Where is MAURA MURRAY

Snowy White wrote:

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an active, criminal investigation?

Uh, yeah. That would do it, all right.

:)

Suzanne wrote:

For what it's worth - last night I read Not Without Peril by Nicholas Howe - the book that was found in Maura's Saturn in Haverhill. It has been said that Haverhill LE interpreted this as a "clue" leading them to the conclusion that Maura may have committed suicide. No way. It's an excellent book, very readable. Great to read on a very cold winter's night, wherever you are you know you are warmer than the people in the book are. A great tribute to the AMC rescue teams.

Yup. You're not the first person to have decided this by even a cursory reading. I'm quite familiar with the book, and I concur--NO WAY is it an indication of that sort.

Beagle wrote:

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3. Their parents.
4. A request from LE.
5. A need to avoid endless questions.
6. No desire to feel persecuted for giving "suspicous" or "diversionary" answers.
7. No desire to have the meaning of their words distorted into the opposite of what they intended.
8. No desire to become another two or three letter referent such as SBD, CS, CW, and so on.

Beagle, this (and the one preceding it) are two of the posts of yours I've agred most whole-heartedly with. Hope your tin-foil hat is keeping you warm up there, and I mean that earnestly.

Ben Franklyne ~

Thank you. Seriously! Heavy reading, but do-able. I actually read thru the first two links, and am taking a break from the third...after hashing it out with the Comcast technical ppl. He promises a return call tomorrow.

Static (commercial) and dynamic (residential) is basic...and I'll be learning more about the router tomorrow. I know where it's physically located.

I'm jealous of the peeps with 842 names and locations. They have too much fun. ;-)

FireCat wrote:

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My location actually only changes when...well, when my location changes. But it doesn't change to the location where I've gone, if that makes any sense at all. It doesn't to me, so I wouldn't blame you if it didn't.

Maybe you are aboard the International Space Station? Working in Antarctica on a scientific expedition.

OK - I'm falling asleep posting a dream. Sorry.

Benjamin Franklyne wrote:

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Maybe you are aboard the International Space Station? Working in Antarctica on a scientific expedition.
OK - I'm falling asleep posting a dream. Sorry.

I wish. Because in Antarctica, it's summer.

GO TO BED, dude.

Am I the only person to think that some of the police know what happened here?
How many people in this forum actually even participated in trying to find out what really happened to Maura because some of the things said in here really have nothing to do with the case and some of the people in here are just throwing a wrench the gears as to throw others off base totally and then others actually respond to the nonsence!
Is this how mysteries are really solved and if so what is the sense of even talking about what really might have happened. Some of you should just leave this forum and go solve a fictional movie mystery in another forum or just go read a book and not come back because when you fill the blog with nonsense it is like watching a comedy movie and having the sound come from a horror movie and others try to make sense of it.
Why post unless you have something intelligent to say? By the way who is going to show up at Dunkin Donuts in Woodsville to meet and discuss this case?
Sorry I cannot make it but wish I could, maybe next time ok i can meet Columbo and the others who really care.

Time to wake up and talk about reality and things that matter not the nonense some of you talk about.. If you have to talk about stupid non related things or don't understand something maybe you should ask someone who talks about nothing related to this blog or is just rambling about nothing.:))
AMUSING isn't it!
Oh and by the way for those confused the saturn was on cruise control so will the SP please release it so the car can find it's way home like usual and I know it would do a better job finding Maura than those calling themselves well trained well paid Gov. officials and police who have invested so many donuts trying not to solve this case and who have attempted to help find her and assisted all of us in the area or not since 2004, I know the Murray family appreciates all you have done to make them feel like you really care and share everything that has been shared especially when they went to court for the evidence you had so Mr. Murray could incorperate what evidence you have with what he has so he can do his best to find her! THANKS!!

WBZ update

http://wbztv.com/local/Fred.Murray.New.2.9294...

Snowy White wrote:

WBZ update
http://wbztv.com/local/Fred.Murray.New.2.9294...

Snowy, thank you for putting this link on here. Please note that the WBZ media source, in this link, chose an abbreviated version of the entire story that was released by Masslive.com -their article was written by Beth LaMontagne Hall/The Associated Press.

