Where is MAURA MURRAY

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>How do you know this?
Did you look at the Corolla in person? If so, when?
Did you see the Corolla before it was towed from the Quality Inn?
Where is the Quality Inn, by the way?

I can imagine this to be true - kind of like when a person's photo is taken - some people have pink or red in the center of their eyes - all has to do with the camera, light when the picture was taken, etc.

I don't see that Detective Colombo would have a reason to lie.

And on another subject - just wanted to say thank you to the good detective for answering a question here.:)

sophie bean wrote:

Also - if someone from MA is responsible for Maura's disappearance, if her disappearance indeed has nothing to do with local residents in NH, their anger and hostility about the questions focused on NH are fully justified and understandable. Perhaps "the locals" and those of us who have feared that they were "against" some of us have more in common than we may have thought. Perhaps all of us - let's call us the non-bots - are realy in this together and should focus our interest on WHY Beagle and the Clones are throwing us a hundred curves a day.

My earlier post got deleted so I will repeat:

You really think that everyone that has a different opinion, or one you don't like,is ONE poster, assuming different names?

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>But are you familiar with Franklin Templeton? PO Box 7777, 777 Marina?

Actually Beagle - no, at least not intimately. I have seen that name on other people's forms when I put numbers on tax returns for people. I am from a much humbler background then I imagine you think - I own nothing of importance and my influence is only amongst my friends and hamily - none of which are significant to be noteworthy.

sophie bean wrote:

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Hey, Wowzer, people may have noticed that the number of times you and I agree on something is small indeed, but I think you're absolutely right in this case. And yes, I believe there is "another" as well. Perhaps the similarities between a number of the previous "incarnations" is unintentional, but I have certainly noticed them. It is truly disgusting to see someone playing this game when a young woman's life and her family's peace of mind are in turmoil.

Well Sophie there is something else we agree on and that's the fact that the game playing is disgusting. It would not surprise me to see more pop up. It's a mind game to them.
It's too bad he/she doesn't bottle all of the intelligence I know they have and use it to help.

White Wash wrote:

Play the Lotto kids!
FireCat and I agree!
Doesn't every story need a beginning,middle and end?
No Maura no ending!
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LOL. Actually I think we've agreed twice this week. Should we be alarmed?

Detective Columbo wrote:

Chris Gray-Murdered
Tom Conrad-Murdered
Al Powell-Murdered
Patric McCarthy-Murdered
Dionne Nelson-Missing
Maura Murray-Missing
Brianna Maitland-Missing

When did Patric McCarthy death get changed from accidental death to a murder?

And if someone is lying about this what else are they lying about?

WHISTON wrote:

hi all .Maura did not decide to leave WestPoint Military Academy . She was asked to leave.She was guided to umass for many reasons including mrMurray was a graduate there. there were no clinicals in Norwood when Maura was at umass amherst.

Philip, from where do you get this information? Are these facts, or are they your suppositions/opinions? Can they be confirmed?

Detective Columbo wrote:

PLEASE check out this story about PATRIC McCARTHY. It tells a different story about his death.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshir...

This is from Jan 05. There has been nothing to change the determination of accidental death from hypothermia.

A separate thread is available that I believe a relative has made comments.

This is getting interesting. Didn't I JUST say that I did NOT mean that people with whom I have disagreed are part of Beagle and the Clones? Yeah, I did.

I tend to agree with Shack, FireCat, elsewherebriefly, Lady Gray and a number of others - obviously, they're not clones, ha ha.

I often disagree with WTF, Wowzer, White Wash, and MANY others - I am certain that they are not clones, either.

The rest I will be happy to leave to your deductive powers.

johneyonetime
“top editor bristol ”

Detective Columbo wrote:
Chris Gray-Murdered
Tom Conrad-Murdered
Al Powell-Murdered
Patric McCarthy-Murdered
Dionne Nelson-Missing
Maura Murray-Missing
Brianna Maitland-Missing
let them go let them go just forget them

EXCUSE YOU????????

Wowzer wrote:

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Well Sophie there is something else we agree on and that's the fact that the game playing is disgusting. It would not surprise me to see more pop up. It's a mind game to them.
It's too bad he/she doesn't bottle all of the intelligence I know they have and use it to help.

Agreed.

Sophie are you accusing me of being a clone?

WHISTON wrote:

hi all .Maura did not decide to leave WestPoint Military Academy . She was asked to leave.She was guided to umass for many reasons including mrMurray was a graduate there. there were no clinicals in Norwood when Maura was at umass amherst.The prior forum was very censored.I was banished for asking about Mauras prior life.Somewhere i have an email from Helena saying i asked too much too many times about Mauras past.Every time i asked or even mentioned about Mauras past the cousins would jump in and slap it down.NOBODY at amherst was from her past life in Hanson . There were no friends who could have called her at home after the reported emails.They dont ' know that there is a place to post there thoughts.TAKE CARE PHILIP

Funny every time new info. comes up everyone starts bickering, subject gets changed.

I don't think there will be an ending until the beginning of the mystery is discussed.

sophie bean wrote:

Also - if someone from MA is responsible for Maura's disappearance, if her disappearance indeed has nothing to do with local residents in NH, their anger and hostility about the questions focused on NH are fully justified and understandable. Perhaps "the locals" and those of us who have feared that they were "against" some of us have more in common than we may have thought. Perhaps all of us - let's call us the non-bots - are realy in this together and should focus our interest on WHY Beagle and the Clones are throwing us a hundred curves a day.

Ahhhhh Sophie you finally got it!!!! Speaking for only myself I will say that I've never been against anyone. Angered and upset yes but not against anyone.I just spoke what I believed to be the truth and will continue to do so.
Working together is always better than working individually.

