Where is MAURA MURRAY

Question for those with notes or a memory.
Regarding the "directions" found in the car..
Some, or one, was a print out.
Where was the destination of the hand written
directions?

The RED TRUCK is of big interest to me, especially if it was from Mass. This projects a whole new scenario.

Lady Gray wrote:

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Thank you, Wowzer, for your words. They're helpful.
I'll agree that a BOLO to Fire could provide results due to the units out on the road.
Why do you think they didn't issue it to LE in addition to Fire? Being from the area, I know you are familiar with how things transpire; do you have an opinion?

Lady Gray how do you know the BOLO was specifically for just the FD?
To be honest any actual BOLO I've ever heard come over the scanner went to all LE. I can't say I've ever heard one go just to the Fire Dept. Could it be that the FD was asked by the officer on the scene to BOLO for someone walking since they were heading that way?
I can't imagine that the dispatcher that issues the BOLO on the air per request of the officer would say it was specifically for the FD.
I wonder if an actual BOLO which is aired by the dispatcher and goes to all LE and a request by the officer at scene for the FD to BOLO for someone walking is getting confused.

Anne wrote:

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Thank you for continually questioning all information in this case, as I know we all want as few facts available to surface and be correct. It is true that a bol was issued as I heard it within the scanner chatter. Female left in private vehicle and he would check at Cottage.

If "he" stated as you say that he was going to check at Cottage and she left in a private vehicle then it sounds to me that it was the officer that asked the FD to BOLO. Is this correct Anne?
It just doesn't seem possible that an actual BOLO that is requested by LE and put on the air by the dispatcher would go to just FD. I've never heard that done before.

This is directly from the GCSD log....This is at approx. 7:45 PM.

"H2 request all fire units BOL for a female about 5' 7" on foot, victim of crash"

The next BOl was put out on 02/10/2004 at 12:21 PM. It was requested by Byron Charles of the Haverhill PD via phone call.

" Needs BOL on Maura Murray, 1982/05/04. Apparently this ind. was involved in a motor veh. acc. yesterday in Haverhill. Upon officers arrival, found the car, no driver with a rag stuffed in the tailpipe. waiting on description of individual."

" H6- black hair past shoulder length, wearing a dark coat, about 5' 5", 120 lbs. Last seen in the Wild Ammonusuc rd. area "

" BOL put out at 12:21 on Grafton A, Haverhill, Littleton, and Lisbon locals "

I have read many posts about this red truck. Could someone please clarify who saw this truck and when it was seen? I also think this could be very important information to this investigation.

Cecil Smith at scene for 1 hr. 40 min.

FD at scene for 1 hr. 4 min.

EMS at scene for 6 min.

Why was EMS released from scene within 6 min.? At this point Smith had only 10 min. to access the situation, even though Maura was not at the car, she was somewhere possibly in the cold 9 degrees at 7 or 7:30 PM on a dark Feb. night. I find it hard to believe you would send away EMS so quickly when it is possible Maura could have been found in the area in the next few minutes. A very odd decision in my opinion.

When I was in LE here in NH, whenever a call was placed to LE about an acc. FD and EMS are called out routinely, they show up no matter what. In my experience I can never remember FD or EMS being turned back from an acc. scene.

Lots of great comments recently...I have been thinking about the scenario recently that possibly she was mentally ill and managed to get away, not necessarily because I think definitely that this is what happened, but just as one avenue to explore.

To me it is like we are jointly assembling a big giant puzzle. Some are working on one area, some on another, and hopefully all the pieces will eventually fit together.

So for the theory that she got away. My thinking is that she may have found a situation to support herself that was very informal, like a little old lady needing help around the house and some care, and in exchange Maura lives there. No certification or drivers license necessary. It wouldn't have been hard for her to get to, say, California. I live in Seattle and I had never heard of Maura until I saw the article on CNN, so I think it's safe to say that she could live somewhere and not be bothered. Also, there is nothing to say that, if she is alive, that she is staying in one place. If the sitings in the NH/VT area are correct, it does not necessarily mean that she was living in the area. The sitings seem to be in the summer, so she could have just been returning to the area.

Did Maura speak any foreign languages? Had she ever been out of the country? I'm wondering where she may have gone if she left the country. Just a guess but I'm thinking Canada maybe, probably not Mexico.

I was looking on a map of the area and trying to figure out what she could have accomplished that night. Let's say the CW siting is correct and she was traveling east on 112. Being a runner I can say that even if it is cold out, if you are running you probably will not feel cold unless/until you stop. How far could she have run? I'm thinking that if she runs 5 miles a day, she could probably have gone at least 10 before she has to walk. Of course she does have that backpack, and may have been drinking, which slows her down a little. How far does she have to travel before she gets somewhere where there are enough people that she is relatively anonymous? Somewhere where she can hop a bus?

Unfortunately, even if it is determined that she was mentally ill, I think posters are correct in that she may have met with the wrong person in her vulnerable state. But I think there is some chance that she is alive.

Anyone know if Maura was familiar with the area that she was in? Would she have known where she would get to if she continued walking East on 112?

Here is a link to the Acc. report from Feb. 9th. 2004 along with pix of the car.

http://images.google.com/imgres...

Mason....

You make many fine points, I wish we could talk more privately....

Detective Columbo's assessment seems to be the most plausible. The damage to her car is NOT consistent with her car hitting a tree, and there are no marks on any of the trees at the scene of the accident that would indicate that a car had hit them. The damage on her car seems as though the car in front of her may have abruptly stopped (intentionally), let Maura rear-end them, then they sped away (consistent with the "bump and acceleration" sound heard by the Westman's) and waited a few minutes from a spot where they could view everything. After the school bus left the scene, they came back and abducted her. And they could have had it planned for a while as they were in front of her.

