Where is MAURA MURRAY

peripeteia wrote:

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Our job here is done! Amen!

Um, no. Our job here isn't done. We still can't find Maura. Our job here, hopefully, just got a hell of a lot easier though.

White Wash:
Since you STATED these things to be FACT, your only source of information can be the police, if this is so, then the police need to do some explaining, of why this information was given to
and not the family.
In regards to # 2, the only thing that DNA can prove is that Maura was driving the car at the time the airbags were deployed. The alcohol if mixed with saliva does not prove absolutely that the alcohol came from her mouth, since it was spewed over the car and contaminated the sample. I question even how a scientist could prove that the person was drinking from DNA when there is an open container of alcohol spilled all over the car, unless I am missing some detail unknown to me, i.e. that the substance was not wine in the diet coke bottle but the same alcohol that was mixed with the DNA sample. But again if you know this, the police need to explain how you came by DNA results not made available to the family or private detectives, and how the substance in the diet coke bottle was not wine?
Your first #12 and not the second #12
That CW called police before a neighbour, this could have only come from police, unless of course you are stated what the CW stated as fact without verification by police.
#1 Maura was asked to leave West Point, again if you state this to be fact, it could have only come from police. We know a poster here first brought this information forward to the public, and are in the know because they have inside information. If this is your source, how do you know it to be FACT unless verified from police.
You too still have not answered your comment you feel the SBD was asked to change his story? My guess here is that you stuck your foot in your mouth there!
Far as abuse regarding people of the area, the only one to my knowledge is the SBD and CW, and that is because they were untruthful, The SBD was untruthful, proven by yourself in your article to the press, where the police clearly indicated that Maura was drinking, and that the SBD said so. Yet many times to many reporters and to the famiy, the SBD stated Maura was not drinking! Also, the police refuse to discuss what the SBD said, and did after he left the accident scene, should not the police clear this up if the SBD has been truthful. Ask the police why they have not done so, and let us know, and I am sure if we are in error about his veracity we will all apologize, and I personally will write to every major newspaper in the county and show the error of my ways.
And my same comments to you as to Suzanne, the press and police have pointed out the dicotomy of the SBD's statements, and surely the people of your community if they pointed their fingers at the SBD and the CW, perhaps it is because what they read in the press and has nothing to do with the view of the posters here because surely the newspapers did not take their information from posters.
I have reported you as well to Topix for abuse, for agreeing with Suzanne, re: watch our backs!
FACTS, FICTION, or your version of FACTS?

Suzanne's post as referenced in post #18277 is perfectly clear to me...and responds TO A THREAT AGAINST HER about karma. She merely elaborates on the fact that we are all subject to "karma".... if one is to belief such a concept exists.
Not reportable.

That said, I cannot understand the bulk of the content in peri's post.

None of this makes a speck of a difference, anyway, given a proper investigation remains in the hands of state authorities.
Presumably, the authentic investigation is not influenced by the opinions of pseudo-sleuths who argue on a silly forum.

There ain't nothin' wrong, with a little Strunk and White!

.....niiiiiiice.

("NH residents sick and fedup with Murry (sic) case")
johneyonetime wrote:
and dont want to hear about it again. ever!

Suzanne wrote:
DITTO !!!!

Yeah, like we didn't know that about Suzanne already.

FireCat wrote:

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Um, no. Our job here isn't done. We still can't find Maura. Our job here, hopefully, just got a hell of a lot easier though.

Yes INDEED Maura needs to be found,as well as other missing people, and the perpetrators of murder victims in NH; however we cannot do this unless anyone else comes forward with new information, unless of course you mean physically searching. I meant our job here is done as far as lobbying for additional resources to investigate Maura's disappearnce.

Sorry for my lack of clarity, but I am convinced, our job on the forum, was to get people to come forward with information and to draw attention to the public and police that additional resources are needed in cold cases. I do not see the view of the purpose of the forum as finding the answers, because they are evidentiary.

Wow!

Please don't put your opinions or thoughts on
anything of mine please!

