Where is MAURA MURRAY

whiston wrote:

hi quija the article you are looking for was maybe written by Joe McGee .he was with the patriot ledger at the time .take care philip

Thanks Whiston. I'll check that article. For several years I've been looking for an article (not the one Paris/Just Me was nice enough to post here a while back) that began the story with how a friend of Maura's called to apologize to Maura's family for having been quoted "all wrong" in terms of saying how secretive and mysterious Maura was. The girlfriend was really broken up about how what she said came across. Anyway, maybe yours is the one! Merci.

whiston --- nope, that wasn't the article, but it was similar! I'll bet the one I'm looking for came AFTER that one since it included that apology from Maura's friend.

1. even tho i got obsessed with towing costs, I don't know if i really think towing occurred; i mean why was a girl IN the car then, behind (possibly) the airbags and having trouble getting out of the car because of the snowbank. Maybe someone can explain a towing scenario to me that has a person in the car being towed.

2. i reread the article about the barton, vt sighting at the church and it said that Mr. Stone didn't report it right away --- it wasn't until later (or "recently") when he saw her picture and realized it was Maura. I wonder what the date was that he reported the sighting?

whiston, all your ideas and directions are powerful because they seem to stimulate us into doing research!

quija wrote:

Maybe someone can explain a towing scenario to me that has a person in the car being towed.

I don't believe that there is an insurance company in the country that will allow a towing company to transport a car with the occupants inside the car.

Bill

hi quija i have never seen an article where someone apologised to the family for saying that Maura was secretive.the opposite is the case Kate Marcoupolos said it .Sarah Alfieri said it and has still not said which gallery she worked at with Maura .Katie Jones ,a friend of Mauras for many many years said that when Maura transferred to umaass amherst from westpoint she did not know until it was after she had moved.she also said they never visited each other on either campus.there were other people from her highschool track team that said similar things.from what i have read she was a very under the radar person which makes me wonder why.this is my opinion i am not knocking Maura in any way.there was a search in N.H. this past weekernd[july 4th holida]there is a report on the Maura Murray site take care philip

Where does this idea of Maura - or anyone else, for that matter - riding in the towed Saturn come from? No one would ever ride in a car being towed. They would ride in the tow truck. I don't get this.

It's still the same case... If the damage to the Saturn occurred in or near Amherst, then it's a very safe bet that the Saturn was towed to NH. No other way, realistically to get it there. If the damage occurred at or near Swiftwater, then the Saturn may or may not have been driven to NH.

There is no reason to believe that a tow truck, in the particular circumstance, would require a cash payment. Friend? Friend of a friend?

I'm not saying this is true of UMass, but it's not unusual for a towing company to have a cozy relationship with the person who car provide them with the authorization for towing a vehicle. Been known to happen.

"...cozy relationship with the person who CAN provide them with..." My typo.

This morning the Ford Expedition and trailer are being loaded by a friend of the guy who offered me the ex-priest rapist's library. The Expedition and trailer also are used to deposit storage unit/auction items at Brattleboro business owned by the same person who owns the property where the Sinclairs disappeared from 7 years ago.

So possibly there's a connection between the Sinclairs and the ex-priest rapist who apparently relayed phone calls from the Worcester County House of Correction to the search and rescue team looking for Molly Bish.

In other words, the person who owns the property from which the Sinclairs disappeared in 2001 has friends in common with the source of the books that were owned by the ex-priest rapist who himself was in direct phone contact with the people who were conducting a private search for Molly Bish in 2002 when her bathing suit was first discovered.

These same people are also the source of the extensive library of art books (among other things) sold at the local auctions, including some that obviously came from local homes and/or galleries, including one very expensive "Savoy Ballroom" art series by Umass art professor Richard Yarde. It is abundantly obvious to me that some of the people interested in buying some of these items from me associated themselves, in a vigilante kind of way, with the disappearance of Maura Murray.

The Brattleboro businessman was also an officer in a company CEO'd by a guy named A. Murray Sinclair.

Well… just more six degrees of separation, I guess. Reminds me of another six degrees. Bernard Barker knew Hugh Sloan who knew Maurice Stans who knew Richard Nixon. Oh, that's only four. I'm sure I can shoe-horn two others into this crazy conspiracy theory known as Watergate.

hi --- an earlier post of mine #2401 was labelled NUTS! haha. Did you not understand that i was saying it was unlikely to be towing a car and then quickly winding up IN the car? Was it because i questioned if a car (presumably empty) was being TOWED, why Maura (or another girl) was seen right after the noise/acceleration IN the car? If she was riding in the tow truck, as is the law, how would she next be seen wedged into the Saturn, behind airbags, with the car wedged into the snowbank!? I was saying it doesn't sound right.(Maybe i'm still not expressing this right, but, hey! i'm nuts! ha)

Take a look at this page! Looks like... someone just figured out how to "judge" the postings! haha! Oh, my!

