Where is MAURA MURRAY

I'm only saying it is a possibilty she was planning something. Maura is on video at the ATM and liquor store the afternoon of the 9th at 3:40pm, placing her in Amherst without question. Did she have her cell phone? Or did someone else have it by design?
Did she leave her brothers picture as a bookmark in the chapter A Question of Life or Death as a clue in the event something would go terribly wrong? It is certainly something to ponder.

mcsmom, thanks, I understand you were pondering as the rest of us are! It's hard to imagine someone like Maura running into the wrong people in Amherst, isn't it? When did she even have time? And her friends were "wholesome" students too. Maybe she did understand that just trying to get her "creaky" car up there was a risk, even though it was something she really felt she needed to do. Maybe the various mementos of people she loved in the car was to give her courage? Or if anything happened to her to let each of those people know she loved them? She had things (some gifts?) from a number of people in her family, including the little league card of her younger bro, the bookmarked book that captured her love of hiking with her dad, gloves, jewelry from others? You may know these details better than I do.... and you're right --- I DO ponder this too.

OK well I know Maura and her family vacationed up here and possibly meet people in the Haverhill area over the years while climbing mountains with her dad Fred and family!
#1 I was told Maura knew a girl on Lime Kiln Rd.
#2 I was told Maura knew someone in Mountain Lakes also.
#3 I was told there was a home in Mountain Lakes that either the Murray Family own or have rented before.
#4 I was told that Maura knew the some people near the MMM site but I won't say who!
#5 I wonder if Maura might have owed a fovor or some money to those people for some reason!
#6 I believe Maura got up to Haverhill and the people became very upset with Maura and things got out of hand when she got up to the Haverhill area when she triied to fix what was wrong.
#7 So Maura left Amherst to come directly to Haverhill to make a deal with someone to make things better so as to not keep these people mad at her, shewas the type of person who was a caring and loving person who wanted to settle whatever was wrong and came to Haverhill because that was what was asked of her, so that has to be why she was in the Haverhill area!
#8 When Maura got up to Haverhill she found herself in a mess because she either didn't have the amount of money to keep these peoples mouths shut about something, Maybe she was being
blackmailed by these idiots and the amount of money she was paying them was not enough anymore and they wanted more and were mad when she didn't bring enough of what they were looking for so the Blackmailers went off on her hurting her and she triied to run but they had sabotoged her car with the rag in her tailpipe so she couldn't get away from them.
#9 Maura knew when she left Amhurst that she might not make it home and was in some type of troube and if she told her Dad she knew that she would be judged if anyone knew that she had made a mistake in her life so she told no one in her family as she felt she could take care of his problem in her life but had no idea how bad these people were going to react to her not having what the crooks wanted when she got up in the Haverhill area as she triied to resolve the problem.
#10 Maura then ran away possibly hurt already from these bad people and they were in hot pursuit and ramed her little car off the road time after time untill either the drugs that were slipped in her drink kicked in or they cornered her at the MMM site where they took her and left another woman of her stature to deal with the locals if here where any questions while they triied to get a flatbed there to remove the Saturn but people started asking questions so the crooks abandoned the Saturn and picked that other woman up and they were forced into killing Maura because she knew to much or would have put them in jail if Maura had gone to the Police and if Maura was hurt she might have been ready to do just that!

#11 There are people into the White crafts and some into the Dark arts in the area that have been using thier powers to decieve the police but the people that have been working the white majic have told me that 2 men were involved in the abduction of Maura and that she is dead and has been disposed of byt hte 2 men, know was it a Father and son, I was told yes but I have been told no as well but it was 2 men that killed Maura maybe brothers like Claude and Larry and after the deed was done Larry found he had cancer and turned to the lord to ask forgivness for his part in the murder and turned the knife in to the Police then Fred becuse he had a concience all of a sudden or it could have been Floyd and son who did the cement work after the deed was done as I was told by a person with abilities to do White Majic that she is in some cement in the Haverhill area and was put there by 2 males, both from the same blood, could be father and son or it could be brothers but they are supposed to be related!
#12 How far am I supposed to go and at what means have I gone to far to find the murderers. Is it ok to use the Dark arts to find these Bastards? Whoever I find that was involved or anyone withholding evidence will have bad Karma comming thier way I do know this as My friend is a very powerfull Warlock that will when asked to put a spell on these bad people if we don't find Maura am going to ask for help so that the criminals pay for what they did and in turn we will find Maura I was told when they start to feel th effect of the sickness that will be cast upon them.
#13 Why was Maura in the Haverhill Area??????????

