oo00oo
Murphysboro, IL
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Eurobserver wrote: Hello all, Apart from the wavering statements of the SBD there is, IMHO, nothing whatsoever that with any certainty nplaces Maura at the Weathered Barn, Swiftwater or anywhere else in NH for that matter. Considering the many inconsistencies in the witness statement of the SBD, the female driver of the Saturn could well have been someone who vaguely resembles Maura. This has been said here so many times previously, but it deserves to be said once more: The last publicly known, certain sighting of Maura was in Amherst, MA, by the witness who reportedly met Maura carrying a bag near the Kennedy Dorm. Whether the disputed ATM video from Amherst actually shows Maura or not is a matter of discussion. The conclusion remains the same: The last known, positive sighting of Maura was in Amherst, MA. Correct, why do you think this fact is being disregarded? Why is it not important?
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Joined: Jun 10, 2008
Comments: 320
Woonsocket, RI
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FireCat wrote: It might interest several people (or several names and one poster)(or both) to learn that, if one visits the UMass web site, it takes all of five minutes to find out where the Nursing Program has clinical affiliations. Guess what. ONE OF THEM IS IN NORWOOD. There is absolutely no reason to believe Maura was attending clinicals anywhere else, since the person who drove Maura was the one who provided this information. Take a look. They're listed alphabetically, so it's down the page a bit. ttp://www.umass.edu/nursing/pr ograms/affiliations.html those are the clinical affiliations for ALL campuses
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Wowzer
Franconia, NH
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citigirl wrote: <quoted text>Wowzer I agree there is something wrong with that site. I will not be going there either. Thank you citigirl for confirming there's something wrong. I've only been there twice over a week ago and haven't been there since. For each time I was there my spyware program displayed the name of the forum and said it was a low threat tracking cookie. I deleted it along with the other spyware that was found so I have nothing to show as proof as Ben wanted. I know there are many sites that have tracking cookies but this is the first time I've seen a named forum be the actual threat. Hope that makes sense.
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Joined: Jun 10, 2008
Comments: 320
Woonsocket, RI
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looking4amoose wrote: <quoted text>those are the clinical affiliations for ALL campuses So the person who drove Maura was the one who gave the information? So despite multiple people asking where exactly the clinicals were, and not getting a response, it was known. That's just ........ Do you not see how that information could be useful? So she was studying pediatrics at Norwood Hospital? Or was she studying pediatrics in Holyoke? Which site in Holyoke was she at? What's the track record for Norwood Hospital or the site in Holyoke with nursing students being followed? Stalked? Harassed?
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Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Comments: 503
Södertälje, Sweden
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oo00oo wrote: <quoted text> Correct, why do you think this fact is being disregarded? Why is it not important? ooOOoo, Why Amherst, MA, is being more or less ignored is a complete mystery to me. The fact that so many people in Amherst who must have come into contact with Maura while she was a student at UMass Amherst after nearly 5 years maintains a stony silence is indeed quite remarkable. And why is it that LE in NH and MA after nearly 5 years apparently is not divulging one single, new fact about Maura Murray´s disappearance? Why is it apparently deemed quite impossible for LE in either state to make some kind of public announcement as to whether Maura´s heartbreaking case is still being actively pursued by LE? Surely, it could in no way endanger the investigation as such to publicly state whether Maura´s case is still being regarded as an ongoing investigation. The deafening silence from all quarters is indeed quite amazing.
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oo00oo
Murphysboro, IL
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Eurobserver wrote: <quoted text> ooOOoo, Why Amherst, MA, is being more or less ignored is a complete mystery to me. The fact that so many people in Amherst who must have come into contact with Maura while she was a student at UMass Amherst after nearly 5 years maintains a stony silence is indeed quite remarkable. And why is it that LE in NH and MA after nearly 5 years apparently is not divulging one single, new fact about Maura Murray´s disappearance? Why is it apparently deemed quite impossible for LE in either state to make some kind of public announcement as to whether Maura´s heartbreaking case is still being actively pursued by LE? Surely, it could in no way endanger the investigation as such to publicly state whether Maura´s case is still being regarded as an ongoing investigation. The deafening silence from all quarters is indeed quite amazing. YES.Amazing & disturbing. BTW, Euro, I thought "Raykel" did not sign the guestbook at the church? If true, how do we know she spells her name that way? My apologies if I got the story screwed up.
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Joined: Jun 10, 2008
Comments: 320
Woonsocket, RI
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Eurobserver wrote: <quoted text> ooOOoo, Why Amherst, MA, is being more or less ignored is a complete mystery to me. The fact that so many people in Amherst who must have come into contact with Maura while she was a student at UMass Amherst after nearly 5 years maintains a stony silence is indeed quite remarkable. Apparently someone came forward to say that she drove with Maura to clinicals........