With all due respect to all theories, the theory that she was emotionally disturbed and/or mentally unstable at the time is just seems incredibly far-fetched for a 21-year-old UMass student. There is very weak evidence indicating that she was going through any level of extreme distress. People seem to be attempting to make correlations that just aren't there or aren't rational.

Det. Columbo knows more about the details of this case than virtually every single person on this forum knows, and his theory that she was abducted makes more sense than any other possible scenario. Young, engaged, intelligent female college women with promising futures don't intentionally crash their cars and run off to live some secret life. Especially this woman. Every logical assessment points to an abduction.

Det. Columbo, if there's anything that I, or anyone else in this forum, can do to help you, please let me know.

Det. Columbo,

Since her keys and cell phone were missing, it seems as she took them along with her (unless they were stolen by her possible abductors). If she did in fact take her keys and cell phone with her, wouldn't it make sense that she was coerced into getting into a car with someone as opposed to her being snatched from her car? What is your theory on her missing possessions?

I think she did gather her stuff she needed and was about to leave the area when she was abducted. She took the things most important, her phone and her keys to her only possession, wrecked or not.

If she was fleeing the scene on foot, the rest of the stuff she left behind would be too heavy and cumbersome. It would slow her down and she knew this for certain.

pansie wrote:

Lots of great comments recently...I have been thinking about the scenario recently that possibly she was mentally ill and managed to get away, not necessarily because I think definitely that this is what happened, but just as one avenue to explore.
To me it is like we are jointly assembling a big giant puzzle. Some are working on one area, some on another, and hopefully all the pieces will eventually fit together.
So for the theory that she got away. My thinking is that she may have found a situation to support herself that was very informal, like a little old lady needing help around the house and some care, and in exchange Maura lives there. No certification or drivers license necessary. It wouldn't have been hard for her to get to, say, California. I live in Seattle and I had never heard of Maura until I saw the article on CNN, so I think it's safe to say that she could live somewhere and not be bothered. Also, there is nothing to say that, if she is alive, that she is staying in one place. If the sitings in the NH/VT area are correct, it does not necessarily mean that she was living in the area. The sitings seem to be in the summer, so she could have just been returning to the area.
Did Maura speak any foreign languages? Had she ever been out of the country? I'm wondering where she may have gone if she left the country. Just a guess but I'm thinking Canada maybe, probably not Mexico.
I was looking on a map of the area and trying to figure out what she could have accomplished that night. Let's say the CW siting is correct and she was traveling east on 112. Being a runner I can say that even if it is cold out, if you are running you probably will not feel cold unless/until you stop. How far could she have run? I'm thinking that if she runs 5 miles a day, she could probably have gone at least 10 before she has to walk. Of course she does have that backpack, and may have been drinking, which slows her down a little. How far does she have to travel before she gets somewhere where there are enough people that she is relatively anonymous? Somewhere where she can hop a bus?
Unfortunately, even if it is determined that she was mentally ill, I think posters are correct in that she may have met with the wrong person in her vulnerable state. But I think there is some chance that she is alive.
Anyone know if Maura was familiar with the area that she was in? Would she have known where she would get to if she continued walking East on 112?

Hello Pansie,

Seemingly there are only you and me on this forum who currently seriously consider that Maura may well have been able to start a new life somewhere else in the United States or in Canada.
This theory is in my opinion just as possible and viable as most other theories on this board, IMHO.

Detective Columbo wrote:

If she was fleeing the scene on foot, the rest of the stuff she left behind would be too heavy and cumbersome. It would slow her down and she knew this for certain.

So do you think she fled on foot -- or was abducted? I would think that if abducted, she willingly got in the car accepting a ride, seeing as she took her bag and keys, and the doors were locked. But who knows.

Detective Columbo wrote:

If she was fleeing the scene on foot, the rest of the stuff she left behind would be too heavy and cumbersome. It would slow her down and she knew this for certain.

Brings me back to the red pick up truck being involved

Someone made mention of using the Internet to display photos of Maura to help the cause. I thought at first the Poster was being facetious.
There are hundreds of Internet sites/photos about Maura. Just casual searching, there are over 50 pages (10 sites per page)

Scrolling down...I saw the words "Cold Case"..!
http://www.bittenandbound.com/2008/11/25/maur...

Have to admit that I kinda did a shivery gasp when I read the words "Cold Case"....The words I do not want to ever read is "Age Progression".

Det.C..I know you have been involved with this since day 1.
I have always believed that she gathered a few things and go into the wrong vehicle...with words of coming back later to get the car.
Also, after viewing the damage, again...it is beyond comprehension that the car was damaged before 112. Even though the engine might
run..and the tires go around...that car could not have been driven for a 3 hour trip. Not with that hood ...(possibility of it not being hooked
and flying up) and headlight damage.
When I see my old oil burner Saturn and compare the photos..
No way........!

Someone else spoke of obtaining Dispatch Logs West of Haverhill, NH. West of Haverhill, NH is the Connecticut River and Vermont.
I would assume that ie Wells River (Ryegate) VT and Woodsville (Haverhill) NH work together in any mutual crime problems.

One last thing..someone Posted something about why Maura didn't purchase booze upon arrival
at destination...VT n NH have State liquor stores.
with varying closing times ie 5PM ish
(only beer n wine in grocery type stores)