I have no clue what you are talking about in this
post and anything I have published is because I
truly had a good source of that information
if that isn't acceptable to you fine you are entitled to that say you don't agree! But to not
take my work and twist into something it is not!

Thank You!

peripeteia wrote:

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This sounds like a threat, and I have reported you to Topix. Should Mr. "M" be concerned in that his statements to the press has indicated that the person in question was not truthful by showing the public what the SBD said he did after the accident was not the same as he indicated to the press? The private detectives have stated he lied, should they be concerned with their safety? The police, have indicated he was not truthful by stating that Maura was drinking and refuse to comment on why the SBD stated she was not drinking? White Wash's statement that he was asked to change his statement in her opinion, is there anything to this?
We NOW see your motive for your vengence. White Wash has proven in her article that the person in questioned lied, and since law enforcement has refused to comment on the SBD's movements after the accident, then perhaps you should direct your vengence to the police, because it is they who have confirmed he has not been truthful.
Because some of us have parroted the veracity of the SBD's statements, why direct your comments to the posters here, seems you are misguided in your vindication of the veracity of a person who has told mistruths in a criminal investigation. Do you not think that the citizens of the area questioned his veracity by the statements made to the press, and has little to do with the comments of the people on forums and other avenues of the media.
You cannot think clearly when you have a goal in mind, it is called a mind set, and it does not appear to be critical but one with a person.
Good luck to you, and hopefully we will be spared further attacks by someone with an agenda.
NEXT!

No I wouldn't say that!
I would say for those who don't agree I'm
not going to explain myself over and over.
It seems other just say as they please
and never explain or answer questions.
So I've adopted that!
I'm not changing anything for anyone who
believes I should.
Make sense?

I am what I am period!

FireCat wrote:

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Ok, so you're writing for a specific audience, and that's the audience who already agrees with you.
Interesting.

They probably would have if they wheren't being
sued as they can not TALK TO THE FAMILY!
The family has someone at the AG's office who
is speaking with them!
I'm sorry it's not what you think it should!

peripeteia wrote:

White Wash:
Since you STATED these things to be FACT, your only source of information can be the police, if this is so, then the police need to do some explaining, of why this information was given to
and not the family.
In regards to # 2, the only thing that DNA can prove is that Maura was driving the car at the time the airbags were deployed. The alcohol if mixed with saliva does not prove absolutely that the alcohol came from her mouth, since it was spewed over the car and contaminated the sample. I question even how a scientist could prove that the person was drinking from DNA when there is an open container of alcohol spilled all over the car, unless I am missing some detail unknown to me, i.e. that the substance was not wine in the diet coke bottle but the same alcohol that was mixed with the DNA sample. But again if you know this, the police need to explain how you came by DNA results not made available to the family or private detectives, and how the substance in the diet coke bottle was not wine?
Your first #12 and not the second #12
That CW called police before a neighbour, this could have only come from police, unless of course you are stated what the CW stated as fact without verification by police.
#1 Maura was asked to leave West Point, again if you state this to be fact, it could have only come from police. We know a poster here first brought this information forward to the public, and are in the know because they have inside information. If this is your source, how do you know it to be FACT unless verified from police.
You too still have not answered your comment you feel the SBD was asked to change his story? My guess here is that you stuck your foot in your mouth there!
Far as abuse regarding people of the area, the only one to my knowledge is the SBD and CW, and that is because they were untruthful, The SBD was untruthful, proven by yourself in your article to the press, where the police clearly indicated that Maura was drinking, and that the SBD said so. Yet many times to many reporters and to the famiy, the SBD stated Maura was not drinking! Also, the police refuse to discuss what the SBD said, and did after he left the accident scene, should not the police clear this up if the SBD has been truthful. Ask the police why they have not done so, and let us know, and I am sure if we are in error about his veracity we will all apologize, and I personally will write to every major newspaper in the county and show the error of my ways.
And my same comments to you as to Suzanne, the press and police have pointed out the dicotomy of the SBD's statements, and surely the people of your community if they pointed their fingers at the SBD and the CW, perhaps it is because what they read in the press and has nothing to do with the view of the posters here because surely the newspapers did not take their information from posters.
I have reported you as well to Topix for abuse, for agreeing with Suzanne, re: watch our backs!
FACTS, FICTION, or your version of FACTS?

