. It was obviously cleared."

Interesting. So elsewhere, you are now agreeing with White Wash? Quite a turn-around. Perhaps it's just me, but anyone who spends pages and pages SCREAMING at people with whom she disagrees and repeatedly telling them to shut up has got issues beyond the obvious ones of credibility and balance.

But as regards facts and what is "factual" - it might be worth considering whether there's any third party, independent confirmation of what White Wash tells us as "fact."
For example, WW posting that the Bronco was "re-acquired" (by whom, from whom?) is not a fact unless it can be proven by other means than WW saying so. WW's account by no means tell us as a fact that the Bronco was "obviously cleared."

Correct me if I'm mistaken, anyone who is REALLY in LE, but for a vehicle to be "cleared" in an investigation, there needs to be an official record somewhere that the vehicle was inspected (how?) and what was or wasn't found, and why the vehicle was "cleared" if it was felt necessary to investigate it in the first place.
I am not saying that we (the general public) would necessarily be party to that information in an ongoing investigation.
I'm saying that WW stating it as fact doesn't make it fact, and if she knows it for a fact and it is not information intended to be released to the public, she's got absolutely no business doing so.

IS "WW" a journalist? Is she calling herself a journalist in order to validate some particular point of view or agenda? I'm not even sure. She certainly hasn't made it clear.

Yes, I'm prepared for the usual spate of rage, vitriol and condemnation, but I really could care less.
I guess I'm just set off, again, by the usual, and apparently growing chorus, of "it's all Maura's fault, Grafton County is PERFIKT, LE has done everything they can, Maura's sekrit boyfriend in Amherst really hit Vasi with the Saturn and he and Maura brought it to NH to ditch it..."

The same folks who are loudest with the choruses of "there's NO evidence of foul play!!!"
okey dokey...as if there's "evidence" that Maura had a sekrit boyfreind, yadda yadda yadda.

I'm surely not seeing many people here anymore who have the slightest interest in finding Maura - lots of interest in bullshitting, protecting the sacred name of Grafton County and the infallibility of NHLE.

Er "southern avenger" are you actually Chris King? It's one thing to play your game in the threads that specifically pertain to you, but quite another to come to a forum which is not about you and pull the same tactics.
If you're not CK, my sincere apologies. If you are, say so.

the southern avenger wrote:

How much money are you willing to contribute to the recovery of Maura Murray? a question of intent, may I hypothosize you have no connection to maura's cause. for example do you think, irrespective of your own financial considerations, your participation is needed? The reason i put it like this, is because your here for damage control, and the truth is out. your ideas of Eric Rudolph only apply to people like Mr. Floyd who was apparently AWOL twice and has an affinity for felonies. you run with the bulls, your gonna get horns, beware. WE DON'T KNOW YOU, WV is the Home of the FBI. What is your purpose?

Eurobserver wrote:

Hello all,
While I don´t discount any reasonable scenarios, I´m currently inclined to think that Maura may well have had a "secret" boyfriend in the Amherst, MA, area, and that this possible boyfriend of hers may also have been responsible for hitting Petrit Vasi in Amherst while driving Maura´s Saturn.
I think it possible that Maura and a "secret" boyfriend quite conceivably might have decided to do away with the Saturn somewhere in the White Mountains of NH, while at the same possibly faking Maura´s suicide in that very area.
If a "secret" boyfriend of Maura´s had been driving her Saturn (or rather her father´s Saturn) while in an inebriated state, the legal consequences would have been very considerable, even without Mr Vasi dying from the injuries sustained in the hit-and-run.
For quite some time Mr Vasi was hovering between life and death, so the outcome might easily have become even more devestating than was now the case.
I actually believe that it is far from inconceivable that Maura may well be living under an assumed name somewhere in the sparsely populated areas of northern VT, ME or NH, or even in the equally sparsely populated parts of southern Quebec, Canada.
And for what it´s worth I still think that the mysterious "Raykel" seen in the Barton, VT, church on Father´s Day 2005 may well in fact have been a sighting of the real Maura.

Fascinating storyline...for a mystery novel...especially with no concrete evidence of a "secret boyfriend".

One could hardly draw these conclusions without knowing Maura Murray's personality, character, habits and personal life circumstances prior to her disappearance.

I hope her father never reads this site.

