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#9948
Tuesday Dec 16
 
WTF ~
The best post, ever. Still laughing.

A friend, former engineer with Stone and Webster, was fired from his post-retirement job at the local hardware store because he overtalked "lightbulbs" with the customers.
True story.
Quija

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Goat seemed right when posting Maura probably left her other personal stuff in the car because she was planning to return. But where in heaven's name was she thinking of spending the night --- the next 11-1/2 hours until daylight? She had enough cash to reclaim the car in the morning. And to also stay in a motel.

New idea (for me, anyway):
You'd think she'd want to stay in a nearby motel, maybe one in Woodsville she might've passed, near the freeway, to make it CHEAPER AND EASIER to get back and reclaim her car the next day. Rather than hitching a ride to Lincoln, Bartlett, Woodstock or Franconia. I'd guess the closest motels (to the west) had their registers carefully checked as the searching began. All of a sudden it just does not make sense that she began running or took a ride EAST, because it would make it that much harder to return to Woodsville area. I don't think it was Maura that the CW saw.

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Tuesday Dec 16
 
elsewherebriefly wrote:
What is bothersome about the BOLO is that it decribed a woman with long black hair.
Maura's hair is brown and as Weeper stated before cut in a bob style which is below the chin/shoulder length tops.
I don’t’ get too rattled by things like that.

Many people expect that everyone will say the same thing and that everything they say will be entirely correct. This is almost never the case. People don’t see some things. Sometimes they (or their mind) fills in blank parts. An example, when police have eye witnesses they will usually use the combination of descriptions because there is really no way to know who has the most accurate. They will all have some differences and if they don’t its time to suspect that the witnesses got together and rehearsed their testimony.

Maura would wear her hair in a bun most of the time. The fact her hair was down just lends credence to my belief she was hit with the airbag during the collision. Her hair color at night. My hair color is actually dark brown which was very clear when next to black hair. Well it was when I had it and before what little is left is turning grey. Almost everyone says it black. At night I wouldn’t be surprised that anybody would call Maura’s hair black.

Small discrepancies don’t worry me. A female in her 20’s driving Maura’s car in New Hampshire, to me, is Maura until something very clearly changes that. I also have trouble filling in “the why” someone who stole Maura’s car would bother locking it and taking the keys if she had no vested interest in protecting the vehicle and contents.

Bill
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#9951
Tuesday Dec 16
 
It 2006
Detective Columbo wrote:
Quote...Whitewash
"Yesterday afternoon we had the pleasure of about 10 search cars outside
the house - parked on the other side of Bradley Hill pretty much
blocking 1 lane of traffic. They went along the road behind my garage
and down towards the river. Too bad they never stopped in."
.....Oct. 2007...... or 2006....?
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whiston wrote:
hi all,i keep thinking about a few things.The key for the saturn was used to drive the saturn to N,H,and where and when did the liquor go form the mystery liquor store.I dont think there was enough time for Maura to get from the mystery liquor store and go hang out with someone.Maybe she was headng over there and was grabbed.Maybe she was going home to her mom and was bringing a gift.I am stilll wondering which one of her friends said she 'did not want to get her in trouble'when she was asked about Maura after she vanished and what did she mean.I wil see ifi can dig it up.take care philp
Philip, the "didn't want to get her in trouble thing".....I think it was discussed in the very last days of the MMM forum.....but I can't remember what was said about it. Do you still have the archives available? I don't remember the specifics, as I said, but I remember a family member talking about it.

It'd be good to remind us, so if anyone remembers, PLEASE clue us in.
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<quoted text>dont see why? it certainlt would explain reluctancr to le being called
I think, goat, that he's just saying that we shouldn't judge Maura or blame her if she was drinking and driving, or even had an alcohol problem--that neither of those things means she "deserves" what happened to her one bit.

But, yes, it would indeed explain that reluctance. So it might be important on that level. Just not on the level of she doesn't deserve to be missing.

