Where is MAURA MURRAY

Elswhere - I agree. This should be about finding Maura.

Although - I think we do get an occassional chuckle from "oh many one's post. I think a new forum for that should be started. When the conversations are going back and forth between one person - beagle - and the holy rollers and other religous folk from Colorado.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Although I am fairly certain you are going to counter my post with some sordid and sinister conspiracy theory there are good people in this world. Good people putting forth a sincere and genuine effort in the hope of possibly making a positive and meaningful difference.
I am ashamed by the fact that you've attempted to discount and discredit what good has come out of both Maura's & Molly's tragic circumstances.
You are more interested in announcing how excited you are about the Feb 9th meeting at Dunkin Donuts, which I'm sure you are not even going to show up, rather than acknowledging it is the 5th anniversary of Maura's tragic disappearance.
The missing persons here in America do not get the attention they deserve and you've done a bang up job turning a forum as sacred as this one into a three ring circus.

Best wishes to you, too.

By the way, I'd love to come to Dunkin' Donuts, but my bodyguards have that day off.

Dawn wrote:

Elswhere - I agree. This should be about finding Maura.
Although - I think we do get an occassional chuckle from "oh many one's post. I think a new forum for that should be started. When the conversations are going back and forth between one person - beagle - and the holy rollers and other religous folk from Colorado.

Regardless of the thread's title, this thread is, in reality, about finding out why Maura Murray disappeared.

If you think she might have been murdered, then you are free to:

(1) focus solely on where her body might be located;

(2) or try to figure out who killed her, which might well lead to the location, if any, of her body;

(3) or concentrate on WHY she might have been killed, which might well identify a killer and lead to the location, if any, of her body.

And learning WHY Maura was killed, if that's what happened, just might save another life, or several other lives.

If you calmly disagree with a theory that includes the trade in human tissue and organs and/or the use and sale of body enhancing/alternative medicine drugs, then I believe that maybe you have thought the theory over a little bit, or maybe you haven't because you just viscerally, instinctively disagree. And that's fine. It's to be expected.

But protracted hostility to this theory AND protracted personal hostility to the poster advancing it, especially by those who advance no realistic theory of their own - and haven't for almost five years now - speaks volumes.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Although I am fairly certain you are going to counter my post with some sordid and sinister conspiracy theory there are good people in this world. Good people putting forth a sincere and genuine effort in the hope of possibly making a positive and meaningful difference.
I am ashamed by the fact that you've attempted to discount and discredit what good has come out of both Maura's & Molly's tragic circumstances.
You are more interested in announcing how excited you are about the Feb 9th meeting at Dunkin Donuts, which I'm sure you are not even going to show up, rather than acknowledging it is the 5th anniversary of Maura's tragic disappearance.
The missing persons here in America do not get the attention they deserve and you've done a bang up job turning a forum as sacred as this one into a three ring circus.

Elsewherebriefly -

Would you prefer I attend the Dunkin' Donuts meeting (noon, 2/9/2009) in Woodsville, NH or would you prefer I not attend it?

Why?

Elsewherebriefly and Sophie Bean -

Today's your lucky day. Just come right out and say what's on your mind. Can you do that? What is it that bothers you so uniquely about me (but no other poster)?

Go ahead. Give me both barrels. Really let me have it. Deliver it with some detail. Really get into it. Don't hold back.

You're full of innuendo and insult, but real short on EXACTLY what's really ticking you off about me. Get it out of your system. Be an adult and just tell it like it is.

Today's your chance. Let's hear it loud and clear.

Hello all,

I find it rather regrettable the way this forum has lately developed into a kind of slanging match between Beagle and his "opponents".
In the meantime Maura´s fate remains as elusive as ever nearly five years after her disappearance.

I hesitate to suggest this since I shall probably be getting slammed for it, but why don´t we have another go at what the website "Brian´s Predictions" is saying about Maura´s case.
It mentions specifically West Thornton, NH, as a place of interest in this context.
What if Maura did indeed get a lift with some passing motorist from the Weathered Barn curve to West Thornton?
What do we have to lose by discussing this, as there seems to be a total lack of any known clues beyond the Weathered Barn.
JMHO.

Dawn wrote:

Elswhere - I agree. This should be about finding Maura.
Although - I think we do get an occassional chuckle from "oh many one's post. I think a new forum for that should be started. When the conversations are going back and forth between one person - beagle - and the holy rollers and other religous folk from Colorado.

