Beagle
Amherst, MA
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sophie bean wrote: Regarding "Just to get Louise Chaput out of the way... " I'd love to be able to regard that as "merely" a horribly poor choice of words. Then why don't you? Really, state EXACTLY why you do not regard it as merely a poor choice of words.
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FireCat
United States
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Beagle wrote: any reasonable person would readily and unmistakably understand. Ah, but there's always a catch, isn't there.
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Shack
Mansfield, MA
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Anne, I agree (about SB and LG)...basic rationality...no mystery crap, taking up space.
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Lady Gray
Austin, TX
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Christina said: "So much fruitless speculation re the MM case. So many questions. The original MMM forum was a hotbed of guesses, speculation, queries, leaps of logic. So many of the questions could be answered by Helena just picking up the phone and calling Fred. Never did she do this. Why was she so afraid to communicate with him? Instead it was just hash and rehash over and over again." So, Christina (Alden) posts what she(he) does above and "sets up" for a response by Beagle (Alden). I was sitting here waiting for the response and "bingo!" here 'tis: Beagle wrote: <quoted text> Neither she nor anyone else had ever even met Maura Murray. There seem to be two definitions of "family." One is Maura Murray's immediate family. The other is an extended family of some kind. Occassionally, someone will say that she is a close friend of the family, but this is a little hazy. What part of Maura Murray's family is she a close friend of? And for how long? A close friend since February 9, 2004? Trying to create discord......
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peripeteia
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Christina wrote: So much fruitless speculation re the MM case. So many questions. The original MMM forum was a hotbed of guesses, speculation, queries, leaps of logic. So many of the questions could be answered by Helena just picking up the phone and calling Fred. Never did she do this. Why was she so afraid to communicate with him? Instead it was just hash and rehash over and over again. How quaint another to join the party of victimizing the victims, lots here on the forum that are cut from the same cloth. Down with the chorus! go away, go very far away, you humiliate Maura, you humiliate all who read, but from now on, I read no more of the trashing and bashing of Maura and others who desire nothing more than to be hepful and work tiredlessly to that end. Has anyone used the words, Shut UP! YET? By the way to my neighbours to the South, Congratulations on the Swearing in of President Obama, God Speed the ushering of a new area.
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peripeteia
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great news many of our posts are coming up on the google search engine on first page of important related news worthy articles. Will erase my internet history and try again. No trouble to find a mulitude of articles from here on topix, by searching topics; didn't find anything too off base, it seems the trash doesn't make it to the search engines and other than painfully being here for us to read, search engines go directly to posts and much of the gargage must get lost in cyberland recycle bin.
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peripeteia
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erased temporary internet files and Browsing history on my computer, and without using Maura's name and referring only a related news item, the post from this site came up on page three. good night all.
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Beagle
Holyoke, MA
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Beagle wrote: Just theoretically here... If one person were (1) known to have frequented and been very familiar with and had access to the area where Bish's body was found at the time of her disappearance,(2) was known to be in Jackson, NH at the time Chaput was killed, and (3) resembles the "person of interest" in the sketch on the Bish website, would this person be worth a closer look? Or is that an example of six degrees of separation? Here's a challenge to Lady Gray, Firecat, Sophie Bean, Elsewherebriefly, and Shack. Please answer the above question. Thank you.
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Beagle
Holyoke, MA
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Beagle wrote: Theorizing that there is a connection between the Bish and Murray disappearances should be regarded as potentially helpful, not diversionary. To say a theory is diversionary is to strongly imply, if not actually state, that the diversionary theory is known to be false to its presenting poster and it represents a deliberate attempt to delay or otherwise interfere with the discovery of why Maura Murray disappeared. Or that it at least represents an attempt to knowingly and deliberately interfere with the expression of others on this thread. So here's your chance to step up to the plate and spit it out in plain English. State in clear, UNAMBIGUOUS terms what, EXACTLY AND FULLY, what you think the purpose of presenting a "diversionary" theory is. Why would a poster post such a "diversionary" theory? Remember, no beating around the bush. No inside jokes or snide remarks. Just straight out answers that any reasonable person would readily and unmistakably understand. Sophie Bean, Anne, and anyone else who cares to, please answer the above question. Thank you.
