Where is MAURA MURRAY

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Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>I know what you're saying and tend to agree. But I have to add...
I had a nephew who was headed to USNA after high school. He dropped out of school near the end of the year, took off from home, came back, became a truck driver for a while, then became a state trooper, which he still is. Through his own hard work, he is very well off financially, has a nice family, and has never looked back. He wanted a different life and gave up all the academic stuff for something that was, to him, far more substantial.
Judging by his family and home, I'd say he made the right decision. But no one would have guessed what was in him before he dropped out of high school. He's a highly principled, stand-up guy and if Maura did something like run away, she might have turned out just as well. Which might break her family's heart, if true, but it sure beats the alternative.

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I am a member of the Washington State Bar Association. I changed my membership status from active to inactive because I retired from the practice of law at the end of 2004.
I am now a law professor. I am not a member of the Kentucky Bar Association because I do not practice law here and have no need for a license.

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Not to freak you out anymore - the field tech would not have access to check that - it is in the switch/central office. Tech's are 95% outsourced - they wear verizon logo's but are paid from a vendor. If you want to talk to a Verizon network admin - it can be arranged.

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Snowy White wrote:

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Yes, Beagle...I'm not at all surprised by the happy ending; congrats to all. There are many ways to succeed, and I don't want to preach.
You're touching on a good point, however, about parental and/or peer demands to follow a certain educational/career path, and an expectation to reach a particular level of achievement...which may have been imposed on Maura.
With the focus on forward motion, a student's preferences and dreams can be buried, ignored, and suffocated.
Often, as in the case of your nephew, a young man or woman has the courage to break free and carve out his/her own life path.
Without knowing her, I want to believe Maura was also made of that stuff...and would have continued to make these choices without having to disappear.
It is unknown if her parents were inflexible or understanding about Maura's transfer and change in major. I have no reason to believe they were anything but supportive.

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John, But you see, I picked Rt 112 as my route of choice simply by studying my map. Perhaps Maura did the same thing. I have never been on 112 but I have seen the MMM forum video of the part of 112 where her car was found, 112, at least in this video, looked very non threatening. Not a highway for sure but a reasonable albeit curvey road to drive on.

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Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Read the post again. The field tech, who is NOT an outsourced employee, used the phone they carry on their tool belts to call the switching office, or whatever place could give him the information about where the calls were going. The field tech repeated the information he received back to the person from whom he received it. I was standing next to him so I heard him say it. This field tech worked for Verizon since it was previously known as New England Telephone and Telegraph. And he knew another true Verizon tech whom I also knew.
So, my calls went to the person I intended to call, and they went to a psyc person near town. In addition to that, they "rang" inside the first floor office at which point they were immediately tranferred to another location in southerneastern Vermont.
The Verizon field tech then asked the office manager if she knew there were three lines that came into the first floor office. She said no, there were only two that she was aware of, and she had worked there for about 4 years at that point.
I had my cordless phone in hand at the time and was within range of my upstairs base unit. I called the office phone in front of me (first floor) and bing, it rang at the office in Vermont. The office manager in MA was startled and said she had never heard that simultaneous kind of ringing before. So to make sure it would happen again, I called another location in town, and sure enough, the phone call was immediately transferred to the office in Vermont.
The transferring of the call to Vermont was probably related to a kind of forwarding feature that a lot of small businesses use when the only employee at a branch location steps out of the office for a while. That way a customer's phone call would not be lost. But other calls came in to the MA office at the time and they were not forwarded to Vermont.
Naturally, few can be expected to think all this means anything because we all know that no one ever bugs a phone line or whatever they call it.
And, of course, it's much more important to discredit it and its poster than to wonder if maybe it is ture and somehow connected. Indulging the possibility of its being true and potentially helpful would be too embarrassing. Obviously, finding Maura is not worth any kind of embarrassment.

John wrote:

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Curious, where are you a law professor? U Dub? Seattle Pacific?

Beagle wrote:

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It'll knock your teeth loose in two minutes. But, yes, I can see how someone would choose Rt. 112 after having looked at a map.
And just to show an open mind, I can still see how she might have been hit by the clam shell on the back of a small front end loader operated by someone with limited peripheral vision. And if the jurisdictional issue is relevant, then I can see how maybe the Saturn was hit in Bath and then towed back just over the line to Haverhill.
Just a thought.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Suzanne,
When I was a new driver I made the mistake of thinking Route 112 looked like an easy route on the road map to Loon Mountain Ski Resort from the coast. My best friend and I headed out in the late afternoon and we didn't take into consideration that there would not be any street lights and the route would be so hilly and winding. It was a white knuckled screamfest to say the least. Aside from driving through the Rockies alone during a snowstorm in a piece of crap rental vehicle it was the second scariest ride of my life.