A woman came to me 2 years ago and wanted to tell me something but was scared to tell me what really happened in the area but when she started to tell me she decided to tell me other things about other people and seemed to be a coke head and scared to tell the truth as she feared for her life from a man in her life. I was never told the real truth but instead because I could not protect her she told me lies and is keeping her mouth shut because if she told the truth she would be killed and some of her family would be killed as well so they are scared it seems but she was part of the Maura Murray abdution and other crimes that were commited to cover up the truth and it is working but when there are more than one person involved in a crime after awhile the secret will get out!
In my opinion it is just a matter of time and if these criminals are reading this post they are scared because there is always someone more powerful that can look into the past and see the truth no matter how hard they have triied to cover up this crime. So if you crooks are reading this blog beware because the people getting involved in this case are stronger and will find you, whenthey do they will not be easy on you so the best thing is to come forward and tell the authorities what really happened or you will pay with extreme justice where if you come forward the authorities they might work out a deal with you and keep you out of jail for cooperating with this investigtion, if not be prepared to do a long jail sentence when you are caught.
I suggest you turn States witness and let us know what really happened and where Maura is so the Murray family can have closure and get on with thier life.
Do the right thing because when we find out the Justice Department will not be easy on you as your not cooperating at this point but you can start cooperating and they will give you protection from the people who are blackmailing and threatening you.
Do the right thing and help us solve this case and inturn we will try to help you not go to jail and be as easy as the Law allows, Do yourself a favor so your children or family don't have to live without you for 25 byears to life!
Call Detective Dick Tracy at the Justice Department a call and give testimony against these crooks as I don't believe you involved yourself in this mess on purpose and I am told you were blackmailed.
I will help you as much as I can and so will Dick Tracy.
God Bless the Murray Family from my family to yours.
Bless you all, Ghostrider.

This deal is open for a limited time but if we bring in phycic's and catch you the deal won't be open anymore so do yourself a favor and come in or call and we will help all we can!

We can protect you!

I'm not from NH and know far too little to respond to the recent posts. But when I went back to first half of this forum I saw stuff I wanted to bring up again:

Several posters (with good reason!) thought Maura didn't even have a chance to unpack her room. I said she'd been described as too much of a neat freak to live that way. But --- was it reported the boxes were neatly packed ON HER BED? Where the heck did she sleep the first few weeks? Yeah, she could've moved the boxes from the floor to the bed before she left -- but that sounds like something that would make it easier for whoever would be moving 'em out when she was gone. Not like she'd be right back. Not a great feeling from that. Or -- maybe (from West Point training) she got everything off the floor to quickly wash or sweep the floor? Not that usual for a student.... Just tossing out ideas.

It would sure help, as whiston has been trying to find out, if people could determine the gallery Maura worked part-time at. I remember doing online searches years ago and finding lists of exhibitors, at least one from Burlington, VT, etc.--- artists.

Although Maura's always reportedly been a private person, it would sure help if anyone could find out why her friends were so concerned about her behavior those last 5 days. Several tried to talk her out of going to her dad's motel in Hadley (?) after a party with liquor Sat. night (2/7 to 2/8/04) broke up after midnight. After that was when she had the accident in her dad's car. She was not cited for anything, no DUI, just that the driver was distracted. Her security job boss was worried about her, and a friend called a supervisor (I think it was a supervisor) to check on her even before she was reported missing. Her dad was worried about her being depressed or worried about something.

I'm not trying to take the focus off Haverhill, NH, but I think there's a lot more to be evaluated to see the whole picture. JMHO

Bearing in mind Maura had more training than most and being a smart cookie, she would have evaluated the danger associated with possibly brokering some kind of deal for whatever reason with the wrong people. Especially so if she were coming up short on the cash side. She had to have had an inkling at least and her gut instincts would have told her so. Did she put a safety net into play that she never had the chance to use? Or that others failed her? Is this what threw LE off course before establishing it as a criminal case? It would s'plain the inaction by some. To hide behind a secretive Maura? Doubtful. She was the All American girl. If the girlfriend as you speak about OH MY started "acting wierd" about the time Maura disappeared.....surely this never leaves her mind.

OH MY wrote:

A woman came to me 2 years ago and wanted to tell me something but was scared to tell me what really happened in the area but when she started to tell me she decided to tell me other things about other people and seemed to be a coke head and scared to tell the truth as she feared for her life from a man in her life. I was never told the real truth but instead because I could not protect her she told me lies and is keeping her mouth shut because if she told the truth she would be killed and some of her family would be killed as well so they are scared it seems but she was part of the Maura Murray abdution and other crimes that were commited to cover up the truth and it is working but when there are more than one person involved in a crime after awhile the secret will get out!
In my opinion it is just a matter of time and if these criminals are reading this post they are scared because there is always someone more powerful that can look into the past and see the truth no matter how hard they have triied to cover up this crime. So if you crooks are reading this blog beware because the people getting involved in this case are stronger and will find you, whenthey do they will not be easy on you so the best thing is to come forward and tell the authorities what really happened or you will pay with extreme justice where if you come forward the authorities they might work out a deal with you and keep you out of jail for cooperating with this investigtion, if not be prepared to do a long jail sentence when you are caught.
I suggest you turn States witness and let us know what really happened and where Maura is so the Murray family can have closure and get on with thier life.
Do the right thing because when we find out the Justice Department will not be easy on you as your not cooperating at this point but you can start cooperating and they will give you protection from the people who are blackmailing and threatening you.
Do the right thing and help us solve this case and inturn we will try to help you not go to jail and be as easy as the Law allows, Do yourself a favor so your children or family don't have to live without you for 25 byears to life!
Call Detective Dick Tracy at the Justice Department a call and give testimony against these crooks as I don't believe you involved yourself in this mess on purpose and I am told you were blackmailed.
I will help you as much as I can and so will Dick Tracy.
God Bless the Murray Family from my family to yours.
Bless you all, Ghostrider.

Detective Dick Tracy??????If this wasn't so sad I'd be falling out of my chair laughing.
Oh My I can't figure if you are a child, a joker or someone with a serious problem. Do you stay up all night thinking up these stories that Alfred Hitchcock would be proud of. Your stories become more unbelievable with each post you make.
The people you accuse keeps changing along with your scenerios.
I would advice everyone to go back and read Oh My's comments as the lies and fabrications that they really are.

Wowzer wrote:

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Detective Dick Tracy??????If this wasn't so sad I'd be falling out of my chair laughing.
Oh My I can't figure if you are a child, a joker or someone with a serious problem. Do you stay up all night thinking up these stories that Alfred Hitchcock would be proud of. Your stories become more unbelievable with each post you make.
The people you accuse keeps changing along with your scenerios.
I would advice everyone to go back and read Oh My's comments as the lies and fabrications that they really are.

there are some legit. people here...one i've met, and one i know of...and many more. it's hard to make any sense of OH MY's 'stuff'. weird. unhelpful.

North Shore wrote:

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there are some legit. people here...one i've met, and one i know of...and many more. it's hard to make any sense of OH MY's 'stuff'. weird. unhelpful.

Yes I definitely agree. There are several legit people here that have worked very hard on this but in my opinion Oh My is not one of them unless you count staying up all night and thinking up unrealistic stories to throw everyone off of the true facts.
It makes me wonder why he/she keeps coming up with these slanderous lies and very weird stories. Could it be to take the heat off of themselves?
Only Oh My has the answer to that and I doubt he/she will tell us.

Maura needed a new car. She and her dad were looking for it back in the Amherst area just a day or two before she left. Someone posted here or on another forum a while ago the chance she was trying to get rid of that car that wasn't in great shape. Any connection between that and a NH auto crushing business a poster here mentioned? Just a wild thought...... and for some reason she couldn't be allowed to walk away?

Wowzer,
OH MY is most likely referring to:
TRACY , RICHARD C.
JUSTICE, DEPT. OF
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR x603.271.1258x
richard.c.tracy@doj.nh.gov

Saturnus wrote:

Wowzer,
OH MY is most likely referring to:
TRACY , RICHARD C.
JUSTICE, DEPT. OF
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR x603.271.1258x
richard.c.tracy@doj.nh.gov

Thanks for the verification that this is a real person Saturnus. I still stand by everything I said though. Oh My seems to be out of reality at times.
I've lived here a long time and know many of the people and I know for a fact that much of what Oh My rants about is untrue.
It seems that he/she is craving attention and a pat on the back and will say anything to get it.

Saturnus wrote:

Wowzer,
OH MY is most likely referring to:
TRACY , RICHARD C.
JUSTICE, DEPT. OF
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR x603.271.1258x
richard.c.tracy@doj.nh.gov

Thank you Saturnus!

I don't think OH MY is talking into his wristwatch.....

mcsmom wrote:

I don't think OH MY is talking into his wristwatch.....

mcsmom, thanks for the chuckle, I agree.

OH MY wrote:

This deal is open for a limited time but if we bring in phycic's and catch you the deal won't be open anymore so do yourself a favor and come in or call and we will help all we can!

Bring in psychics? Where have you been?

I think what Outsider refers to is the fact that psychics - or at least one to my knowledge, Carla Baron - have offered their services. At least one profiler has also given his opinion, Dr Maurice Godwin of Norwich University.

I'd like to address the mistaken notion that MMM forum members have somehow refused to allow differing opinions. The best, if less accurate, way to characterize that assumotion is that it's nonsense. I have never know anyone at MMM to refuse to allow an opinion. I have frequently known members, including myself, who are angry at attacks on the family, especially on a site that they are running.

OH MY, if I'm "loosen it" when I agree with you, what am I to make of your posts?