Where is MAURA MURRAY

Nitey night everyone. Big day's almost here. I'm a little nervous, but I think it will go all right. Later gators.

Christina wrote:

The new MM forum is excellent. People can actually contribute new and refreshing ideas without having to adhere to 'the party line.' It was designed by Advocate4. Do read her 'Food For Thought' as an example of something that Helena would never allow to be said and as an example of something that will give Lady Grey coniptions.

And that notion!, is as off the wall as many here, and Helena never once sensored anything I ever said, perhaps because I said them politely, but if you were as rude as your are now, nothing then is left to the imagination of how nasty you are. That takes no leap of the imagination to figure. No wild card there

Peri for Heaven's sake what does infatima mean? It is not in any dictionary. And how did Christina humiliate Maura? To say she did so is crazy talk. All she said is that Helena refused to ask Fred questions that he could have so easily answered. Maybe you should be the one to be told to go away.

Helena never censored me. I posted very little and only when I thought I could contribute something. I am a very busy person and I don't spend all day and all night on the boards like you do Peri. What little I did post was greeted with praise.

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, okay, if you don't want to engage my certain personality type on an intellectual basis, I completely understand. Really, I do. Intellectual bases can get boring fast. But if you'd like another personality type, just let me know. I'm sure I can find one somewhere. Oh, dahling, I know, how about Zsa Zsa Gabor?

Ha--ok, I guess I asked for that one.....!

Christina wrote:

Lady Grey, no I am not Alden. I do not know who Alden is. Yesterday was the first time I ever posted here. I remember you Lady Grey from Helena's forum. You were a Helena worshipper, you were a Fred worshipper. Helena's forum had strict rules. If you followed these rules you would be accepted as one of the inner circle. The rules were simple. 1.LE is bad. 2.SBD is bad 3.CW is bad. 4.Helena is a saint. 5.Fred is a saint. 6.Maura is a saint. 7.Do no attempt to direct the discussion toward what happened in Amherst. If you do not follow these rules, you are bashed and/or denigrated and /or censored.

Oh god. Here we go again. The full moon was two weeks ago, where is this all coming from?

FireCat wrote:

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BUT, all other things being equal,
If I were a law enforcement professional, and I had GOOD reason, including but perhaps not limited to the above? Yes, I might well investigate this person. But that's conjecture, because (a) I'm not a law enforcement professional, and (b) I don't have a good reason. I'm not sure that the reasons you've listed are good enough--for the reasons listed above which hopefully will be clear to you.

That work for ya?

Obviously, that's not working for you, but it's the only answer I've got. You asked hypothetically, I answered hypothetically.

Dawn wrote:

Make sense? Otherwise it is just random - very random mind you, speculation! I just do not see it possible for all of these "theories" to be related to the Murray case as stated above - from ROID rage, stealing eggs, water purification plants and model trains. How on earth could those all be connected - and don't forget the person of power that is linked to the govenor.

Then why keep mentioning it?

http://kstp.com/article/stories/s421846.shtml...

Two retired police officers have unveiled the connection of numerous murders in the States
originally attributed to drowning. Although off
topic, the whole concept of what their investigation has revealed gives credit to these
devoted men who uphold the law, and they have volunteered their services, such as the voluntary PI'S and Dectectives investigating Maura.

The 'smiley face murders' takes on new meaning of evil, as it seems these murders may have been orchestrated by a group, and not necessarily located in one area, but across the United States, and I am sure Canada will be looking into their unsolves murders in a different light.

This begs the question if this groups' mayhem is limited to killing men, perhaps they are responsible for killing women and children?

peripeteia wrote:

http://kstp.com/article/storie s/s421846.shtml?v=1
Two retired police officers have unveiled the connection of numerous murders in the States
originally attributed to drowning. Although off
topic, the whole concept of what their investigation has revealed gives credit to these
devoted men who uphold the law, and they have volunteered their services, such as the voluntary PI'S and Dectectives investigating Maura.
The 'smiley face murders' takes on new meaning of evil, as it seems these murders may have been orchestrated by a group, and not necessarily located in one area, but across the United States, and I am sure Canada will be looking into their unsolves murders in a different light.
This begs the question if this groups' mayhem is limited to killing men, perhaps they are responsible for killing women and children?

http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S426824.s...

adam falcon's death at st. lawrence university in canton, ny has been loosely tied to the smiley-faced murders.
however,i'm not so quick to jump on the bandwagon of serial murderers.
i am quite familiar with SLU, the students and campus life. hardly a destination for crime/murder, i'd be surprised if adam's death is related to anything but typical overdrinking...possibly fraternity related.

it would be interesting to profile the profilers....PI's and detectives...bet you'd find a habitual need to jump to "conspiracy" before validating what is obvious.
i still resist the tying together of murders and the missing in NH over a period of 30 years to bring forward a reason for Maura's disappearance.
this is merely my opinion.

Snowy White,

Regarding the PI's working Maura's investigation. I'm pretty certain a retired New Hampshire State Trooper was the one who initially reiterated the person(s) responsible for Maura's disappearance has done it before and will do it again on MMM.

The opinion of someone who has been aware and has possibly worked the numbers of missing persons and unsolved homicides cases along the NH/VT borders over the past decades is one that should not be dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

He also stated something else that has stayed with me. I made it a point to confirm both of his statements just before MMM shut down.

