Where is MAURA MURRAY

dawn wrote:

WTF - I work for the phone company and a local call can be traced. All calls go through the central office. Even if in the same building unless you are on VOIP which I highly doubt they had back then

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Mason wrote:

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I'm not certain about this, but I'm inclined to believe that the caller may have been a passenger in the car Maura was driving who agreed to find out as much information as she could about the condition of the victim and call Maura with an update. The friend's information, such as it was, probably confirmed Maura's worst fears. It's difficult to get information on the condition of a patient, given the strict patient confidentiality rules under HIPPA. I know some of the posters on this site are nurses and I will defer to them to address that issue.
Two other reasons why I believe the caller may have been a friend are (1) the caller knew where to reach her, and (2) Maura didn't seem to be fearful of being attacked by anyone. She was in a hurry to get out of town but not desperately so or she would have been on the road long before 4 or 4:30 Monday afternoon. She delayed her departure to take care of some business and I think she trusted her friend not to snitch her off to the cops.
Mr. Vasi was alone I think because no one ever stepped forward and said they were with him and he doesn't recall anything. My guess is he looked directly at Maura an instant before the impact and she was afraid he would identify her when he regained consciousness.
My theory may be hogwash though because the dent in the front left side of her vehicle doesn't appear to have been caused by striking a human body. Imagine her panic on Sunday when her father was trying to be nice her and took her shopping to find a car to replace the beater. Instead of making her feel better, it would have freaked her out because I'm sure he told her he was going to trade it in for whatever discount the dealer would agree to give. Meanwhile, she's starring in a Cohen Brothers movie thinking about the dent and how she's going to explain it to daddy after running his new Toyota into guardrail. Well, I just kinda ran over this guy, dad. Situation four alarm fire. Watch daddy turn into a suddenly punctured balloon flying all over the lot screaming swear words he'd long forgotten that he knew.

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dawn wrote:

anyone consider this has to do with westpoint ? the same year is when female cadet's filed charges against the male cadets. Took months of investigating - it came out Nov 04. Just a thought - we don't know if she is the one that packed her belongings and that would be a disturbing call for sure

White Wash wrote:

So you measured where the damage was to the
that of height of balls/hitches? I found that
to be very helpful.
So how do you explain the photograph LE has
of tire track into the tree from that night?
Fred never saw the car the weekend he was there so
do we really know what shape the car really was in
prior to the accident?
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WTF-the-original wrote:

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You are telling me you know for sure that in 2004 a three (or four) number call would go through the central switching office?
I am also farily certain that it wouldn't be VoIP.
Bill

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Mason wrote:

And one more point. Why would Maura take her birth control pills with her on the trip north if she drove up there to kill herself?

White Wash wrote:

Nothing is free I can not image that
phone isn't being billed!
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White Wash wrote:

According to family there where only 5 pills missing it was the 9th when she went missing
what a 4 day lag?
If she returned the scrubs/clothes they where
clean so somewhere in this time she did laundry!
Whiston where is the laundry in Maura's dorm?
Thanks!
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Mason wrote:

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FYI: The turn at the Weathered Barn is a 90 degree left turn that she negotiated successfully. The accident happened approximately 500 feet farther down the road in in the middle of a long stretch of road that is straight.
Sometime yesterday, I came across a link in one of the posts and clicked on it to see 3 Google Earth images and a chart prepared by Silky Boxer showing 2 locations on the 112 where guardrails were knocked down during the early evening hours on Feb 9th. One is west of the convenience store and the other is east of the scene of the accident. A news photographer named Beth supposedly heard about both accidents over a scanner, so she grabbed her camera and headed out to take pictures. If Maura was in an accident on the 112 before the accident just past the Weathered Barn, she must have collided with the guardrail that's west of the convenience store.
Beth didn't see a vehicle at either scene. Looks like some folks may have been out playing bumper cars with the guardrails that night. I don't know which side of the road that guardrail is located. If the damage to the driver's side of the front end of Maura's vehicle was caused by that collision, she would have to have swerved across the oncoming lane to hit it. Since it would not have been a glancing blow, the airbags probably would have deployed at that site. Obviously, her car still would have been driveable so she would have headed on down the road without waiting for help to show up.
It would help us out a great deal if the investigators would share the info they got from an accident reconstruction expert, wouldn't it?

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Wait a minute. I thought ya'll live free or die up there. Damn! I was all packed and ready to move. My final illusion, busted.
I need a drink, seriously.

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Mason wrote:

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Just curious, but why did they think it was their business to check that out. It would never occur to me to count my daughter's birth control pills.
What's up with that?

WTF-the-original wrote:

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In my scenario she did not negotiate it successfully. I’ll try to explain this again. As she rounded the left hand turn her rear wheels broke loose causing a condition called oversteer having the rear of the car swing out to the right. To correct that you would turn the steering wheel to the right. If you over correct then the rear end now swings even wider to the left now facing you into the snowbank/trees farther down the road with momentum spinning the car clockwise. If enough time elapses you will eventually make contact with the snowbank/trees and may actually contact the left front of the vehicle at which point the car pivots (still clockwise rotation) and starts heading backwards winding up with the rear of the car in the snowbank in the eastbound lane facing westbound.
Another FYI. Check some of my old posts under WTF. I have been involved with this on the MMM site since 2005.
As far as the accident reconstructionists. I have heard nothing about them, their qualifications and how they did their exam. I would be leery of anyone that would make an “expert” interpretation based solely on the photos. It has never been made clear if they ever actually examined the car.
Bill

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Mason wrote:

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Doesn't speed affect the analysis? Her car wound up 100 feet past the blue ribbon tree and, according to the Uniform Accident Report the road was dry and from another source the temperature was high 20s or low 30s. Also, I believe the snow was piled pretty high alongside the road, so some of the time, her wheels would have been on dry pavement.