Beagle wrote:

Why is it that Franklin Templeton of San Mateo, CA is so close to both the Ferguson and Murray cases? Any thoughts on that?

What are you trying to say here? That because I used the name "Benjamin Franklin" and that my ISP's sometimes uses a router is stationed in San Mateo - that for some reason I have something to do with Franklin Templeton?

Whole lot of tip not a lot of iceburg. LOL.

I'm just like everybody else - I have a job, live off of my paycheck, have a wife and some lifelong friends - but I am of no significance to the general public or the financial world. And that doesn't bother me at all.

Maybe a few not for profit organizations might know who I am - ones that no one on the east coast would ever hear of, or think significant.

I think you should first explain what you think the connection is - because I know that - anything besides a geographical coincidence between where my ISP's router location and what _you say_ Franklin Templeton's headquarters is (it could be their headquarters - but I'm not doing any extra research on this because I've looked at your stuff before and it amounted to nothing.)

When I looked at the financial statement footnotes you posted here a while back - at least I'm assuming it was you.(So when I say you - I mean "Harry" if that was you. If not - well you picked up where Harry left off, so it might as well be.) And no - I never audited a mutual fund as you insinuated previously, and even the firm you said was small is very large compared to the company I work at.

The footnotes are pages long - you said nothing about what it was exactly within those contents you thought were important - but I didn't see anything significant in them based on what I know of the Maura Murray case. But I most certainly can't say I know every name or degre of separation of the people that are from this case - or the impeached(?) Massachusetts(?) Connecticut(?) ex-governor.

This is exactly why I was upset when I asked you to explain before,(You haven't even here) then you basically said no.

It was then that I realized that you really didn't have any evidence of value. Just a hunch that I think to myself - if he only knew how ordinary I was - he'd be laughing at his question.

Here I was reading the financioal statement footnotes - I hoped that you might have something to offer. I should have known better because you were flooding the forum with various quotes, that as far as I could see, had nothing to do with the case - and you didn't bother to say what you thought important on any of them.

I answered your question here despite the fact of what happened before.

Thank you, Wowzer. I feel like we are making some real progress. When we who are really here to search for answers for Maura and her family can ignore the attempts to deflect attention, we can work together even if we disagree.

johneyonetime
“top editor bristol ”

Detective Columbo wrote:
Chris Gray-Murdered
Tom Conrad-Murdered
Al Powell-Murdered
Patric McCarthy-Murdered
Dionne Nelson-Missing
Maura Murray-Missing
Brianna Maitland-Missing
let them go let them go just forget them
EXCUSE YOU????????
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Firecat....

I did not write the last line under Brianna's name.

Dawn wrote:

Everyone - What I would really like to see is everyone coming together to try to bring attention to this case. Talking about crazy scenarios - does not bring her home. I have gone back through the thread and am really surprised - I just see theories - not actions on how we can get exposure. That really needs to be the focus. Even if we put our money where our mouth is and come up with a fund for Fred to search on the 5 year anniversary. This needs to go national and not half a day on CNN's website either. my 2 cents. Sometimes I think we forget what it would be like if this happened to YOUR family. I would go out of my mind with worry!!! Lets step it up.

Exposure to this case would be great. But I think many of the people who are posting on this forum are a result of exposure, so let's be thankful for them, too.

Here is the reason why talking about different scenarios, even the crazy ones, is helpful. First, the fact that a bunch of people on a topix forum are working on this puts pressure on LE to step it up. How embarrassing would that be for them if a group that didn't even have all of the puzzle pieces cracked this case?

Second, I think solving this is analogous to trying to put together a puzzle when you don't have all of the pieces (although LE probably has more pieces than we do). In order to put it together, you need to know what the picture looks like. We are guessing, based on the puzzle pieces, what the picture looks like. The more guesses, the more likely it is that we will come up with a picture that fits with all of the pieces that we have. So even if we are not able to solve this here, it may give LE more tools, more guesses as to what the final picture looks like, to go on.

Just a note to those having mud slung at them- although it is oh-so-hard to ignore the mud-slinger, ignoring them is really the meanest thing you can do to them. They throw mud cause they want to fight. Don't give em what they want.

Detective Columbo wrote:

I am not saying it has anything to do with Maura. I am just pointing out stuff that goes on here. It is possible that there is a connection though. Info learned in the past 5 yrs. has given insight into new leads. Let's see what happens.

This is good.

Everyone -- I've posted twice in the last couple of days that I've set up a private forum for discussion Maura's disappearance. There are advantages to such a forum -- searchable posts is a big one as we all know Topix is not searchable. Links and information such as the Timeline, photos of the Saturn, etc., all there in one place so we don't have to ask where to go to see this or that. I've promised to preserve poster anonymity so everyone can feel free to say what they want/need to say ... if posters are contributing nothing but spam, they'll be outta there.

I've seen some discussion over the last week or so about setting up other threads on Topix for pursuing specific aspects of Maura's case, and it seems to me that would be unwieldy to manage whereas different threads pursuing specific aspects in one forum are not difficult to manage. Thus far, though, I haven't seen any comments at all following up on my previous posts about the forum I set up -- so I don't know if the lack of comment means no one is interested, or whether my posts got lost in the stream, or whether somehow most of you are not even seeing them for some reason.

I'd like to know whether y'all are interested in a dedicated forum, as I'm not going to put more work into compiling resources and information if no one really wants that type of posting option.

It's not my nature to "push" anything onto anyone, so this is the last post I'll make about it unless folks are interested.

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