Hopefully, Fred Murray

Esteemed fellow posters,

Judging by the comments of JMO it would seem that only a certain kind of approved comments and scenarious are deemed acceptable on this public forum. What a mockery of free speech!
A free and open discussion is being discouraged and castigated in a way which I find surprising and worrisome, to put things mildly.
No wonder that we don´t seem to be making much headway here when all suggestions which are not approved of in certain quarters are being castigated as evil-minded.
I happen to think it quite possible, even likely, that Maura may well be alive.
Does that make me such a monster?
I beg to differ.
It sometimes seems to me as if certain people here would rather have Maura dead by foul play than her being alive under a new and assumed identity.
That I find truly upsetting.

Harry wrote:

How many posters about Maura Murray's disappearance have been put up around Amherst?

I don't have a number but yes there have been posters put in Amherst. Thank you Ben for earth google.

Euro, it didn't sound so simple or harmless as "being alive under a new and assumed identity" - you re taking no evidence of any kind, and inventing a scenario in which she was "cheating" on her boyfriend with a "sekrit boyfriend" - already an unsupportable assumption. You don't leave it there, but add that the supposed shadow boyfriend took her car, hit Vasi, concocted a scheme with Maura (who you apparently believe was happy to go along with this crime) to hide the crime and ditch the vehicle AND to frame the locals in NH for the crime!

There is no, zero, nada, nonexistent evidence for one single piece of this scenario.

I would say that one could look at the Saturn and say that she may have taken off for reasons unknown, but that's a very long way from knowingly participating in another person's crime and vanishing without ever again contacting friends or family.

You are entitled as are any of us to free speech, but that does not include the right to be free from criticism for slandering Maura without a shred of evidence.

Harry wrote:

How many posters about Maura Murray's disappearance have been put up around Amherst?

Here's a link to a site you can print posters from.
http://www.projectjason.org/aan/AAN_MauraMurr...

Eurobserver wrote:

Esteemed fellow posters,
Judging by the comments of JMO it would seem that only a certain kind of approved comments and scenarious are deemed acceptable on this public forum. What a mockery of free speech!
A free and open discussion is being discouraged and castigated in a way which I find surprising and worrisome, to put things mildly.
No wonder that we don´t seem to be making much headway here when all suggestions which are not approved of in certain quarters are being castigated as evil-minded.
I happen to think it quite possible, even likely, that Maura may well be alive.
Does that make me such a monster?
I beg to differ.
It sometimes seems to me as if certain people here would rather have Maura dead by foul play than her being alive under a new and assumed identity.
That I find truly upsetting.

I have to agree with JMO. I have no clue as to who JMO is but like you JMO has every right to post his/her opinion. It appears to me that you are trying to discourage a free open discussion because JMO's thoughts are not the same as yours. I believe Maura met up with foul play as well as others do. but does that mean we want her dead NO!!. We would all like to find Maura well and alive. But sadly to say the out come for Maura being alive does not look to promising.

If you want to refresh your memories on the details of past information, this is a very good site to get it from:

http://www.projectjason.org/forums/index.php...

There are 6 pages of information and links.

Esteemed fellow posters,

As a free-flowing debate is apparently quite out of the question on this board I hereby take my leave and wish you all the best.
Goodbye.

Sincerely,
Euro

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I don't have a number but yes there have been posters put in Amherst. Thank you Ben for earth google.

You are welcome.:) I am thankful for them for unrelated - but I'll stop myself from telling the unrelated story.

citigirl and Sophie Bean, and others...
I have previously argued this point about a "secret boyfriend" as being merely supposition. Without having a proven basis in fact, the scenario Euro describes seems preposterous TO ME.

I am not right, and Euro is not wrong.
Anyone may freely choose to believe what they wish. If anyone knew exactly where to look for Maura she would be found by now.

It seems unfair, however, to attribute negative intentions to Maura, a victim, without corraboration of facts to support such a theory.

There are people in the "body drug" and body building business in the Amherst/Northampton area, and from Connecticut, who seem to have an unusually keen interest in the disappearance of Maura Murray. But it sure does not appear to be a healthy interest.

Anyone who thinks Maura Murray is still alive and possibly living in Canada, at least part-time, should look for her in the Montreal area, specifically the suburb of Brossard. But personally I feel this is very unlikely. Can't hurt, though, if you're really dedicated to this idea. If you really think it's possible, then go for it. Try looking at the health clubs, gyms, health food stores, etc.

Just because she may have spent most or all of her roughly two weeks of nights off-campus does not mean she had a secret boyfriend. Or girlfriend. It may simply mean that she was sleeping or constantly crashing somewhere other than at her assigned dormitory room. Which would not exactly be a unique circumstance in the life of a college student.