I am explaining this so very, very poorly. Forgive me. But do you know what I'm saying?
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HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE....PLEASE
Language.....
For real. I for one have heard just about every expletive out there and are offended by very, very few.....but most people have better company manners than I.

What bothers me more is the vitriol than the actual word choice. I don't care how you choose to say it, there's no reason to get that worked up at another human being for what goes on over a message board.
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Tuesday Dec 16
 
Snowy White wrote:
Not making a reservation because she/they will have a place to stay, or find one along the way.
She even went the additional step that many students don't bother--that of at least calling and trying to make reservations a few places.
For the most part, I've kept close tabs on my kids (as if I could keep them safe from a distance!) and liked to know their plans for weekends if they traveled away from campus.
Oh good lord I can't tell you the number of times I left campus for the weekend (once flying to Chicago 100 miles away) without my parents ever knowing. Unless of course they're reading this now.:)

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Tuesday Dec 16
 
WTF-the-original wrote:
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I don’t’ get too rattled by things like that.
Many people expect that everyone will say the same thing and that everything they say will be entirely correct. This is almost never the case. People don’t see some things. Sometimes they (or their mind) fills in blank parts. An example, when police have eye witnesses they will usually use the combination of descriptions because there is really no way to know who has the most accurate. They will all have some differences and if they don’t its time to suspect that the witnesses got together and rehearsed their testimony.
Maura would wear her hair in a bun most of the time. The fact her hair was down just lends credence to my belief she was hit with the airbag during the collision. Her hair color at night. My hair color is actually dark brown which was very clear when next to black hair. Well it was when I had it and before what little is left is turning grey. Almost everyone says it black. At night I wouldn’t be surprised that anybody would call Maura’s hair black.
Small discrepancies don’t worry me. A female in her 20’s driving Maura’s car in New Hampshire, to me, is Maura until something very clearly changes that. I also have trouble filling in “the why” someone who stole Maura’s car would bother locking it and taking the keys if she had no vested interest in protecting the vehicle and contents.
Bill
Bill,
Your post makes sense and I agree with you.
One thing though:
If a female friend/"helper" of Maura´s was in fact driving the Saturn at the time it came to as stop by the Weathered Barn, then this friend of hers would no doubt lock the car before leaving it.
Perhaps such a scenario (a female friend/"helper" driving the Saturn) could also explain why Maura´s jewellery, monkey Joseph and other things were left behind in the locked car.

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Referring back a few pages -- someone had posted asking about a couple of photos in which Maura is shown with another dark-haired woman. In one photo, that woman has her arm thrown across Maura's shoulders, and in the other photo both of them were wearing black dresses. While I'm not positive, I think this other woman may be Maura's sister Julie. On the MMM webpage, there is a link to photos of Maura from the Early Years (something like that), and there is one picture showing all the children -- sister Julie in that childhood photo has features that (to me) closely resemble the woman the poster was asking about.
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#9958
Tuesday Dec 16
 
hi Firecat and all.I will look for the 'i dont want to get her in trouble'quote.Quija Maybe ,if Maura was at the saturn the person that may have picked her up said something along the line of 'we can come right back with a larger vehicle to pull the saturn out of the snow'.I am assuming that if Maura was at the saturn she would have come right back with a vehicle to tow it out of the snow bank .At this point as far as she could have known if she had been able to move the car before PD,were called nobody would be calling her father and her trip up to N.H. would still be a secret.I assume the battery was reconnected at Lavoies so the saturn could be tarted.Take care philip

