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<quoted text>Actually, under the American's With Disabilities Act, they cannot refuse admission to a person with a psychiatric disability if they otherwise qualify. Kind of ironic, huh?
Very unlikely that this is true. There are qualifications for the job and likely there would be certain specific mental illnesses that would disqualify you to carry fully automatic weapons or have access to 120mm tank rounds or to fire 8 inch artillery shells. The army can be a little slow at times but, they know a public relations nightmare like that they don't need and there are exemptions in the ADA for certain things. Usually the ADA requires certain “reasonable accommodations”. It isn’t carte blanche to force companies to allow blind people to pilot aircraft or to allow severely depressed or social psychopaths to carry automatic weapons or to be allowed to drive around in armored vehicles that are impervious to most countermeasures while being able to fire 120mm HEAT or Canister rounds into civilian areas.

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Snowy White wrote:
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In the course of your digging, have you become aware of any hospitalizations or commitments related to Maura's mental health?
Do you have access to her school/medical records? HIPPA, you know.
Indeed, the 'brilliance' of an armchair dx of schizophrenia, BPD, major depression...or whatever...would be great to weave into the plot...if only it could be substantiated by fact.
I don't believe anyone is attempting to make a diagnosis of any kind. People are throwing around ideas as possibilities. That's all.

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#9627
Saturday Dec 13
 
A couple of stuffs. I think Euro's question is a good one -(something like when was the last undisputed sighting of Maura) so I want him to know I'm not ignoring him - just that there are shades to this - in the public area. I say this because the ATM machine is more likely then not valid with some doubt.

A phone call will show a record - but no independent person (not a part of whatever calls there were) can authenticate Maura's voice.

In my mind it has to do with parties of separate interests corroborating each other's stories.

For example - the Tow truck driver and police corroborate each other in that Maura was in an accident at Amherst.

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Saturday Dec 13
 
looking4amoose wrote:
<quoted text> I obviously need to apologize for my statements, but I was spcifically discussing pinging. The affadavit isn't discussing a ping.... it's discussing a call being trasmitted....where did the statement come in to say that her phone pinged?(pung? had pung? have pung? not sure of what tense to use for the verb!) Did Sprint ever look at Maura's last ping and where it was from?
I did exactly the same thing. No sweat.:)

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Saturday Dec 13
 
Good news is that looking4amoose made it safely.

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Saturday Dec 13
 
http://www.getintoacademy.com/51/3-tips-on-pa...

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Psychiatric and Personality Disorders: Psychotic episodes. Character and behavior disorders. History of depression requiring meds, outpatient treatment or hospitalization. Bedwetting/sleepwalking/eating disorders past the age of 12. Attention deficit, hyperactivity disorder or learning disability such as dyslexia, which interferes with perceptual or academic skills past the age of 12. Use of medications to reduce symptoms of ADD or ADHD within the previous 12 months.

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#9631
Saturday Dec 13
 
I will say that the way Mason put this helped me see more clearly the idea that her room was being used like a closet ....
Mason wrote:
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If the boxes were on the bed when I returned from Christmas break, they'd be on the floor pretty quick and that's where the would remain until I got sick and tired of looking at them and stepping over them. That might not happen for a long time.
Who is going to get up in the morning, make the bed, and pile all of the boxes back on top of the bed before leaving the room? That's absurd.
I think Mason has added a lot here.
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Benji wrote:
Not really worth it, but possible small lead might be found if you try standing in line late afternoon on center and listen to the music and poetry. Need a good ear. Probably waste of time.
More realistic suggestion is search Amherst for the obvious about where she probably was before she disappeared. Very simple. Extremely routine, very easy to do, done all the time. No talent required. Find the answer, disregard the answer, and then look very closely at the structure. If you don't get it, look up meaning in dictionary.
Hi Alden. Once again, care to explain in English?

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Snowy White wrote:
http://www.getintoacademy.com/ 51/3-tips-on-passing-the-dodme rb-medical-examination/
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http://www.cga.edu/display.aspx...
Psychiatric and Personality Disorders: Psychotic episodes. Character and behavior disorders. History of depression requiring meds, outpatient treatment or hospitalization. Bedwetting/sleepwalking/eating disorders past the age of 12. Attention deficit, hyperactivity disorder or learning disability such as dyslexia, which interferes with perceptual or academic skills past the age of 12. Use of medications to reduce symptoms of ADD or ADHD within the previous 12 months.
http://www.west-point.org/academy/malo-wa/med...
Good evidence that Maura didn't have any of these issues as a usual factor in her life - under normal circumstances - so this now is my reason it could have only been temporary and medicine induced - and one of several possible explanations as to what happened.
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WTF-the-original wrote:
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Very unlikely that this is true. There are qualifications for the job and likely there would be certain specific mental illnesses that would disqualify you to carry fully automatic weapons or have access to 120mm tank rounds or to fire 8 inch artillery shells. The army can be a little slow at times but, they know a public relations nightmare like that they don't need and there are exemptions in the ADA for certain things. Usually the ADA requires certain “reasonable accommodations”. It isn’t carte blanche to force companies to allow blind people to pilot aircraft or to allow severely depressed or social psychopaths to carry automatic weapons or to be allowed to drive around in armored vehicles that are impervious to most countermeasures while being able to fire 120mm HEAT or Canister rounds into civilian areas.
Bill
That was pretty much the point I was trying to make, but Bill's succeeded in making it pretty colourfully, and I think he does a better job of getting the point across. Thanks, Bill.:)

