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Johnny Bravado

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Det. Columbo or WEEPER,

Can you please tell me whether or not we'd be able to obtain one of Maura's strands of hair from the Saturn? The next time you see the Saturn, could you search around for a strand of hair?

If we obtain one of her strands of hair, we could have it tested for drugs. I'm not accusing her of being on drugs, but it would eliminate the somewhat-probable theory that Maura was addicted to drugs at the time (possibly cocaine, heroin, painkillers or something else that's very addictive) and went up to NH to see a drug dealer to either pick up, drop off, pay him, etc. This theory would explain everything, starting with the red truck (if that even exists), and it would also explain her erratic and nonsensical behavior along with dozens of other questions. I believe it's certainly worth giving this a try since it could eliminate one probable theory.
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Beagle wrote:
What Firecat posted about First Student is totally wrong. EPA and SEC documents contradict her.
Well, Beagle, since you have all the official documentation, please give us the references so we can see for ourselves. If the SEC has "documents" on First Student, there should be an SEC filing number. What is it? And please explain what documents the EPA would have about a Bus Company.
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Johnny Bravado wrote:
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What's the word John? What's the latest in your findings?
Have not tried yet. Will probably not do until tomorrow.
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"In 1992, Pat Mahoney closed the Florida office [of Operation Rescue] because of heavy fines. The Rev. Kenneth Tucci then assumed leadership and established headquarters in Summerville, South Carolina."

Above from: The Abortion Movement and the Rise of the Religious Right: From Polite to Fiery Protest. By Dallas A. Blanchard.
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John wrote:
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Well, Beagle, since you have all the official documentation, please give us the references so we can see for ourselves. If the SEC has "documents" on First Student, there should be an SEC filing number. What is it? And please explain what documents the EPA would have about a Bus Company.
I encourage you to analyze and try to validate some of his remarks. Be the next person to prove how wrong he is.
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ScooterD wrote:
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Columbo posted this on the other forum and Pink P must have copied/pasted it over here...inadvertantly copying Columbo's signature with it. My guess anyway...
John - you gonna register at the other site? Only reason I ask is cuz I was going to PM you 'bout something.
Okay, I have done this.
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Feb 15, 2009
 
Leo shot Stella to death in 1964. Leo believed that Stella's close friends, the Monahans, were helping Stella leave Leo. In the 1980's, the Catholic Diocese of Springfield gave Leo a (single) lot of land in Chicopee for no consideration.

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Johnny Bravado wrote:
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So the search could be misdirected, right? Explain to me how the search WOULDN'T be misdirected if they left the car 20 minutes south of Amherst in Springfield or 20 minutes north in Greenfield or 20 minutes west in Pittsfield? That would accomplish the exact same thing that "staging" the accident in NH would, and it would save a lot of time. Why would the search ONLY be misdirected if they drove the car to NH? Where's the logic behind that? Conducting a search at X spot is different from conducting a search at X spot? Either way, Maura is already abducted/missing by this point, remember? Regardless of where you leave the car, LE is going to conduct a search that ends up no where because she's already missing.
It's all a giant coincidence that someone ALSO used Maura's phone # to call possible renters in NH/VT and that 800 # that also pertained to renting? That must be a giant coincidence in your eyes, right? Of course it is.
Obviously your brain isn't vast enough to try and project yourself in the shoes of another person and attempt to imagine what they would do in a particular situation. You have to have a minimal level of creativity to accomplish such a feat.
You are correct in that misdirection can happen in any direction. However - the car ended up in New Hampshire.

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Johnny Bravado wrote:
It's all a giant coincidence that someone ALSO used Maura's phone # to call possible renters in NH/VT and that 800 # that also pertained to renting? That must be a giant coincidence in your eyes, right? Of course it is.
I honestly do not think its a coincidence - but instead a known fact forcing the hand of the criminal involved.
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As is usually the case, a paper trail has to be followed. There is no single SEC document that demonstrates this. But a series of documents, including information on the various bus companies' website, helps establish the connection.

Also, please keep in mind that there is often a company-by-state arrangement. For example, ABC Bus Co. of Massachusetts, ABC Bus Co. of New Hampshire, etc. While these are, on one level, separate companies, they are, for all practical purposes, one company.

Explaining the connection among American Transit, Laidlaw, and First Student is tedious and takes a long time. I don't have all the documents in front of me, but the EPA doc is here, which should suffice for now. The ownership issue is hard to explain to the general public, but so is organic chemistry.

http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/fii_query_dtl.di...

Again, I'm not saying that any specific person is guilty of anything. I'm just pointing out an opportunity that someone, anyone, may have somehow taken advantage of. No need to go really crazy over it, is there? Or is there?

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I don't bother you? HAHAHA
Compost.