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Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Comments: 503
Södertälje, Sweden
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oo00oo wrote: <quoted text> YES.Amazing & disturbing. BTW, Euro, I thought "Raykel" did not sign the guestbook at the church? If true, how do we know she spells her name that way? My apologies if I got the story screwed up. Hello again, Your comment there regarding "Raykel" and the spelling of her name is highly interesting! I cannot immediately recall how on earth it was ascertained (or not....) that the mysterious "Raykel" did indeed spell her name in that particular fashion.... Considering that "Raquel" and other variations would be regarded as the more common spellings of that name it is strange how the particular spelling "Raykel" came to surface. It is my definite recollection that "Raykel" did not sign her name in the guestbook in the Barton, VT, church in question. At least, that is the official version being told, along with the complete discounting of the "Raykel" sighting by a highly esteemed member of the church congregation. This gentleman remarked on "Raykel´s" "unmistakable runners legs" and how she suddenly had taken off from the church when the minister started mentioning fathers in his sermon. The witness also remarked on how "Raykel" had seemed rather shy and sad. He also mentioned that she had a rather heavy foundation cream applied to her face despite having flawless skin. Again: How do we really inow that "Raykel" actually spelled her name "Raykel" and not e.g. "Raquel" if she did not in fact sign the guestbook in the church, as we have been led to believe. IIRC there was quite an effort being made on this forum some time in 2008 to contact the Barton, VT, church directly in order to verify whether the guestbook had been signed or not by "Raykel". IIRC a kind contributor to this forum took it upon herself to call the church directly. Her interest in the matter apparently caused the church to contact LE. The matter is apparently being treated very seriously indeed, despite this sighting having been officially discounted as being not of interest. I find this very strange indeed. And again: How do we "know" that "Raykel" did indeed spell her name "Raykel" if she did not sign the church guestbook?
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Sugar
Easthampton, MA
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peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote: <quoted text> Wally: Who owned the track medals? Or who won the track medals. Fred Tuttle.
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Sugar
Easthampton, MA
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peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote: <quoted text> Weeper stated that each and every siting of Maura was checked out, and these leads lead no where. I suspect that without a body being found the police are remiss to state that they believe Maura is dead or has met with foul play. However Weeper has stated emphatically that Maura's investigation at this point is a recovery operation. Also, the PI's and Law Enforcement would not have spend the time or monies searching the area in the woods if they had the slighest inking Maura was kidnapped and suffering from Stockholm Syndrome or if she ran away of her own free will, the investigation would have moved elsewhere. Unfortunately, Maura looks like many other people, no distinguishing facial features other than her beautiful teeth and dimples, her hair style and colouring are not notably distinctive. In southern Ireland, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, in Scotland, and in the Basque region of Spain there would be thousands and thousands of women who could be mistaken for Maura. It is the Southern Irish in her...that genetic trait is very strong, straight dark hair, fair complexion, tall and thin, with beautiful blue-green eyes. just my opinion Good points.
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oo00oo
Murphysboro, IL
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Eurobserver wrote: <quoted text> Hello again, Your comment there regarding "Raykel" and the spelling of her name is highly interesting! I cannot immediately recall how on earth it was ascertained (or not....) that the mysterious "Raykel" did indeed spell her name in that particular fashion.... Considering that "Raquel" and other variations would be regarded as the more common spellings of that name it is strange how the particular spelling "Raykel" came to surface. It is my definite recollection that "Raykel" did not sign her name in the guestbook in the Barton, VT, church in question. At least, that is the official version being told, along with the complete discounting of the "Raykel" sighting by a highly esteemed member of the church congregation. This gentleman remarked on "Raykel´s" "unmistakable runners legs" and how she suddenly had taken off from the church when the minister started mentioning fathers in his sermon. The witness also remarked on how "Raykel" had seemed rather shy and sad. He also mentioned that she had a rather heavy foundation cream applied to her face despite having flawless skin. Again: How do we really inow that "Raykel" actually spelled her name "Raykel" and not e.g. "Raquel" if she did not in fact sign the guestbook in the church, as we have been led to believe. IIRC there was quite an effort being made on this forum some time in 2008 to contact the Barton, VT, church directly in order to verify whether the guestbook had been signed or not by "Raykel". IIRC a kind contributor to this forum took it upon herself to call the church directly. Her interest in the matter apparently caused the church to contact LE. The matter is apparently being treated very seriously indeed, despite this sighting having been officially discounted as being not of interest. I find this very strange indeed. And again: How do we "know" that "Raykel" did indeed spell her name "Raykel" if she did not sign the church guestbook? Thank you for confirming the "possible" discrepancy. That has always been an odd story for me to comprehend.
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Sugar
Easthampton, MA
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peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote: Forgot to mention Eurobserver that same genetic trait as Maura's would be found in women in Boston area and New York were the Irish settled. I saw a woman in Habitant Nova Scotia who lived and worked at an American owned winery, I would have staked my life it was her, but knew better, it was not Maura. She could pass as her double. What about all those "people" near Cheticamp?
