Where is MAURA MURRAY

Most everyone up in this area work hard especially older people unless they are from the city and there are alot of city transplants up in the Mountain Lakes area which is close tothe MMM site!
The description sounds like a person from the city or a person who has never done much manual labor! Being of the age your talking about he must have been left money or he had a desk job unlike most of the people up here who 40 to 50 years ago were all farmers or loggers.

Sounds almost like a polititian that description!

OH MY wrote:

Could Maura have been so stressed that she took a vacation to get away from the Mass. area to try and relax up in Haverhill N.H. where she might have met the wrong people?

Maura told her nursing professor that she was leaving for a family emergency---she ran the risk of being thrown out of nursing school by doing that. Looking at her actions prior to leaving Amherst, she was very troubled by something that she could not share with others--even the people closest to her....was she being sexually abused? had she been sexual molested as a child and maybe she was just beginning to realize it? why did Fred make the comment about her heading up there to commit suicide? what did he realize that maybe isn't being shared? Why does her scent stop in the middle of the road? Maybe it was prearranged that someone would pick her up? maybe there was no crime and she just wanted to disappear and live a new life? Maybe the HPD can't say anything because she doesn't WANT to be found---its not a crime to change your name and start a new life. and the biggest question of all, does anyone REALLY know that it was Maura?

looking4amoose thanyou for having the guts to post these questions .it is way past time.was katie jones taking clinicals at bayside medical center when petrit vasi was brought in.take care bring on the ducks .take care philip

I have to address the molestation idea, this has been looked at/discussed and ruled out. Billy and Maura enjoyed a long and faithful relationship, very normal except for having to say goodbye due to the military. She referred to him as stud, affectionately and he heard that idea/rumor, dismissing it.
Somehow Maura was rumored (by police?) to be heading to Sharon's home in (Ohio)? due to a family problem. Sharon did not beleive this at all and left her doors open just in case, but no.......maybe that's what people think Fred was trying to say....Maura did not seem to be heading there though. She seemed to be heading to places she looked up on her computer and or called and that's where the car was found.

My son left home in the middle of the night a few weeks back and I was a mess. Police told me the same things about him having the right to do whatever he wants.........I said to at least look for him, he has no ID, no money, no phone, no vehicle and must be depressed. They asked me if he was a danger to himself or suicidal, I said maybe, I had no idea, I was a mess, I wanted to know where he was!!(24)........He slept in the woods. His friend volunteer firefights and heard someone had been hit on the highway refusing treatment. He thought it was my son but could not get a name. My son is disabled and that's the best I could get.......

looking4amoose,

you raise really good questions. Also there's the possibility someone "took advantage" of her at West Point, even though she had her boyfriend there for support. The night she broke down crying -- late feb. 5th, was the night that a newspaper (USA Today?) had an article about rape in the military and academies, etc. I vaguely remember it appearing online at 8PM that night. And females are discouraged from reporting it, since the assaulting males "have something on her", like drinking when it's not allowed, or something equally minor, but punishable by the Honor Code. Blackmailing for something like this is possible too --- and I'm not being dramatic. It'd be a way to ruin someone's life.

Seeing the cute pics of her as a child there is always the possibility that someone, however distant from her household who had access, did abuse her. Something big and life-changing seems to have been hitting her within 5 days of leaving UMass.

New life? The church in Barton, VT sighting seemed to be from a reliable man who had daughters himself! And it's not too long a ride to Burlington, VT from around that area (70 miles?) for bookstores, a college course and activities, if a person needed a break from hiding out in the "country". Who knows?

Steve is ok and getting what he needs now. He would never hurt himself was my point, just relating to the fear and stress of Fred's situation and how I answered myself to police questioning.

Oh My, are you referring to the description I wrote of this man?

I DID NO GIVE AN AGE!!

As to the whitness of his skin..Maybe he was recently released from jail!! Who knows? He was described by the clerk as a transient painter. I knew there was a reason I didn't give a full description. Hmmm

Just me, I am glad you son is now home and getting help.