Dawn wrote:

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I am just trying to help you out here. Someone - gave you bad info. I am not saying you gave bad info - just the technology to make that happen doesn't work that way. When a phone is tapped it doesn't ring - they actually 'tap' into the two pair of copper wires it takes to make one pots line. To get three lines in the had to have 6 copper wires - this would go from the little green box on the street to the demarc on the building to the jack's on the wall. cordless or not. That must be very scary to have something like that told to you about your phone. Hopefully the info above can help. I would report it for sure.

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Beagle wrote:

Interest in Maura's disappearance also include, in addition to a vigorous pro-life conntingent, lesbian adoptive parents and battered women's shelters. The connection among pregancy counseling, one or more adoption agencies, and a couple of battered women's groups is key. I believe they are the ones strenuously trying to discredit the Amherst view. Their minds were made up a long time ago, but some of them may have been mislead by a PI (not from NH).
So the theory advanced by someone (else) about Maura's having been pregnant by some guy who turned violent on her is not that far out.
But this improbable alliance of pro-lifers and women's advocates is unusual. Only in a college town like Amherst would you see this kind of cooperation. Not to mention the fact that the area has a very high lesbian populatiion, many of whom are married or in a long term relationship and have adopted one or more children. Which is what probably explains the cooperation between two groups that would normally oppose each other.

Anne wrote:

I can hear the dissenters already, but I'll forge ahead anyway! Maura was on the deans list, attending difficult clinicals and working. Seems to me she was motivated and directed!

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Beagle wrote:

Why would Maura have assumed responsibility for a Vasi hit if she had merely loaned the car to someone else who hit Vasi and left the scene? Why wouldn't Maura have reported that person?

Beagle wrote:

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Beagle wrote: Why would Maura have assumed responsibility for a Vasi hit if she had merely loaned the car to someone else who hit Vasi and left the scene? Why wouldn't Maura have reported that person?
Anne wrote in response: There is nothing that says that Maura assumed responsibility for a Vasi hit. This is a tiring, draning accusation. For those new here, this is a speculation.
Beagle re-phrases question: IF someone other than Maura had hit Vasi and left the scene, why would Maura have assumed responsibility for a Vasi hit if she had merely LOANED the car to someone else who hit Vasi and left the scene? Why wouldn't Maura have reported that person?
You can always go way out on a limb and actually think about the above question because believe it or not it's a damn important question. Is Maura worth your taking the time to think about something beside that tiny spot on Rt. 112 in Haverhill? Is it really going to ruin anyone's life to give honest consideration to alternate theories?
You're bashing an honest theory, Anne, and you know it. If you're bashing an honest theory, you're cheating Maura and her family.

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Beagle wrote:

If an obsessive preoccupation with a short section of road in Haverhill, New Hampshire and with a few local residents FOR FIVE YEARS is not a sign of mental fatigue or illness, I don't know what is.
The Vasi hit is a very reasonable theory or scenario. It is OBVIOUSLY speculative. It has to be at this point. No speculation, no progress. It's that simple.
But why all the nasty resistance to a Vasi hit?
Bashing a reasonable theory instead of honestly considering it is nothing less than an attempt to cheat Maura's family and loved ones out of a possible solution.

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Anne wrote:

Beagle, Let me be very clear here, I am quite interested in what happened in Amherst. To even suggest otherwise is a diversion you only are perpetuating with many posters here.
IF someone other than Maura stole her car and hit Vasi, I see no bearing on Maura. IMHO I do not believe this happened. Your question, "why wouldn't Maura have reported that person?" is simply more unsubstantiated diversion.
I have always been honest and direct here, Beagle, and Mauras family and friends clearly know that.

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Beagle wrote:

If there were a reasonable chance that Maura would be discovered in a large field and you were looking for her in that field, would you say that because you believe she must be on the right half of the field that you will therefore NEVER look for her on the left side of the field?
If after five years of looking for Maura on the right side, why would the many looking for Maura on only the right side of the field, with no results at all, not help out a little by looking for her on the other side of the field, even if they felt she probably wasn't there? And why would they try to intimidate and bully anyone who advocates looking on both sides of the field?
If they are sitting on their rear ends, bashing anyone who looks on the left side of the field, then just how interested can they be in finding Maura?
Because that's what this thread reflects: an obsessive need to look for Maura in only one small place, over and over and over, with no results after five years. There are only two reasons for this. Collective mental illness or a fear that Maura's fate will be dicovered elsewhere.

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Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Beagle, I will continue as I have for all these years looking on both sides of the field. No results after 5 years simply means no results, not the conspiracy you project.