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hi Beagle and all.someone who was close to Maura at amherst or in her family knows why she left .the fact that not one single friend , teacher ,family member that knew Maura has posted here or on the old forum is very odd .with all due respect to Helena ,her information was second hand.She told us what she was told by whomever.why will Mauras, family not comment here or say anything about her prior life except we don't know or we deem it not important.how can a family not know ,class schedules, work schedules,etc.coach Lafreniere emailed me and said that Muara never ran a race for amherst.she did in 2002 [thanks to looking4amoose]when the team was in richmond V.A. they had there own circle of hope ceremony for Maura.where the hell are all those so called team mates and coaches..they could well have shared Mauras schedule or given her rides to a shared clinicals.i can only assume that they do not care but i really have a hard time with that.i am more inclined to think they were asked to lay low.can anyone name a missing person,adult or child where video was not shown right away.THINK ,Brucia the girl at the car wash,Bennet ,cumberland farms etc what is on those tapes that is such a secret.Beagle,amateurs win the olympics and it is only futile after is proven wrong.take care philip
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things that struck me:

neat-freak Maura living in an unpacked room.

girl on her floor (and i KNOW dorm floors!!!) not even knowing she lived there after at least a week into the new semester.

Maura possibly staying off-campus with a friend, one that caused ???? emotional upheaval for maura because of Billy??? This would also explain a possible driveway for her leave the Saturn.

Why wasn't the saturn cleaned out, vacuumed, etc. by someone as neat as Maura if she was just about to trade it in??? That would sound more like her.

was there ever any evidence that she might've broken into a seasonally locked-up restroom at the Jigger Johnson State Park, if it WAS indeed her in Haverhill, IF she WAS the one running on 112???

No-one ever (IIRC) responded to my question on the old MMM board: Did Maura have one of those thin-thermal-blanket things in her trunk emergency kit --- either included IN the kit or added to it? That would've helped if she was trying to get through the night.

Please consider the importance of how little she took with her, how these items represented a small collection of things from people she loved, possibly for comfort, for support, for courage.
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hi quija and all,great questions once again we are back to the family would know what was in the emegency kit in the saturn and .mrMrray ,if i remember, said the famous towel in the tail pipe came from Mauras trunk in the emergency kit. what was on the computer which Kathleen and Tim had for a few months and did nothing with.Julie and Billy are westpoint grads...why will they not post what was given to them and then taken back by N.H.P.D.right around the time of the Raykel episode in Barton V.T.what was in the saturn that we know , joseph .B.C.Pills which prove nothing.a AAA card depending on who you ask ,gloves ,the contents of the black bag photographed by Amelia Kunhardt.speaking of that does she have more than the 2 or 3 photos that were published .i am assuming she saw the contents of the bag. i emailed her ,she did respond,but it was basically thanks for the card have you talked to the family or friends .The sex offenders registry for that whole area is sickening .what about Moulten , knife,confession ,carpet.did this add up to nothing .take care philip
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Jul 15, 2008
 
Great questions are being asked here! Great thinking! Good to see it! The pieces will fit together after all.

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quija wrote:
Please consider the importance of how little she took with her, how these items represented a small collection of things from people she loved, possibly for comfort, for support, for courage.
Or possibly because she intended to return them. I mean absolutely no disrespect whatsoever to Maura's boyfriend Bill Rausch with these thoughts, but we have been told that their relationship had its rocky points in the past -- and what relationship doesn't?-- maybe Maura, for whatever reason, had determined she didn't want to marry him after all. This could explain (1) her upset at work in the wee hours of Friday Feb 6 (earlier she had talked with a sister and the sister was having boyfriend problems, maybe the conversation caused Maura to think about boyfriend problems of her own and caused a realization that she no longer wanted to be in her relationship)...(2) why she urgently needed some time away (privacy to think, to work through her feelings, to gather courage to make a breakup)...(3) why she would head to the White Mtns (a kind of spiritual base for her)...(4) why Bill heard what sounded like whimpering or muffled crying on the cellphone message he received but she didn't actually leave a verbal message (she was going to tell him her decision, but of course not leave it in a message). It could explain why she never used the cellphone again, because it was on his cellphone plan and being paid for by him or his family and she didn't want to "take" anything from them under the new circumstances.
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Jul 15, 2008
 