Although people want to dismiss the sexual molestation question, the reality is that she could have been molested as a child by a close or distant relative or friend. The brian works in mysterious ways and she could have repressed it all until something happened in her life to bring it all to the surface. She was doing dangerous things rior to her disappearance---driving drunk, multiple accidents, showing up a his motel in the early hours of the morning.......... they are all attempts to get help without coming right out and asking for it.

I'm glad that your son is OK--stress plays havoc with our ability to reason thinks out....and when we can't tell someone about what is stressing us.....it's even worse.

As far Petrit Vasi, I don't know too much about that but will continue to seek information on it. I don't have the answers, but the human response to certain stressors tends to be familiarized among the population, and Maura's actions seem to spell out the actions of a young lady with PTSD.

Well I am no Phycyatrist and I think this is a cop out by saying she was sexually molested, I can think of many situations I couldblame this disappearance on!
I hope there was no such thing that ever happened in Maura's life.
On a better note I believe I know who the man is that I got a description on but I am not going to tell who it is in the room untill I run it by the Justice Department.
If Maura was sexually molested by anyonre I don't she would have told her boy friend or a close female friend so I don't agree with that at all!!!!

I say this story about being sexually molestedm is just that a story that was started by the murderers up in the Haverhill N.H. area!
Maura would have told someone.
I do believe Maura was troubled by something but I believe it was a friend in trouble and being a caring soul that she was she dropped everything she was doing to help that friend!

Just Me, I had no idea what you were going through with Steve. Glad he's OK!

A lot to examine to explain Maura's behavior prior to leaving... It could be totally meaningless (many students are basket cases with the pressure of finals or papers)--- and altho it was just the beginning of the semester, Maura seemed to be overextended with all her school, clinical and job responsibilities, plus the car and her boyfriend far away.

OR -- with posters like whiston trying to fill in the gaps of Maura's day-to-day schedule before she left, maybe an important motivator for heading north in an "iffy" car WILL show up. I can't imagine Maura having any connection with "the wrong people" in the Haverhill area, so.... maybe we're just back at (one of) the NH accident scenes for answers. It also seems that by 7-7:30 Monday night she was getting close to her destination and would be looking for accommodations.

* We all know that Maura was a person of high character. But WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF HER BEING A PERSON OF INTEGRITY I hope we can freely examine behaviors that might have put her at risk, yet should not detract from her character. She was a good, caring kid and as a star athlete probably took excellent care of herself. But if she even had a moderate amount of liquor during the day or in the evening, sometimes kids need a stimulant (more than coffee) to keep them awake. Think about how you feel after 2 glasses of wine. It's just one more thing to consider. It's pretty common for students to use Ritalin or an amphetamine, and in moderation (prescribed doses) may not hurt the body. They're prescribed all the time and not hard to get. And women like them for weight control... and they're good for a long road trip, writing papers, and keeping from being drowsy. OK, i beat that idea into the ground, but it's a possibility. Using a little at a party to stay awake and then not having any the next day, for ex., can lead to emotional ups and downs for sure. The crashes are really bad, even from safe amounts.

Where Maura was sitting at a security desk in Mass. she might have found out some information that she could not discuss and possibly went to Haverhill to get answers and she ended up in the right place at the wrong time also!
Being as smart as Maura was she might have had a meeting with someone in Haverhill to see if she could fix whatever was so messed up! This is all speculation by me but a smart woman like Maura might have been alittle to smart for her own good.
I know when I am looking over certain things in some cases I make mistakes as we are all human and can screw up without really knowing I have untill I examine the conciquences and see I handled it all wrong but that is part of learning by learning through our mistakes and in some cases it only takes one mistake to have a bad outcome when I am actually trying to do something good it turns sour and then I am at risk!
Well Maura was half my age so it is easy to make a mistake in the game of life, then I wish I would have played out the game a different way!
I hope it wasn't a deal where she went to Haverhill to look into a man or woman or a gang that could have hurt her but it seems this could have been what happened! I will know more with more information from people in here and people I know in Haverhill as well as elsewhere that give me information and then I piece it together but while I do that it is very easy to say or do the wrong thing and put myself in harms way.
I believe Maura went to Haverhill on purpose to do something and it might have been more of a danger than she realized and when she finally did realize it was dangerous it might have been to late to turn back and then everything tuned bad fast and when she triied to get away the perps might have already sabotoged her car and then chased her down and abducted her.
There would have had to be more than one person though,,I figure around 6 to 12 people where involved directly and indirectly in whatever truth Maura was seeking might have been the end for her right there in Haverhill area!!!!!!