peripeteia wrote:

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Yes INDEED Maura needs to be found,as well as other missing people, and the perpetrators of murder victims in NH; however we cannot do this unless anyone else comes forward with new information, unless of course you mean physically searching. I meant our job here is done as far as lobbying for additional resources to investigate Maura's disappearnce.
Sorry for my lack of clarity, but I am convinced, our job on the forum, was to get people to come forward with information and to draw attention to the public and police that additional resources are needed in cold cases. I do not see the view of the purpose of the forum as finding the answers, because they are evidentiary.

I understand, Peri....it's just that I got all excited for a minute.

Speaking of threating this sounds to be a bit to me!

People who live in glass houses really should
learn not to throw rocks on this forum!

peripeteia wrote:

White Wash:
Since you STATED these things to be FACT, your only source of information can be the police, if this is so, then the police need to do some explaining, of why this information was given to
and not the family.
In regards to # 2, the only thing that DNA can prove is that Maura was driving the car at the time the airbags were deployed. The alcohol if mixed with saliva does not prove absolutely that the alcohol came from her mouth, since it was spewed over the car and contaminated the sample. I question even how a scientist could prove that the person was drinking from DNA when there is an open container of alcohol spilled all over the car, unless I am missing some detail unknown to me, i.e. that the substance was not wine in the diet coke bottle but the same alcohol that was mixed with the DNA sample. But again if you know this, the police need to explain how you came by DNA results not made available to the family or private detectives, and how the substance in the diet coke bottle was not wine?
Your first #12 and not the second #12
That CW called police before a neighbour, this could have only come from police, unless of course you are stated what the CW stated as fact without verification by police.
#1 Maura was asked to leave West Point, again if you state this to be fact, it could have only come from police. We know a poster here first brought this information forward to the public, and are in the know because they have inside information. If this is your source, how do you know it to be FACT unless verified from police.
You too still have not answered your comment you feel the SBD was asked to change his story? My guess here is that you stuck your foot in your mouth there!
Far as abuse regarding people of the area, the only one to my knowledge is the SBD and CW, and that is because they were untruthful, The SBD was untruthful, proven by yourself in your article to the press, where the police clearly indicated that Maura was drinking, and that the SBD said so. Yet many times to many reporters and to the famiy, the SBD stated Maura was not drinking! Also, the police refuse to discuss what the SBD said, and did after he left the accident scene, should not the police clear this up if the SBD has been truthful. Ask the police why they have not done so, and let us know, and I am sure if we are in error about his veracity we will all apologize, and I personally will write to every major newspaper in the county and show the error of my ways.
And my same comments to you as to Suzanne, the press and police have pointed out the dicotomy of the SBD's statements, and surely the people of your community if they pointed their fingers at the SBD and the CW, perhaps it is because what they read in the press and has nothing to do with the view of the posters here because surely the newspapers did not take their information from posters.
I have reported you as well to Topix for abuse, for agreeing with Suzanne, re: watch our backs!
FACTS, FICTION, or your version of FACTS?

I heard things.

Snowy White wrote:

Suzanne's post as referenced in post #18277 is perfectly clear to me...and responds TO A THREAT AGAINST HER about karma. She merely elaborates on the fact that we are all subject to "karma".... if one is to belief such a concept exists.
Not reportable.
That said, I cannot understand the bulk of the content in peri's post.
None of this makes a speck of a difference, anyway, given a proper investigation remains in the hands of state authorities.
Presumably, the authentic investigation is not influenced by the opinions of pseudo-sleuths who argue on a silly forum.

Nor is the investigation influenced by your repeated pontification and if all so silly, what are you doing here, other than discussing what is appropriate or inappropriate since you believe Maura ran off to start a new life. You views amount to little more than jumping on the bandwagon of the day to save this poster or that, and has little to do with lobbying for justice for Maura and others.