Want to point something out…….I find it interesting how the WBZ media source in this link chooses the paragraph below from the Masslive.com article:

“Senior Assistant Attorney General Jeffery Strelzin said authorities are still working hard to figure out what happened. He added police believe Maura Murray could have run away and is living elsewhere.“

The paragraph, from the Masslive.com article, is shown below in it’s entirety:

“Strelzin said police believe Maura Murray could have essentially run away and is living elsewhere, a scenario her family does not buy. Murray could have also been injured in the accident, wandered off into the woods and died of exposure or ran into someone who harmed her.”

Here’s the link to the article in it’s entirety:

http://www.masslive.com/newsflash/index.ssf...

(© 2009 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)

Snowy White wrote:

WBZ update
http://wbztv.com/local/Fred.Murray.New.2.9294...

Thanks, Snowy. I hadn't seen this yet, and it is sad...

And, yes, What the Heck is me, Lady Gray. Don't mean to add to the confusion of different names so I will revert back to Lady Gray.....however, what the heck feels much more appropriate..... Horror of all horrors though, don't want to add to any further confusion.

Thank YOU, Lady Gray, for linking a more accurate source.
I trust that Maura's father and family likely know her better than anyone.

Hello all,

With the risk of repeating myself I´m reverting to the reported statement by witness T M-e. From his house he is said to have witnessed the Saturn being reversed into the snowbank, where it was later found.
If this observation is correct, then such a manoeuvre clearly indicates a staged accident.
This would also mean that the Saturn must have arrived at this spot from an easterly direction, either along Bradley Hill Road or further east along Rte 112.
Apparently, witness TM is likely the only person actually to have witnessed in what manner the Saturn ended up in the snowbank. F W-n heard an acceleration and a bump and the SBD only arrived some time later.
Ideas?

There is a small write up this week By Frank & Earnest in the North Country News about the 5 year anniversary of Maura being missing. It also has a picture of her as a child and a more recent one.

Lady Gray, thanks for the posts and horrors of horrors, nothing can add anything further to the confusion! It is done.

Wowzer wrote:

There is a small write up this week By Frank & Earnest in the North Country News about the 5 year anniversary of Maura being missing. It also has a picture of her as a child and a more recent one.

Here's the link but it doesn't have the earlier picture that is in the paper.
http://www.northcountrynewsnh.com/web_pages_0...

So state police (presumably NH) have, according to Healy, put in hundreds if not thousands of hours on the case, but LE, according to Strelzin, thinks she may have run away or wandered off into the woods and died?

But according to a reliable source, UMass PD is handling the investigation.

Meanwhile, two MA private investigators - one licensed, one apparently not - are or have been together investigating both the Bish and Murray cases as a closely connected PAIR of cases.

And these two MA investigators have close ties (as in money) to people at the heart of the 2004 Gov. Rowland bribery case and presumably know the owner of the property where the Saturn might have been parked Thursday night and following nights, and which property owner, so to speak, was involved in the Rowland case.

Rowland was a high school wrestling teammate of John Regan whose attorney was paid a retainer, shortly after Regan inexplicably pleaded guilty, by people very closely related to both the Molly Bish Reward Fund and the company that owned the school bus in Haverhill.

The Saturn was found abandoned on Rt. 112 in Haverhill, NH.

The only vehicle, a school bus, that was known to have stopped at the scene was owned by a company which has its office almost across the street from the dorm where Maura was assigned a room.

I would suggest that someone associated with this building near SW and who lives in Springfield could assist in understanding the possible circumstances that made Maura Murray's disappearance possible. Not that he's guilty of any crime or knows anything about her disappearance directly, but he may be able, by virtue of his general knowledge, to point in the right direction. It's not a guarantee, but it's well worth pursuing.

Public records irrefutably demonstrate a clear corporate connection among

1. the school bus company (Haverhill NH);

2. the ambulance company (Haverhill NH);

3. an office across the street from Maura Murray's dorm cluster (SW);

4. the retainer paid to John Regan's attorney;

5. a significant source of bribes in the Rowland case;

6. a businessman with intense business interests in Saratoga Springs and Austin TX;

7. the owner of the property where the Saturn could well have been parked Thursday through Sunday nights;

8. and at least 60 percent of the Molly Bish Reward Fund.