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Or possibly because she intended to return them. I mean absolutely no disrespect whatsoever to Maura's boyfriend Bill Rausch with these thoughts, but we have been told that their relationship had its rocky points in the past -- and what relationship doesn't?-- maybe Maura, for whatever reason, had determined she didn't want to marry him after all. This could explain (1) her upset at work in the wee hours of Friday Feb 6 (earlier she had talked with a sister and the sister was having boyfriend problems, maybe the conversation caused Maura to think about boyfriend problems of her own and caused a realization that she no longer wanted to be in her relationship)...(2) why she urgently needed some time away (privacy to think, to work through her feelings, to gather courage to make a breakup)...(3) why she would head to the White Mtns (a kind of spiritual base for her)...(4) why Bill heard what sounded like whimpering or muffled crying on the cellphone message he received but she didn't actually leave a verbal message (she was going to tell him her decision, but of course not leave it in a message). It could explain why she never used the cellphone again, because it was on his cellphone plan and being paid for by him or his family and she didn't want to "take" anything from them under the new circumstances.
This really makes a lot of sense. It covers all the bases and just seems to "gel." It is an especially good explanation of the cell phone mystery. Maybe the feelings of someone who might get deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan were taken into consideration first. Good thinking, here!
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Jul 15, 2008
 
Did I see something about the Russell Road area in Arlandria? I don't understand how that is connected to this. Maybe because of the George Washington Memorial in Alexandria? Seems very far-fetched to me.

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whiston wrote:
hi Beagle and all.someone who was close to Maura at amherst or in her family knows why she left .the fact that not one single friend , teacher ,family member that knew Maura has posted here or on the old forum is very odd .with all due respect to Helena ,her information was second hand.She told us what she was told by whomever.why will Mauras, family not comment here or say anything about her prior life except we don't know or we deem it not important.how can a family not know ,class schedules, work schedules,etc.coach Lafreniere emailed me and said that Muara never ran a race for amherst.she did in 2002 [thanks to looking4amoose]when the team was in richmond V.A. they had there own circle of hope ceremony for Maura.where the hell are all those so called team mates and coaches..they could well have shared Mauras schedule or given her rides to a shared clinicals.i can only assume that they do not care but i really have a hard time with that.i am more inclined to think they were asked to lay low.can anyone name a missing person,adult or child where video was not shown right away.THINK ,Brucia the girl at the car wash,Bennet ,cumberland farms etc what is on those tapes that is such a secret.Beagle,amateurs win the olympics and it is only futile after is proven wrong.take care philip
whiston, There were friends and family that posted on both of the old forums. I recall her supervisor posting several times. Maybe her friends had nothing additional to add as they had all made statements to LE. To be perfectly honest here, I wish I had saved a lot more from the 2 forums. I can see it is frustrating trying to find information after so long. Maura had a very close group of friends whom had kept in touch since grade school.
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hi all.when Sharon R checked Mauras phone bill what else could she had learned.could she have learned who called Maura.was her voice mail checked i am assuming that Maura got calls from everyone who cared about her for many weeks or months after she vanished just in case.i am assuming that her access code was not a big secret to the phone company or family and any calls would go right to voicemail.who was or was not on calling that should have called.the call to Bartlett N.H.was not to the Salamones in N.H. they were not there at the time.did Billys valentine card ever show up in Mauras mail box. how did Maura get the number for the the Salamones condo in N.H.This has never been stated i know she had directions to Bartlett but these were ,i think hand written,why,there was no mention of a phone number being found .please help me with this timeline and any ideas. take care philip
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Jul 15, 2008
 
hi Anne , and all.i know Karen Mayotte [Mauras' supervisor]posted twice on the last forum .i think a cousin or 2 may have posted on the first forum.how many family members actually knew or met Maura and where did they get there information.again where did our facts come from.if Mauras life was so great why would she leave.was she helping someone close to her.take care philip
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Jul 15, 2008
 
hi all ,as Anne said 'Maura had a very close group of friends whom had kept in touch since grade school' where are they and what did they know about her life .take care philip

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Re Maura's call to the Salamones: "The next day, Monday, Feb. 9, Maura made a number of phone calls.

Just before 1 p.m. she called Dominic and Linda Salamone, a couple who own a rental condominium at the Seasons at Attitash Resort in Bartlett, New Hampshire. Maura's family, which frequented the Bartlett area, had stayed at the Seasons, though never at this condominium.

The Salamones don't remember the conversation with Maura but they are certain she did not book their condominium. To do so on such short notice would have been impossible, explained Linda Salamone. "We don't operate like a hotel." Rentals must be booked far in advance in order for the Salamones to drop a key in the mail.