No one I know appointed you as Moderator, say something for a change that is not judgemental.

peripeteia wrote:

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Yes INDEED Maura needs to be found,as well as other missing people, and the perpetrators of murder victims in NH; however we cannot do this unless anyone else comes forward with new information, unless of course you mean physically searching.
Sorry for my lack of clarity, but I am convinced, our job on the forum, was to get people to come forward with information and to draw attention to the public and police that additional resources are needed in cold cases. I do not see the view of the purpose of the forum as finding the answers, because they are evidentiary.

peri ~

i fully agree that the absence of new information has, for some time now, prevented any progress toward the discovery of why/when/from where Maura disappeared.

you seem satisfied that a cold case squad will press forward.

i trust that LE will also consider and unravel the precipitous events originating from the Amherst, if they have not already done so.

i disagree with you to the extent that i do not assume a personal obligation to find Maura or any other missing person, to include your mention of "...the perpetrators of murder victims in NH."
to accept such a personal burden seems unrealistic and impossible, IMO.

Benjamin Franklyne wrote:

I heard things.

Like what if you don't mind sharing.

White Wash wrote:

Speaking of threating this sounds to be a bit to me!
People who live in glass houses really should
learn not to throw rocks on this forum!
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It is not a threat but challenge for you to explain your so called FACTS. No threat but fact, I will be writing to police and ask how you know these things to be fact and will forward a copy of the post.

Trouble is you throw around things that are so called facts and no sources. Some of what you say is fact, but unless you are willing to prove what you say, you should not state it as fact.

No offense meant, you have done some great work, and take great pictures, but unless you say I feel, I think, I believe but to state things as fact in a criminal investigation, you need to stand up and be counted, and answer how you know these to be fact because the only source is the police who could state some of the things you state as fact.

And you state things that no one else states to be fact

You still not have answered the questions, or explained your so called facts, nice try at diversion, but I won't let it go since the DA has stated that no more information will be released as this on going investigation.

White Wash, you have times been very cruel and nasty to some of the posters, so don't talk about throwing stones, because what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

peripeteia wrote:

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Nor is the investigation influenced by your repeated pontification and if all so silly, what are you doing here, other than discussing what is appropriate or inappropriate since you believe Maura ran off to start a new life. You views amount to little more than jumping on the bandwagon of the day to save this poster or that, and has little to do with lobbying for justice for Maura and others.
No one I know appointed you as Moderator, say something for a change that is not judgemental.

you misstate my position.
my beliefs are solidly presented and speak for themselves.
i have no obligation to lobby for justice for anyone. i don't proclaim to be an activist.
your ideas seem quite off the mark on both forums....way out there; asking the same questions and spinning round and round. v. lengthy posts, as well.
such is my opinion in this free society. my country; here in the USA.
i intend to agree or disagree and/or back whomever i wish.

peri ~

i general, i do not support your ideas and beliefs specific to the disappearance of Maura Murray.
my opinion.
feel 'judged' if you wish. not my problem.

Peripeteia wrote:***Yes INDEED Maura needs to be found,as well as other missing people, and the perpetrators of murder victims in NH; however we cannot do this unless anyone else comes forward with new information***
Are you kidding? Do you really think anyone is going to come forward with information if they have any after reading your posts? You've reported WhiteWash and Suzanne so far today for their words. Who's next??? Not me because today will be the end of my posting here. I'm not wasting anymore of my time walking along riverbanks or in the woods only to be attacked and or accused of saying something not quite right and being reported for it. You Peri can come down here and do it. You seem to be able to give orders, report posters and get them in trouble, speak untruths and be an a** so maybe you can do better to find clues and facts than the people that live here.After all you know sooooo much and are soooo smart.
This MM forum has turned into a huge joke because of people like you.
I hope WW sees how her words are being used against her before you or someone else turn it into a legal issue.
As far as Suzanne goes I saw no threat.But then I don't see things that aren't there or hear them go bump in the night either.