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Beagle

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Johnny Bravado wrote:
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I encourage you to analyze and try to validate some of his remarks. Be the next person to prove how wrong he is.
Who was the first? I forget. There has been so much interest, I can't recall the number of people who keep proving how wrong I am.

Of course, no one would understand the revolutionary connection between Regan and, for example, A. Murray Sinclair.

Or the close friendship between Tony and Mr. Welch of Council Grove, KS, unit number...

You get your mail at a storage unit, Inspector? Ever spend any time at a storage unit in Council Grove? Or a house in Herington? Inspector?
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Beagle wrote:
"In 1992, Pat Mahoney closed the Florida office [of Operation Rescue] because of heavy fines. The Rev. Kenneth Tucci then assumed leadership and established headquarters in Summerville, South Carolina."
Above from: The Abortion Movement and the Rise of the Religious Right: From Polite to Fiery Protest. By Dallas A. Blanchard.
Beagle, please ... stop
Beagle, shut up.
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Sorry Beagle. I typed "shut up" in haste then thought better of it. Thought I had deleted it. My apologies. But dude, you gotta stop with the BS.
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Beagle wrote:
As is usually the case, a paper trail has to be followed. There is no single SEC document that demonstrates this. But a series of documents, including information on the various bus companies' website, helps establish the connection.
Also, please keep in mind that there is often a company-by-state arrangement. For example, ABC Bus Co. of Massachusetts, ABC Bus Co. of New Hampshire, etc. While these are, on one level, separate companies, they are, for all practical purposes, one company.
Explaining the connection among American Transit, Laidlaw, and First Student is tedious and takes a long time. I don't have all the documents in front of me, but the EPA doc is here, which should suffice for now. The ownership issue is hard to explain to the general public, but so is organic chemistry.
http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/fii_query_dtl.di...
Again, I'm not saying that any specific person is guilty of anything. I'm just pointing out an opportunity that someone, anyone, may have somehow taken advantage of. No need to go really crazy over it, is there? Or is there?
If there were SEC documents related to the bus company, the all would have the same SEC filing number. So, this is more of your polluting BS.

Also, you did not explain why on God's green earth the EPA would have documents.

Sounds like you just thought people might buy it if you threw out something that sounded like you had some specific knowledge.

Please stop with this.
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Beagle wrote:
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Who was the first? I forget. There has been so much interest, I can't recall the number of people who keep proving how wrong I am.
Of course, no one would understand the revolutionary connection between Regan and, for example, A. Murray Sinclair.
Or the close friendship between Tony and Mr. Welch of Council Grove, KS, unit number...
You get your mail at a storage unit, Inspector? Ever spend any time at a storage unit in Council Grove? Or a house in Herington? Inspector?
Lets not forget the "evil quindrangle" ... Oliver North, Ronald Reagan, the Iranians, the Contras and - of course the gigantic yellow bus/right to life conglomerate, who remarkably had an office near UMASS.
John

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I have been reading Weeper's posts. What a great source of information. I am so glad that I found it.
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Johnny Bravado wrote:
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What's the word John? What's the latest in your findings?
The weeper posts are great.

I am heading up to the scene next weekend, I hope.

Per Beagles suggestion, plan to drive the presumed path of the car from Amherst, just to have it in my head. Would like to find out particulars of where Kennedy is, where the ATM is, where the liquor store is.

I will share whatever what I learn or theorize.
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BELOW FROM:

http://www.legalmomentum.org/assets/pdfs/cpcf...

CPCs [Crisis Pregnancy Centers], alternately referred to as Pregnancy Resource Centers, are anti-abortion centers run by groups with the goal of dissuading women from having abortions. CPCs often list themselves under the “abortion” or “abortion alternatives” heading in the telephone book and choose locations near schools, college campuses or in the immediate proximity of actual abortion clinics.2 But rather than providing women with honest advice and information, they use propaganda and intimidation to prevent women from accessing or even considering abortion.

CPCs first began appearing in the 1970s in the aftermath of Roe v. Wade as a new strategy to deter women from abortion. In 1984, Robert Pearson, an anti-abortion activist and early leader of the CPC movement, authored “How to Start and Operate Your Own Pro-Life Outreach Crisis Pregnancy Center.” This widely used manual outlined the deceptive tactics that continue to
characterize CPCs, including how to falsely portray a CPC as an abortion provider and how to evade client questions on the telephone.9
Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, CPCs continued to multiply and gain power with the support of
organizations such as Focus on the Family, the Christian Action Council (now known as Care Net)
and the National Institute of Family Life Advocates (NIFLA). CPCs have formed tight knowledge sharing and financial support networks through funding and franchise organizations such as
Birthright and Heartbeat International.
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Could we return to any probable fact, such as accident in Haverhill, telephone call on Thrusday, Londonderry call, Saturn damage, or anything deemed relative to where Maura is.
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