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Hello all,

This may be a completely random co-incidence, but I remember having seen a picture of Maura together with a female friend, who looks quite a lot like Maura at first glance, except taller and "bigger".
This young lady could quite easily have been mis-identified as being Maura by the SBD in the darkness of the Weathered Barn curve.
Theoretically speaking, of course.

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Saturday Dec 13
 
Benjamin Franklyne wrote:
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Good evidence that Maura didn't have any of these issues as a usual factor in her life - under normal circumstances - so this now is my reason it could have only been temporary and medicine induced - and one of several possible explanations as to what happened.
Agree.
Beyond West Point, could have been 'temporary and medicine induced'.
We cannot name it as to specifically state 'schizophrenia', as has been attempted, without some evidence, IMHO.
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Saturday Dec 13
 
Benji wrote:
Not really worth it, but possible small lead might be found if you try standing in line late afternoon on center and listen to the music and poetry. Need a good ear. Probably waste of time.
More realistic suggestion is search Amherst for the obvious about where she probably was before she disappeared. Very simple. Extremely routine, very easy to do, done all the time. No talent required. Find the answer, disregard the answer, and then look very closely at the structure. If you don't get it, look up meaning in dictionary.
Benji the structure is it a hunch or do you know something?
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Firefly wrote:
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I don't believe anyone is attempting to make a diagnosis of any kind. People are throwing around ideas as possibilities. That's all.
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I'mm glad to know that Firefly because of course noone is qualified to make a diagnosis of any possible mental health problem for anyone on a public forum and certainly not Maura who did not display any overt symptoms of chronic problems.
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#9639
Saturday Dec 13
 
Thank you Bill, once again loud and clear as a bell!
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Saturday Dec 13
 
Eurobserver wrote:
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goat,
I actually think it quite likely that the Saturn actually suffered a real accident at the Weathered Barn and that it was perhaps intended to be driven further into the wilds of the White Mountain National Forest, possibly to be dumped there.
that may be possible but to say its final resting place ie the accident scene was an in tended location doesn't add up to me. If your contention is this accident occurred on the way to dump the car and occupants took off maybe I could see this(still think mm at scene). but to say that accident scene was intended staging area makes no sense. please tell me why u think it is
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And so Goat, if the accident was a real accident, you think it was then that Maura decided to check out? Taking her books seems to imply either she planned to come come back or even more genius on her part if she actually intended to bail (just to keep us guessing). The possibility of a plan to escape but an even more sinister, random ending for her seems too remote for me. I doubt she'd go to all the trouble of even considering NH if she planned to disappear. So, either someone else planned her demise or she fell victim to life's unfortunate sinkholes.
check out suicide or new life????????? upon reading this the first time on cnn my thoughts wandered toward suicide. now not so much. I do think she left with a plan and that there was at least 1 other person involved. How, I don't Know. This either was very successful escape from unhappy life or went terribly wrong week get away. may I ADD THAT MAYBE ACCOMPLICE MET SAME FATE.

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Saturday Dec 13
 
Eurobserver wrote:
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Mason,
Very good point there, which I was on the verge of bringing up myself.
If Beagle Bart is right about this, why on earth should the crashed Toyota of Maura´s father cause such an interest at the body shop?
I´ve never been able to explain this.
Ideas???
I haven't finished catching up on reading the rest of the posts so forgive me if this was brought up....could all the attention give to the car be due to the several hit & runs that happened in a short time in that area? Possibly it was before the arrested the one girl that was involved in one of them and were trying to gather evidence....

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Saturday Dec 13
 
Snowy White wrote:
Have you guys ever thought of using different threads for different aspects of the discussion? It might be a way to organize and keep some continuity of thought.
THAT would be a dream come true! Don't have a clue how to do it but willing to help if someone can take the lead. Good to know I'm not the only one needing a drink & a smoke everytime I read the forum....
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Pointer wrote:
The only reason for someone planning her demise (that I can think of) is the borrowed car/hit & run theory. Otherwise, we're down to random abduction or her desire to disappear, with some damn good accomplices. Random abduction seems the more likely of these two.
random abduction in such a small time frame with many houses who are already aware of crash seems very unlikely to me. sorry to disagree but behavior prior leads me to believe planned disappearance more likely. now that being said it may have ended badly.
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