The call to the Salamones lasted about three minutes, records show. Linda Salamone speculates she might have offered Maura recommendations on other places to stay, though her memory was foggy by the time police finally interviewed her - nearly a year after Maura went missing." [from article by Maribeth Conway in South Shore Express this spring]

No indication where Maura got their number. Could have been online if she was checking on the Seasons at Attitash. Her checking about a condo rental kind of suggests she was looking for a place that had a kitchen, not just a room to sleep in.

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Advocator wrote:
Re Maura's call to the Salamones: "The next day, Monday, Feb. 9, Maura made a number of phone calls.
Just before 1 p.m. she called Dominic and Linda Salamone, a couple who own a rental condominium at the Seasons at Attitash Resort in Bartlett, New Hampshire. Maura's family, which frequented the Bartlett area, had stayed at the Seasons, though never at this condominium.
The Salamones don't remember the conversation with Maura but they are certain she did not book their condominium. To do so on such short notice would have been impossible, explained Linda Salamone. "We don't operate like a hotel." Rentals must be booked far in advance in order for the Salamones to drop a key in the mail.
The call to the Salamones lasted about three minutes, records show. Linda Salamone speculates she might have offered Maura recommendations on other places to stay, though her memory was foggy by the time police finally interviewed her - nearly a year after Maura went missing." [from article by Maribeth Conway in South Shore Express this spring]
No indication where Maura got their number. Could have been online if she was checking on the Seasons at Attitash. Her checking about a condo rental kind of suggests she was looking for a place that had a kitchen, not just a room to sleep in.
Good post Advocator, If you are a timeshare owner, most rentals are placed through an outside agency, whom may have notified Maura that the Salamones unit was available.

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was there ever any evidence that she might've broken into a seasonally locked-up restroom at the Jigger Johnson State Park, if it WAS indeed her in Haverhill, IF she WAS the one running on 112???

Can't answer many of your questions...but I do know there are NO bathrooms at Jigger Johnson. All thcampgrounds in that section of 112 are state run, no facility campgrounds. You drive in put your $ in a box and rough it. A couple at the other end of 112 are the same way.

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Correction--Jigger Johnson now has toilets and showers!!!
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hi advocator, my thought was that Maura never spoke with the Salomones they just happened to have owned a condo at attitash.they dont know if they spoke with Maura.did she call to speak with someone she was meeting.we don't know yet.who else that Maura might know would be there.did the Salamones actually run part of or the whole resort.this is not the same as Maura calling the Salamones by any stretch.i am trying to dig up a fact here and not be critical of anybody.was ther an outside agency for the condo or condos .i am still trying to dig up a phone number for the Salamones.did they have any connection to stowe V.T. take care philip
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Jul 15, 2008
 
hi all the day Maura left she called a umass dorm.' the number appeared to be a dead end as the person had moved on'.what the hell does that mean.who left in february. who had access to the empty room.who was supposed to move in . take care philip
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Jul 15, 2008
 
Philip, I suspect they mean (and may have in fact said in the article) "has now moved on."

Meaning simply if you had an on-campus phone number one year while you were in Room A, when you moved the next year to Room B, you had a different phone number.

Another possibility, if the number was off-campus (I don't recall it being specified) in college towns a lot of phone numbers turn over very quickly, as students rent off-campus housing each year. But my assessment was that it seemed to have been a campus number. Someone assigned to a room that was gone the next year--NOT in February, as you posit here.

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whiston wrote:
hi advocator, my thought was that Maura never spoke with the Salomones they just happened to have owned a condo at attitash.
If she were headed toward Attitash, then 112 is way off base. The resorts at Attitash/Bear Peak are right on 302. Where in Vermont was Maura searching for directions for? Was it another ski/resort area?

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whiston wrote:
hi advocator, my thought was that Maura never spoke with the Salomones they just happened to have owned a condo at attitash.they dont know if they spoke with Maura.did she call to speak with someone she was meeting.we don't know yet.who else that Maura might know would be there.did the Salamones actually run part of or the whole resort.this is not the same as Maura calling the Salamones by any stretch.i am trying to dig up a fact here and not be critical of anybody.was ther an outside agency for the condo or condos .i am still trying to dig up a phone number for the Salamones.did they have any connection to stowe V.T. take care philip
whiston, Attitash resort is a timeshare community where rentsls are sublet to an outside group. They possibly forwarded her request for a rental to the Salamones whom she did speak to.
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