Where is MAURA MURRAY

con't Nursing School liability

While at Nursing School, we had a policy for life and limb and injury insurance, the Nurses Registry of Nova Scotia had an additional poligy for liability if we caused bodily injury or harm to a patient, the Nurses Registry is the goverance re; liability, and presumably the hospital has policies as well. The same should apply for the U of Mass, you might check the Nurses Registry of Mass and the University.
We did not have to travel, and during the Psychiatric rotation, we were given free room and board, however, this was a Government sponsored Diploma programme, we had a home base and lived in a residence, we only had to travel three blocks, for Obstectrics, Pediatrics, and the Surgical and Medical rotations were completed at our home hospital, and the Psych. rotation as mentioned. However Nursing Students from all over the Province had to go to the same Psych hospital, University and Dipolma Programmes. All Government sponsored dipomla programmes no longer exist. We were paid,$25.00 per month, and everything was for free, programme closed, 1990, thereabouts.

The Dalhousie University Nursing Department in Halifax, N.S. sends their students great distances
the lenght and breth of Nova Scotia, distances are mindboggling, very expensive and stressful for the students.

hi Citigirl and all, do you know the mechanical condition of the saturn before it left Amherst.I asked about the last oil change which would show mileage, where it was done , how it was paid for and i was told it was not important.if it was done in Amherst was Maura on someones mailing list and they knew where she lived.Did mrAtwoods ladyfriend know about the accident from listening to the scanner before mrAtwood told her.Who else wiyh a scanner could have heard that a young lady was stuck in a snow bank.Whilst i am on it.At the time of Mauras accident [going from memory here]there was a problem with the radio system and the town or P.D were sharing a system could this account for any time loss in the transmission .I am trying to find an article about it.Take care philip

requirements for school of nursing

NOTIFICATION OF ADMISSION STATUS
1. Students will be notified by mail of their admission decision. Please allow eight weeks after the
deadline date for decisions to be made.
2. Applicants who are admitted to the RN-BS Track must provide the School of Nursing with
documentation of the following:
Physical exam within the past 6 months
TB skin test within the past 12 months
Adult, infant and child CPR certification, current
Hepatitis B Immunization (3 doses)
Measles, Mumps, Rubella immunization/positive titer
Positive varicella titer or 2 immunizations
Tetanus/diptheria (td) within the last 10 years
Health insurance
Student Nurse Medical Malpractice Insurance

Student health insurance plan is a requirement of the U of Mass,unless you have similar health insurance, very expensive

National student nurses association is also required, malpractice insurance, not too expensive

criminal check is required for clinical
All clinical attendance is MANDATORY
Strict uniform requirements

Academic Honesty

Observance of Good Moral Code Policy

Code of Conduct

transportation to and from clinical own responsibility cost per year $700-$1,400
(presumably also, car insurance would cover
accidents, and traveling insurance necessary for beyond 20 miles distance from work)

clinical are days, nights, evenings, week-ends
7 days a week

Maura was taking either course 398 F or 326 parent/child which are both clinicals

*health and car insurance which is required by the University and operators of vehicles is
mandatory, therefore, student nurses would be covered if they got in an accident or injured on route, and or while at clincials

This informaiton can be found on the University Mass Site, Nursing, the url is too long to copy here on one line. I have just spent the last 3 hours researching insurance and academic, moral, behavioral, academic requirements for this school

this information should solve the discussion on whether the University would send someone a great distance, a $1,400 per annum cost per year says that the students go far afield.

One begins to get a glimpse of how tired and stressed Maura might have felt due to the arduous demands of a nursing programme. Also, passing acedemically does not get you a degree in Nursing, one must pass all the clinicals, much of which has nothing to do with marks, but personality, behavior, performance and alibilty to follow the codes and policies of the hospital as well as the codes and standards set by Nursing i.e confidentiality.

As previously mentioned most of the nursing students in my class did not fail exams, even though the grade was 75, a B, but rather failed to meet the clincial standards.

also, passing clinicals and University requirements does not guarantee a Registered Nurse
designation, this is a separate examination....

lots of hoops to jump before one gets a R.N. license

I'm having an anxiety attack remembering all the hoops and loops, shutter to remember!!!!!!!!

Jeff wrote:

<quoted text>I'd describe this comment as being straight from Hell, but that would be too kind.

Completely agree with your reply to Mason at #12324.

Same person who refers to Fred as a "jerk".
Same person who claims to have suffered a personal loss...and, at some level, may be compassionate? Doubtful.

With admittedly few established facts to work from, Mason is left to ponder, judge and accuse.