The truth will come out even if I have to bring in specialists to go beyond the living to ask Maura herself!

looking4amoose wrote:

Although people want to dismiss the sexual molestation question, the reality is that she could have been molested as a child by a close or distant relative or friend. The brian works in mysterious ways and she could have repressed it all until something happened in her life to bring it all to the surface. She was doing dangerous things rior to her disappearance---driving drunk, multiple accidents, showing up a his motel in the early hours of the morning.......... they are all attempts to get help without coming right out and asking for it.
I'm glad that your son is OK--stress plays havoc with our ability to reason thinks out....and when we can't tell someone about what is stressing us.....it's even worse.
As far Petrit Vasi, I don't know too much about that but will continue to seek information on it. I don't have the answers, but the human response to certain stressors tends to be familiarized among the population, and Maura's actions seem to spell out the actions of a young lady with PTSD.

Who knows if Maura ever even once drove drunk though? I have driven after a couple drinks and was not drunk and neither was Maura who needed an officer the night she drove into the guardrails, dad's car. She was not given a DWI, DUI......was allowed to keep on dr
Wait a minute, light bulb........I never did like the way Maura was driven to the motel. I have asked, who was that officer? Because someone was hit the gaurdrails in NH too, not far from the abandoned car. Maura was a new driver, mainly winter conditions. Can anybody find out who responded and drove Maura the night of the accident with Fred's car? I wonder if someone would use pit manuvers, whatever you'd call it, to make Maura stop.

I realize the phone call, crying, seeming down are all part of the mood at the time......and I think of last straws too.......but the above has always bugged me and I want to make sure I was clear.(not my best feature)

Once Fred's car ran into the guardrails, Maura had to deal with police. Fred's car was towed away, Maura was driven to the hotel by the officer. Blackmail? Go to NH?.......

just me wrote:

<quoted text>Who knows if Maura ever even once drove drunk though? I have driven after a couple drinks and was not drunk and neither was Maura who needed an officer the night she drove into the guardrails, dad's car. She was not given a DWI, DUI......was allowed to keep on dr
Wait a minute, light bulb........I never did like the way Maura was driven to the motel. I have asked, who was that officer? Because someone was hit the gaurdrails in NH too, not far from the abandoned car. Maura was a new driver, mainly winter conditions. Can anybody find out who responded and drove Maura the night of the accident with Fred's car? I wonder if someone would use pit manuvers, whatever you'd call it, to make Maura stop.

Where was that accident you are talking about?
Yes the Police or an X-Policeman or a well trained driver could use a pit on Maura or anyone for that matter!
The officers name should be on the accident report unless another officer gave her a ride the the motel.
What motel are you talking about the motel in Mass.?
I might be able to help if I had more details about the accident and the motel where Maura was taken to!
There seems to be alot of blackmail with alot of Policemen, either they want this or that when they get women into compromising positions. It isn't right but it happens alot!!!!!!!

just me wrote:

I realize the phone call, crying, seeming down are all part of the mood at the time......and I think of last straws too.......but the above has always bugged me and I want to make sure I was clear.(not my best feature)
Once Fred's car ran into the guardrails, Maura had to deal with police. Fred's car was towed away, Maura was driven to the hotel by the officer. Blackmail? Go to NH?.......

Where was this accident your talking about?
I am unsure what you mean by someone else ran into the guardrails near where Maura ran into the guardrails as well?