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FireCat wrote:
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I think, goat, that he's just saying that we shouldn't judge Maura or blame her if she was drinking and driving, or even had an alcohol problem--that neither of those things means she "deserves" what happened to her one bit.
But, yes, it would indeed explain that reluctance. So it might be important on that level. Just not on the level of she doesn't deserve to be missing.
I am explaining this so very, very poorly. Forgive me. But do you know what I'm saying?
I understand...and think I was getting at the same point when I became worked up about the suggestion that Maura might have been a "drunk" or "alcoholic"...which then could follow..."she wasn't careful and deserved her fate".
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hiFireCat and all the ' i dont want to get her in trouble 'quote was in the Boston Globe on march 2 2004 and written by Brian McGrory under the heading Where could Maura be.take care philip.
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Wowzer wrote:
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I believe that the nose stays the same but not the eyes.My eyes look different than what they looked like 20 years ago. I believe eye shape changes with age, weight gain, weight loss etc but that's just my thought and I could be wrong.
I can't help but skim faces of young women when I go to restaurants here and in Maine. I look for that dimple that Maura has in the pictures when she is smiling.
Wowzer, I haven't read the posts after this, in case it's already been said, but I understand that a person's ears remain the same over time.(the upper cartilage more than the lobe that can sag over the decades...) I can get "documentation" on this if you want! But it's an ear-tight case.
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Quija wrote:
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Wowzer, I haven't read the posts after this, in case it's already been said, but I understand that a person's ears remain the same over time.(the upper cartilage more than the lobe that can sag over the decades...) I can get "documentation" on this if you want! But it's an ear-tight case.
I don't think documentation is needed nor do I want any. I only stated my opinion and said I could be wrong. The dimple on her face to me would be much more noticible than someone's upper cartilage on their ears. This is just something I happen to look for when in stores and restaurants. This is just my opinion. It is not documanted anywhere.
Jeesh people are testy today. Time to shut the computer down.
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Sorry FireCat doesn't fit the MO that the Murrays
are stating!
Close Family!
Talked to Mom every night!
Sister daily!
Father close!
So for her to up and leave just doesn't fit!

But Billy stated that Fred didn't know they where "engaged to be engaged"

I don't see her taking off without calling her
family of course someone speaking to her last
probably would know that she was struggling.
FireCat wrote:
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She even went the additional step that many students don't bother--that of at least calling and trying to make reservations a few places.
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Oh good lord I can't tell you the number of times I left campus for the weekend (once flying to Chicago 100 miles away) without my parents ever knowing. Unless of course they're reading this now.:)
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Wowzer wrote:
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I don't think documentation is needed nor do I want any. I only stated my opinion and said I could be wrong. The dimple on her face to me would be much more noticible than someone's upper cartilage on their ears. This is just something I happen to look for when in stores and restaurants. This is just my opinion. It is not documanted anywhere.
Jeesh people are testy today. Time to shut the computer down.
Wowzer! Hey, don't shut the computer down!!!! I'm not testy --- I'm female and lack testiness!!!!(This is another sorta-joke.) I was partly posting what I heard was true about "ears", but I do understand what you were saying -- her cheeks and dimples are unique (and lovely too).(The "documentation" sentence was a lead-in to a little, tiny, pun.) No rancor here.

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Tuesday Dec 16
 
beach bum wrote:
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"Benjamin Franklyne," - The laughable sense of pride
Up oh, sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays!

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elsewherebriefly wrote:
Snowy
I learned through a NH Liquor Commissioner decades ago that the eyes and nose of a person never changes and to focus on this section of the face during the identification process.
Very good piece of information for people to keep in mind if possibly uncertain if they are looking at someone they think is Maura - however - I still would strongly consider telling Weeper anyway.
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Advocator wrote:
Referring back a few pages -- someone had posted asking about a couple of photos in which Maura is shown with another dark-haired woman. In one photo, that woman has her arm thrown across Maura's shoulders, and in the other photo both of them were wearing black dresses. While I'm not positive, I think this other woman may be Maura's sister Julie. On the MMM webpage, there is a link to photos of Maura from the Early Years (something like that), and there is one picture showing all the children -- sister Julie in that childhood photo has features that (to me) closely resemble the woman the poster was asking about.
The relatives that post here would know that, wouldn't you think?

Unless they are more relatives that have never actually met the people involved.
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