I posted that other statement on this forum just once and that's enough in my opinion.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Snowy White,
Regarding the PI's working Maura's investigation. I'm pretty certain a retired New Hampshire State Trooper was the one who initially reiterated the person(s) responsible for Maura's disappearance has done it before and will do it again on MMM.
The opinion of someone who has been aware and has possibly worked the numbers of missing persons and unsolved homicides cases along the NH/VT borders over the past decades is one that should not be dismissed as a conspiracy theory.
He also stated something else that has stayed with me. I made it a point to confirm both of his statements just before MMM shut down.
I posted that other statement on this forum just once and that's enough in my opinion.

and that is his professional opinion.
but no one is obligated to believe it.

Snowy White wrote:

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and that is his professional opinion.
but no one is obligated to believe it.

No, at this point quite a few professionals are in agreement about the same opinion.

The person(s) responsible for Maura's disappearance has done it before and will do it again.

I am grateful to each and every single one of these professionals for volunteering their time and expertise in helping to find Maura and bringing the person(s) to justice.

elsewherebriefly ~

Meredith Emerson's murder may support a theory about a serial killer, if eventually confirmed, although I am inclined to believe this is the exception rather than the rule.

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx...

She, also, was an accomplished, beautiful and beloved young woman...a hiker/athlete and skilled in SELF-DEFENSE, no less.

her horrible death was a CHANCE ENCOUNTER with a 61 year old drifter.

The stories are the same all over the country--an athletic, intelligent, well-liked college student goes missing.
"I think it is a serial killer, but not one individual. I would just say, a group of individuals, probably located in more than one state," Duarte said, adding that he thinks they may kill again.

Over the past five years I've come across a number of cases up and down the Eastern Seaboard that confirm the work of serial killer.

According to FBI stats there are 30+ serial killers at large as I write here in the United States.

One of whom has left the bodies of (2) of his victims right in Wilmington North Carolina. It was determined through forensics that the bodies were placed exactly one year apart from one another.

WHEREAS, concurrently with the execution and delivery of this Agreement, ACT, Hematech and the University of Massachusetts/Amherst (“UMass”) are entering into various agreements and amendments to existing agreements relating to the licensing and sublicensing of certain technology that is relevant to respective businesses of ACT and Hematech; and

ABOVE FROM:http://www.secinfo.com/d1 1MXs.zxd8.1p.htm

UMass, ACT, and Hematech. Hmmmm...

I suspect that the raising of any potentially embarrassing questions about or criticisms of the UMass/ACT/Hematech trinity will be viewed in routine suspicious fashion by the Pioneer Valley Joint Terrorism Task Force and certain members of the UMass PD.

After all, the FBI and other government investigative agencies have a long, irrefutable record of closely - very closely - monitoring the activities of those who criticize various government connected groups and businesses. Especially since the vast majority of the money behind companies like this comes from the Defense Department and the Department of Homeland Security.

The U.S. is a comparatively free country, a country I love very much, but there's always room for improvement.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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No, at this point quite a few professionals are in agreement about the same opinion.
The person(s) responsible for Maura's disappearance has done it before and will do it again.
I am grateful to each and every single one of these professionals for volunteering their time and expertise in helping to find Maura and bringing the person(s) to justice.

Why does s/he or why do they do it?

peripeteia wrote:

http://kstp.com/article/storie s/s421846.shtml?v=1
Two retired police officers have unveiled the connection of numerous murders in the States
originally attributed to drowning. Although off
topic, the whole concept of what their investigation has revealed gives credit to these
devoted men who uphold the law, and they have volunteered their services, such as the voluntary PI'S and Dectectives investigating Maura.
The 'smiley face murders' takes on new meaning of evil, as it seems these murders may have been orchestrated by a group, and not necessarily located in one area, but across the United States, and I am sure Canada will be looking into their unsolves murders in a different light.
This begs the question if this groups' mayhem is limited to killing men, perhaps they are responsible for killing women and children?

Press Release
For Immediate Release
April 29, 2008
Washington D.C.
FBI National Press Office

FBI Statement Regarding Midwest River Deaths
"Over the past several years, law enforcement and the FBI have received information about young, college-aged men who were found deceased in rivers in the Midwest. The FBI has reviewed the information about the victims provided by two retired police detectives, who have dubbed these incidents the “Smiley Face Murders,” and interviewed an individual who provided information to the detectives. To date, we have not developed any evidence to support links between these tragic deaths or any evidence substantiating the theory that these deaths are the work of a serial killer or killers. The vast majority of these instances appear to be alcohol-related drownings. The FBI will continue to work with the local police in the affected areas to provide support as requested,” said Supervisory Special Agent Richard J. Kolko, Washington, D.C.
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Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Why does s/he or why do they do it?

Although I am fairly certain you are going to counter my post with some sordid and sinister conspiracy theory there are good people in this world. Good people putting forth a sincere and genuine effort in the hope of possibly making a positive and meaningful difference.

I am ashamed by the fact that you've attempted to discount and discredit what good has come out of both Maura's & Molly's tragic circumstances.

You are more interested in announcing how excited you are about the Feb 9th meeting at Dunkin Donuts, which I'm sure you are not even going to show up, rather than acknowledging it is the 5th anniversary of Maura's tragic disappearance.

The missing persons here in America do not get the attention they deserve and you've done a bang up job turning a forum as sacred as this one into a three ring circus.