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Beagle
Holyoke, MA
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Lady Gray - How about answering posts 12860 and 12862?
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Beagle
Holyoke, MA
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Do a little research: Q: How many human eggs are required to successfully yield a cloned human emybryo? A: Hundreds. Q: How difficult is it to find these human eggs. A: Very difficult. Q: What bio-tech company was the first to announce the successful cloning of a human embryo? A: Advanced Cell Technology (ACT) of Worcester, Massachusetts. Q: What is one method ACT used to acquire those human eggs? A: ACT hired an RV style vehicle to cruise the roads of central and western Massachusetts in search of egg donors. Q: Where did Molly Bish live? A: Warren, MA. Q: How far is Warren, MA from Worcester, MA? A: About 25 miles.
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Beagle
Holyoke, MA
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But do you think Joe Early, Jr. would ever even think of naming, much less prosecuting, a company like Advanced Cell Technology of Worcester, Massachusetts if ACT were the beneficiary, knowingly or unknowingly, of the illegal acquisition of human eggs? There is a very fine distinction between acquiring Human Growth Hormone from "donated" pituitary glands and acquiring human eggs. A good hunter knows the interior body of his prey as well as he knows the exterior. A good deer hunter can tell you where all the deer's organs are, where all the tendons and various muscles are, where the good meat is and where all the other useful parts of the deer are.
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Beagle
Holyoke, MA
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Lady Gray's idea of discord: disagreement.
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Beagle
Holyoke, MA
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Anne wrote: ...when will you stop diverting this thread? Anne: When will you stop diverting this thread with your witch's bag of lies and deceit?
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gvmeabrk
Weare, NH
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Judged:
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Welcome back Lady Gray.
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peripeteia
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sofie and lady grey welcome
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Beagle
United States
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Detective Columbo - If one person were (1) known to have frequented and been very familiar with and had access to the area where Bish's body was found at the time of her disappearance,(2) was known to be in Jackson, NH at the time Chaput was killed, and (3) resembles the "person of interest" in the sketch on the Bish website, would this person be worth a closer look?
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“beauty ~ nature ~ the roar”
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Comments: 643
Danvers, MA
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Beagle wrote: But do you think Joe Early, Jr. would ever even think of naming, much less prosecuting, a company like Advanced Cell Technology of Worcester, Massachusetts if ACT were the beneficiary, knowingly or unknowingly, of the illegal acquisition of human eggs? There is a very fine distinction between acquiring Human Growth Hormone from "donated" pituitary glands and acquiring human eggs. A good hunter knows the interior body of his prey as well as he knows the exterior. A good deer hunter can tell you where all the deer's organs are, where all the tendons and various muscles are, where the good meat is and where all the other useful parts of the deer are. Good Morbid Morning, Beagle ~ Just thinkin'... Are you philosophically/religiously/in tellectually/ethically or otherwise firmly opposed to biomedical research...which, of course, is well represented in MA. Are you a right to life advocate? Are you willing/able to take this information about Advanced Cell Technology elsewhere for consideration and action if you believe it to be true? Given Maura has not been found, your theories are no more or less valid than others. You may be a brilliant and courageous citizen investigator...or just a tortured soul with a vivid imagination. I don't know.
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“beauty ~ nature ~ the roar”
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Comments: 643
Danvers, MA
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Beagle (and many more)~ Are you currently, or were you formerly a scientist?
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Beagle
United States
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Beagle wrote: Do a little research: Q: How many human eggs are required to successfully yield a cloned human emybryo? A: Hundreds. Q: How difficult is it to find these human eggs. A: Very difficult. Q: What bio-tech company was the first to announce the successful cloning of a human embryo? A: Advanced Cell Technology (ACT) of Worcester, Massachusetts. Q: What is one method ACT used to acquire those human eggs? A: ACT hired an RV style vehicle to cruise the roads of central and western Massachusetts in search of egg donors. Q: Where did Molly Bish live? A: Warren, MA. Q: How far is Warren, MA from Worcester, MA? A: About 25 miles. Q: When did ACT announce the first cloning of a human embryo? A: Autumn, 2001. Q: When did Molly Bish disappear? A: June, 2000.
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