Mason wrote:

This is the beginning of a multiple post explaining why I don't believe Maura was murdered. It's in addition to my message #12286, at p. 610.
The most probable explanations for Maura's disappearance are she committed suicide or she started a new life. I don't believe we have enough evidence to choose between these alternative explanations because we lack sufficient evidence of her intent and state of mind when she left Amherst. The rest of my post was a convoluted argument leading to an unstated conclusion that she likely was not a victim of foul play, but if she was, the most probable explanation would have been a road rage encounter rather than a random encounter with Joe the Serial Killer.
I basically backed into the road rage idea after I asked myself what might have happened, if the time between the accident and the W's call to 911 were shortened down to less than five minutes. This would allow for the possibility of someone, whether friend or foe, following her with the SBD between them because the SBD is the first vehicle to arrive at the scene after the accident. I don't believe it's possible that anyone was following her if the accident happened a few minutes after 7 as the Ws claim because such a person would have been 30 minutes behind Maura.

I've previously mentioned road rage on Topix in conjunction with her trip north...and suggested possible contact with a stranger along the interstate or at a rest stop...while linking to a similar occurrence in MA. Not a new concept, except as applied to location.

Really, no one knows from the myriad of possibilities what happened to Maura. How often must this be stated?

Regrettably, it is doubtful that any additional information brought forward and pertaining to Maura's emotional and psychological state in Amherst could be rationally and respectfully handled by amateurs online. Look at the bulk of these 12,000 comments as proof.

Such sensitive information is better managed by authorities working the formal investigation, IMO...and one would assume it to have already been received and considered in the course of 5 years.

Mason wrote:

Part 6
Maybe the SBD saw the vehicle that Maura entered; maybe he didn't.
Maybe he recognized the driver; maybe he didn't.
We know he has provided some conflicting statements, but we don't know why.
His conflicting statements don't prove he's an accessory to murder. LE should do everything it can to clear this up.
In the meantime, I'm going to turn my focus back to Amherst to determine, if possible, Maura's intent and state of mind when she left.

ITA Mason. I always felt that in the event that Maura was in the Saturn that she either started a new life or committed suicide. I never bought the abduction from crash site theory because like you said it has too many parts. I was just never able to put it into words like you. Thanks for doing that. In my mind, in the event that Maura was in the Saturn or not, there are questions regarding Amherst that need to be answered. Period.

FireCat wrote:

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My. How helpful. And how accurate.
Not.
Do you know for a FACT that Fred didn't accompany Maura to school? That she rode in the tow truck and he went home? If so, where did you come across this alleged fact? Or are you just out there bashing Fred for no apparent reason with statements that have absolutely no truth to them whatsoever?
The reason the car went back to campus at all was so they could use it for some sort of trade in; they made plans to go car shopping, which they did the weekend she disappeared. My recollection is that Maura rode WITH FRED IN THE COROLLA back to campus, piggy-backing the tow truck. That is what I recall hearing from Helena.
IN THE MEANTIME, Maura was getting a ride from someone else to Norwood.
FRED WAS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE FOR NEW AND SAFE TRANSPORTATION FOR HIS DAUGHTER. To say anything otherwise is absolutely ridiculous. He did more than most parents would probably do. Most parents would probably just leave her old car sitting in the driveway. Fred went to the extra trouble of getting it back to campus so that it could either be repaired or traded in.
Where is this other ridiculous business coming from, Mason? I mean, other than your extremely vivid imagination.

FireCat, your answers seem to indicate that you are "in the know" about things that the rest of us aren't. But I'm willing to bet that you have no more knowledge of what the facts are than Mason or anyone else.

FireCat wrote:

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Of course you have. Many times. I've seen them. But many people have selective memory about these sorts of things.
I was particularly amused by the alleged 95% bash rate of locals. Mmm-hmm. You bet.

Correction FireCat. I said that 95% of the conversation on this forum in some way or another (either directly or indirectly) implicated the locals in a crime, coverup, conspiracy, or negligence. It does. End of story.

Weeper and Columbo have not needed or desired to resort to name-calling, as in "jerk".
Mason, your bias is evident...and your credibility is diminished by your own words.

BTW, I have a friend who is a PI that knows for a FACT that FM is a jerk. He is willing to meet with anyone at the Dunkin Donuts in Columbine Valley CO on Feb 9 to show you his gun, a slide show, and his credentials. This will prove once and for all that FM is a jerk and finally put this whole thing to rest.

Snowy White wrote:

Weeper and Columbo have not needed or desired to resort to name-calling, as in "jerk".
Mason, your bias is evident...and your credibility is diminished by your own words.

But you see, the big difference here is that Mason never let's on that he knows anything for a fact. He speculates and forms an opinion. His credibility is not diminished by his words. You're wrong.