I thought that is why Advocator started the new forum, so you all that didn't want to be bothered could post there in peace. But this forum must be much more interesting because the complainers can't seem to stay away.

EB
This is the first time I have heard about "Brians Predictions" please tell more or post the link?

Is this a psychic?

Dawn wrote:

Elswhere - I agree. This should be about finding Maura.
Although - I think we do get an occassional chuckle from "oh many one's post. I think a new forum for that should be started. When the conversations are going back and forth between one person - beagle - and the holy rollers and other religous folk from Colorado.

You see that's the thing. You think that anything that is not in agreement with the TEAM must not be in an effort to find Maura. While those not on the TEAM see the efforts of the TEAM as attempts to divert basic inquiry. Yes, the focus should be on finding Maura and you are participating how, by complaining about any inquiry or any speculation that you personally don't like? Stop being a hypocrite and just tell it how it is.

Wowzer
The other forum is similar - just more posts here. I'm not complaining - just offering my opinion - IMHO - I don't see that Maura Murray went missing from a "egg catcher". We are here to discuss different theories. I will stand up when I see the family victimized and Lady Gray etc. I think that does not help find Maura and only creates hostility. I also think that negates friends or family from posting here. If things had gone a different direction - I think people would have posted who knew her.

Alden - Oh many one

I did tell it like it is! You obviously don't agree. That is fine. If anything - PLEASE use one moniker. Why? Because you lose credibilty when you carry on conversations with yourself.

EB
I googled Brian's predictions. Very interesting that right away he thinks a police officer is involved. Wonder was there ever a guy named Ben ever mentioned early on? One of the 4 police officers? Not to slam the local LE - just repeating what I read on his site. I find it interesting that he says be careful who you trust. that is very telling

I plugged in all the differnt options with the number she said she called - they either are disconnected or a chat line

one goes to a nursing home
2 to finacial companies
1 Interstate Glass
2 - however go to a paging service

of course these numbers could have changed hands
since 04

I don't see West Thorton in his prediction? maybe I am missing something
Conclusion: I think someone that knows about this and has been desperately trying to hid what happened, I do not think the person who took her even knew her at the time, but lives and works very close to the crime science.

She was taken by this man, and I think his name is Ben, a white male approx. 30 years of age, may be a police officer, however I'm not sure and do not want to make any claims like this, buts that's what I say, maybe the police officer was helping her out with something. She made a phone call on the cell phone above to number 800 253 457?... or it could be 258

The man who took her had this symbol on his jacket, maybe an eagle, and she was taken to a lake tar. I do not think she is still alive and her body may still be in this lake, if it has not been moved.

more from Brian's predictions

To the family: I would not trust anyone involved in the case, and would request that you have the FBI from another state look into this case for you. That's all I know from a picture and a name right now, if I get a chance, I will lookup this case on the internet and hopefully I can give you a more detailed reading. And I sincerely hope you find her soon.

http://www.briansprediction.com/forum/viewfor...

Brian's Maura Murray forum

For those that are new like me and didn't have this.

Dawn wrote:

Alden - Oh many one
I did tell it like it is! You obviously don't agree. That is fine. If anything - PLEASE use one moniker. Why? Because you lose credibilty when you carry on conversations with yourself.

Dawn, you have it all wrong. Please stop assuming that we are all the same person. You are making a fool of yourself. Although Alden may be concerned about his credibilty, I am not. Why would I care about my credibility? You are all going to choose on your OWN what to believe anyway. Get a grip.

propaganda firetruck wrote:

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Dawn, you have it all wrong. Please stop assuming that we are all the same person. You are making a fool of yourself. Although Alden may be concerned about his credibilty, I am not. Why would I care about my credibility? You are all going to choose on your OWN what to believe anyway. Get a grip.

Gee. That's very helpful and moves Maura's case forward just as much as you accuse Dawn of not doing.

/eyeroll

Why reply if your not Alden? HUH? talk about credablity.

oops credibility..I finished moving today... another round of layoffs here - microsoft yesterday - starbucks getting ready to make announcement.......... seattle is hurting. in the 71 they put up a billboard that said " the last one who leaves - please turn out the lights" Seattle, WA. getting to that point.