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Hey Beagle,
Thanks for once again following up on the Saturn and re-confirming/concluding the source of damage.
My info came from an expert accident re-constructionist. It was, kindly, explained to me by Shack over on Maura's forum. Although I am not absolutely certain, I believe it was this individual's area of expertise while working in LE at a state level in NH until retirement.
I didn't inquire about specifics. I just wanted to know if it had been confirmed if the damage to the windshield was from the interior or exterior.

This is what I see on Maura's site after the accident report:
Links to pictures of damage to Maura's car taken in 2007:
Highlighted cracks in windshield - cracks are from inside out
http://www.mauramurraymissing.com/Documents.h...

quija wrote:

hi --- an earlier post of mine #2401 was labelled NUTS! haha. Did you not understand that i was saying it was unlikely to be towing a car and then quickly winding up IN the car? Was it because i questioned if a car (presumably empty) was being TOWED, why Maura (or another girl) was seen right after the noise/acceleration IN the car? If she was riding in the tow truck, as is the law, how would she next be seen wedged into the Saturn, behind airbags, with the car wedged into the snowbank!? I was saying it doesn't sound right.(Maybe i'm still not expressing this right, but, hey! i'm nuts! ha)

Sorry, quija nuts,

I get what you're saying.(I'm not the source of the "nuts.") At the risk of being extremely, painfully irreverent, she sat in a Sat Urn? Ouch! I can feel the heat already. I mention it only to show that an eye should be kept out for a person who has a learing disability such as dylexia or dysgraphia or something like htat.

quija wrote:

Take a look at this page! Looks like... someone just figured out how to "judge" the postings! haha! Oh, my!

Don't be envious. I have more than anybody and my collection is getting larger every day.

paris wrote:

<quoted text>This is what I see on Maura's site after the accident report:
Links to pictures of damage to Maura's car taken in 2007:
Highlighted cracks in windshield - cracks are from inside out
http://www.mauramurraymissing.com/Documents.h...

Sorry, I don't get it. How did you conclude from looking at the photo(s) that the crack is the result of something having hit the windshield from the inside?

Sorry if I'm being too personal here, but what is the connection, if any, between Paris and Just Me. Not trying to be nosey, just don't want to be redundant or needlessly offensive.

Just me is Paris. I thought she commented on that. I could be wrong.

Beaglebart, quija and all,

The Saturn could quite feasibly have been towed all the way from Amherst to Haverhill/Swiftwater with Maura (or someone looking like her) sitting in the cab of the tow-truck, as pointed out by Beagle.

Then, somehow the Saturn gets "droppped" accidentally by the tow-truck (perhaps because of severe frost-heaves on the road) somewhere in the Haverhill/Swiftwater area, likely on the Rt 112.
Possible result of this:
The first reported "mystery" accident.

For some reason Maura (or the Maura-look-alike) gets in the Saturn and keeps driving eastwards on the 112 in the direction of the Weathered Barn curve, which only is a few miles away from the likely first accident spot.

At the Weathered Barn curve the lady driver of the Saturn quite possibly has a real accident, spins round and the Saturn ends up facing the wrong way on the 112.

Perhaps the whole point of the exercise was to dump the Saturn somewhere further east along the 112 towards Lincoln in the midst of the National Park wilds.

The "helper" in the towing-truck follows closely behind the Saturn and picks Maura/Maura look-alike up at the Saturn before CS arrives on the spot.

Not an impossible scenario, I´d say.

By the way, does anybody know the condition of the Saturn´s tyres? Were they very worn?
Were they winter-tyres?

Thanks!

BeagleBart wrote:

<quoted text>Sorry, I don't get it. How did you conclude from looking at the photo(s) that the crack is the result of something having hit the windshield from the inside?

Hi, I've been reading all the new posts. Earlier Elsewhere was wondering about the crack, inside or out? I just went to her site and brought back the link to the page where it says the crack came from inside. This is what they have on their page and they keep their site updated, I'm sure.

See comment # 1839

Wow! I received 3 CLUELESS and 3 NUTS for just one post,#2407. That's sooooo un-ladylike. And the number keeps getting larger. Let's shoot for a record. I need six clueless nuts!

Holy... "Sounds like..." ...Zeus! Yes, the lady sounds like Zeus!

Six! Give me six!

(Sounds like Kobe Bryant after the first quarter.)