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Sugar
Easthampton, MA
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Wowzer wrote: It seems that either no one wants to answer my post #11782 from Jan 7th or it has been overlooked so I'll bring it up again. Even though I know many couldn't care less if I register to the new site or not I think it's important to explain why there is spyware coming from Advocator's new site to computers that frequent it and what it is tracking. Until this is answered I'll not be going there. Also it was brought to my attention that the PM's from this site that are supposed to be private are being forwarded to the PI's by some of the so called "team". So what's up with this new site because something sure right. No surprise. Same as their advising posters to compose their posts in MS Word before posting.
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citigirl
Bridgewater, MA
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Eurobserver wrote: Hello all, Apart from the wavering statements of the SBD there is, IMHO, nothing whatsoever that with any certainty nplaces Maura at the Weathered Barn, Swiftwater or anywhere else in NH for that matter. Considering the many inconsistencies in the witness statement of the SBD, the female driver of the Saturn could well have been someone who vaguely resembles Maura. This has been said here so many times previously, but it deserves to be said once more: The last publicly known, certain sighting of Maura was in Amherst, MA, by the witness who reportedly met Maura carrying a bag near the Kennedy Dorm. Whether the disputed ATM video from Amherst actually shows Maura or not is a matter of discussion. The conclusion remains the same: The last known, positive sighting of Maura was in Amherst, MA. according to the article in the JO the witness claimed to see Maura early Sunday morning. Problem with this witnesses statement is that Maura was not on campus Sunday morning. She was with her father until he dropped her off Sunday afternoon.
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Sugar
Easthampton, MA
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oo00oo wrote: <quoted text> Hometown in Massachusetts? Same difference a couple hundred years ago.
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citigirl
Bridgewater, MA
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Eurobserver wrote: <quoted text> Hello again, Your comment there regarding "Raykel" and the spelling of her name is highly interesting! I cannot immediately recall how on earth it was ascertained (or not....) that the mysterious "Raykel" did indeed spell her name in that particular fashion.... Considering that "Raquel" and other variations would be regarded as the more common spellings of that name it is strange how the particular spelling "Raykel" came to surface. It is my definite recollection that "Raykel" did not sign her name in the guestbook in the Barton, VT, church in question. At least, that is the official version being told, along with the complete discounting of the "Raykel" sighting by a highly esteemed member of the church congregation. This gentleman remarked on "Raykel´s" "unmistakable runners legs" and how she suddenly had taken off from the church when the minister started mentioning fathers in his sermon. The witness also remarked on how "Raykel" had seemed rather shy and sad. He also mentioned that she had a rather heavy foundation cream applied to her face despite having flawless skin. Again: How do we really inow that "Raykel" actually spelled her name "Raykel" and not e.g. "Raquel" if she did not in fact sign the guestbook in the church, as we have been led to believe. IIRC there was quite an effort being made on this forum some time in 2008 to contact the Barton, VT, church directly in order to verify whether the guestbook had been signed or not by "Raykel". IIRC a kind contributor to this forum took it upon herself to call the church directly. Her interest in the matter apparently caused the church to contact LE. The matter is apparently being treated very seriously indeed, despite this sighting having been officially discounted as being not of interest. I find this very strange indeed. And again: How do we "know" that "Raykel" did indeed spell her name "Raykel" if she did not sign the church guestbook? maybe the church got sick of the phone calls.
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citigirl
Bridgewater, MA
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FireCat wrote: It might interest several people (or several names and one poster)(or both) to learn that, if one visits the UMass web site, it takes all of five minutes to find out where the Nursing Program has clinical affiliations. Guess what. ONE OF THEM IS IN NORWOOD. There is absolutely no reason to believe Maura was attending clinicals anywhere else, since the person who drove Maura was the one who provided this information. Take a look. They're listed alphabetically, so it's down the page a bit. ttp://www.umass.edu/nursing/pr ograms/affiliations.html thank you Firecat. If I remember correctly a poster had stated that they would not send some one that far away to do there clinicals.
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Joined: Oct 16, 2008
Comments: 320
Modesto, CA
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Snowy White has some information, can't tell us what it is, but believes its not relevant to the case - and although we thought it might be, I think it isn't either now - whatever it is - I don't know or want to know. This whole thing is unsolvable and therefore unproductive - and a roll playing paranoia parade to boot. So yes Tampa - time is better spent elsewhere. For that I do thank you.
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citigirl
Bridgewater, MA
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looking4amoose wrote: <quoted text>So the person who drove Maura was the one who gave the information? So despite multiple people asking where exactly the clinicals were, and not getting a response, it was known. That's just ........ Do you not see how that information could be useful? So she was studying pediatrics at Norwood Hospital? Or was she studying pediatrics in Holyoke? Which site in Holyoke was she at? What's the track record for Norwood Hospital or the site in Holyoke with nursing students being followed? Stalked? Harassed? it had already been stated long ago that Maura's clinicals were at Holyoke and Norwood.
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Sugar
Northampton, MA
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If you want some answers, start asking people involved in the Rowland corruption scandal.
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