FireCat wrote:

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My. How helpful. And how accurate.
Not.
Do you know for a FACT that Fred didn't accompany Maura to school? That she rode in the tow truck and he went home? If so, where did you come across this alleged fact? Or are you just out there bashing Fred for no apparent reason with statements that have absolutely no truth to them whatsoever?
The reason the car went back to campus at all was so they could use it for some sort of trade in; they made plans to go car shopping, which they did the weekend she disappeared. My recollection is that Maura rode WITH FRED IN THE COROLLA back to campus, piggy-backing the tow truck. That is what I recall hearing from Helena.
IN THE MEANTIME, Maura was getting a ride from someone else to Norwood.
FRED WAS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE FOR NEW AND SAFE TRANSPORTATION FOR HIS DAUGHTER. To say anything otherwise is absolutely ridiculous. He did more than most parents would probably do. Most parents would probably just leave her old car sitting in the driveway. Fred went to the extra trouble of getting it back to campus so that it could either be repaired or traded in.
Where is this other ridiculous business coming from, Mason? I mean, other than your extremely vivid imagination.

Why go to all the trouble to tow the car? Why not just get the new car where she was with Fred so she could drive it back to school?

propaganda firetruck wrote:

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But you see, the big difference here is that Mason never let's on that he knows anything for a fact. He speculates and forms an opinion. His credibility is not diminished by his words. You're wrong.

I don't mind being wrong, but my perceptions are most often right. I do that quite well.

Sara wrote:

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Why go to all the trouble to tow the car? Why not just get the new car where she was with Fred so she could drive it back to school?

Yes, why not trade in the Saturn for a newer car before the spring semester begins?

Snowy White wrote:

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I don't mind being wrong, but my perceptions are most often right. I do that quite well.

meaning that you are gifted beyond a resonable doubt?

what are you perceptions regarding the driver of the Saturn at the location of the WB? Was it Maura?

truth wrote:

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Yes, why not trade in the Saturn for a newer car before the spring semester begins?

Maybe her claims regarding the condition of the car were inaccurate. Maybe it was fine. Maybe FM didn't want to trade in the car because he thought nothing was wrong with it. Just speculation.

propaganda firetruck wrote:

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Maybe her claims regarding the condition of the car were inaccurate. Maybe it was fine. Maybe FM didn't want to trade in the car because he thought nothing was wrong with it. Just speculation.

Fred had said many times he was going to buy her a new car. He made a separate trip to Amherst just to buy her another car, but they bought nothing before he left for CT. I doubt with all this talk about buying a new car that he thought the car was fine.

propaganda firetruck wrote:

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meaning that you are gifted beyond a resonable doubt?
what are you perceptions regarding the driver of the Saturn at the location of the WB? Was it Maura?

I make no claims to "drawing pictures in my mind" as one claims to here, nor do I dabble in astrology, numerology, or any other ....ologys, as others may here.

I didn't say gifted, you did.

The perceptions referenced are limited to and based upon the evidence of observable and demonstrated behaviors, words (written and spoken) and actions.
All are useful in combination with the presence and/or absence of body language.
Is that not how we communicate as human beings?
Perception. Look it up.

Unlike Mason and his loosely connected team of forensic jockeys here, I do not make claims as to know Maura's whereabouts. I wasn't a witness.

Fred Murray and Maura Murray have not posted here...there is a paucity of FACTUAL information available from which to draw conclusions...really, just speculation and rumor.

How, then, does Mason know Fred is a jerk?
And why would he go ahead and embellish upon that statement with implications for Fred's "less-than" parenting?

I think I know a real jerk when I see one.

Snowy White wrote:

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I make no claims to "drawing pictures in my mind" as one claims to here, nor do I dabble in astrology, numerology, or any other ....ologys, as others may here.
I didn't say gifted, you did.
The perceptions referenced are limited to and based upon the evidence of observable and demonstrated behaviors, words (written and spoken) and actions.
All are useful in combination with the presence and/or absence of body language.
Is that not how we communicate as human beings?
Perception. Look it up.
Unlike Mason and his loosely connected team of forensic jockeys here, I do not make claims as to know Maura's whereabouts. I wasn't a witness.
Fred Murray and Maura Murray have not posted here...there is a paucity of FACTUAL information available from which to draw conclusions...really, just speculation and rumor.
How, then, does Mason know Fred is a jerk?
And why would he go ahead and embellish upon that statement with implications for Fred's "less-than" parenting?
I think I know a real jerk when I see one.

Ah, Snowy White, you are a gem. Sometimes you are an unrelenting truth teller and sometimes you sit in your high chair like a big baby. You're obtuse notion of what is right and wrong is like riding the small hand propelled merry-go-round in a rusty playground. It might seem like a good idea, but then you get to puking afterwards and going to the hospital for a tetnus shot.

Mason never said FM was a jerk. I did. Mason actually called FM, and I quote "a great dad!" If you don't believe me, go look it up, since were gettin on a encyclopedia kick here.