Where is MAURA MURRAY

Birds80 wrote:

Would Atwood's DNA/fingerprints be taken as as possible last person to have seen her? Or would he, his vehicle and or home be searched for evidence as to her having been there.

A search would only have been performed with permission, as there wasn't any grounds for obtaining a warrant.

I know he grew less cooperative as time passed, but I can't recall at this time if he agreed to allow his property to be searched. Anyone? Mcsmom? I know you have good notes.

Birds80 wrote:

Is why I am astonished to read he was the person involved in the disappearance of a young woman

There is no factual evidence that indicates he WAS involved in the disappearance of a young woman. Hey may be the last person to reliably see Maura (if indeed it WAS Maura, about which there has been some doubt among some people, including a few investigators)

The Atwood's I remember didnt' "retire to Florida."

I've no idea what that might mean, but I can assure you that Butch Atwood & Co. did, in fact, move to Florida.

At age 58 he moved to Florida. Did he find a better job or just retire?

Birds80 wrote:

Early environment has a lot to do with how a person develops as an adult and Atwood didn't have such a good childhood. Nasty business breeds nasty people. Is why I am astonished to read he was the person involved in the disappearance of a young woman and I think he was questioned and released after giving his statement, which seems to have happened. The Atwood's I remember didnt' "retire to Florida."

And neither did Boo Radley.

Birds80 wrote:

At age 58 he moved to Florida. Did he find a better job or just retire?

My recall is that it was Atwood's elderly mother who owned the house on Rt. 112, Atwood and his former wife were living there with Atwood's mother. The mother wanted to move to Florida, so the house was put up for sale and all of them went to Florida.

I also recall that the MMM forum was told that the Atwood property had been searched, but exactly when I don't know.

Thanks Dog
Tried to inject some insight as a person who knew one player (and not in a good way as you may surmise).

It was a rusty, Lie-Nielsen block plane iron, wasn't it? LDS firm, you worked for. You knew how long it took me to write that short email.

Was the Mother's name Viola?

Sorry, was Mother's name Violet

FireCat wrote:

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According to some reports, the number is simply described as a "dead end." That could mean any number of things.
Why is everyone so insistent that every bit of information not known indicates a cover-up? Can't some of it simply be "we don't know"?

I wasn't thinking about "cover-up" as such. It's just that if Maura actually spoke with someone during that phone call, that person would be among the last few people to talk to her -- a point that may or may not be significant, but one hopes that the authorities did follow this matter out to a conclusion. It's not necessary for the authorities or anyone else to tell us everything they know. I am simply curious about the call.

You got it.

Advocator wrote:

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I wasn't thinking about "cover-up" as such. It's just that if Maura actually spoke with someone during that phone call, that person would be among the last few people to talk to her -- a point that may or may not be significant, but one hopes that the authorities did follow this matter out to a conclusion. It's not necessary for the authorities or anyone else to tell us everything they know. I am simply curious about the call.

On the other hand, police didn't call the Salamones for how many months......but yes, Advocator, one can certainly hope that police did follow at least SOME leads as far as they could.:-/ A "dead end" comment doesn't really give an indication either way, does it. It could mean "didn't pan out" or "couldn't FIND out."

Report on checking out "Raykel" at the church in VT. I called the church today, left a message asking to have someone call me back, no one has yet. Of course, during week-days many churches are not "populated".

Advocator wrote:

Report on checking out "Raykel" at the church in VT. I called the church today, left a message asking to have someone call me back, no one has yet. Of course, during week-days many churches are not "populated".

Thanks, Advocator.

As all who know me, will attest, I have to go back to read, as I am well over the age of 60. I found this dated May 13, here in Topix by
Lady Paris, Silkyboxer's friend,...and mine.
"Where are their backbone.....good question. Is it that police won't do anything about it when the people come to them? Is it that the police do not like and/or pick on the ones who do try to make things right? Is there a known way to be in order to avoid being harrased by police because you won't just let something go?
If I lived in the mountains and knew there was crime going on I'd go to the town meetings, the governor, the police too. If that didn't get them answering and making account, I'd press on, contacting reporters, news people and so on. Because I am sure that some people have tried this, I have to think it's one sorry thing. The police are in cahoots, not on the up and up.
What would I do after I did all I could do and there still was no change, no focus and/or attention drawn to the area crime(s)?
I realize the police have every right and good reason to keep things close to the vest. But not this group in NH. I've read about Liko Kenny. I think this is a good example of harrassment from police and questionable charactors. I realize that Mr. Liko may have stood out, but he did nothing to seal his fate in all accounts/visuals that I've seen. He was afraid, he was killed and it seems as though he will remain at fault in his own death until something changes.
Maura......
Even if it's just a matter of sloppy police work, they should be accountable, approachable and made to either change or quit the force. Easy for me to say, yeah maybe... But why do they seem untouchable? Are they really to big a ring to break?"
My apologies to those who read and retain. I just feel that there are some priggish intellectuals who tend to undermine the sincere meaning of
why this Maura Murray Topix was even originated by Local Yocal this past Spring.
Most of the Posts don't mention Maura Murray or Fred Murray...I have learned the meaning of STFU...but, I wouldn't think of using it in a sentence.
I will leave that to those of you who use this Forum for your drama and entertainment.
Just Me/Paris..or whoever the heck you are tonight..I haven't moved. Tonight I am with the Bullwinkle Bank.
Maura, so many of us want to find out about your drunken, flirtatious, pole dancing, unstable life......"Girl, just wait 'til I get you home"....

Pwofeassahs dont gib no gowd stahs????

Dwat!!!

It's going to take me at least two days to recover from that revelation.

Shack wrote:

As all who know me, will attest, I have to go back to read, as I am well over the age of 60. I found this dated May 13, here in Topix by
Lady Paris, Silkyboxer's friend,...and mine.
"Where are their backbone.....good question. Is it that police won't do anything about it when the people come to them? Is it that the police do not like and/or pick on the ones who do try to make things right? Is there a known way to be in order to avoid being harrased by police because you won't just let something go?
If I lived in the mountains and knew there was crime going on I'd go to the town meetings, the governor, the police too. If that didn't get them answering and making account, I'd press on, contacting reporters, news people and so on. Because I am sure that some people have tried this, I have to think it's one sorry thing. The police are in cahoots, not on the up and up.
What would I do after I did all I could do and there still was no change, no focus and/or attention drawn to the area crime(s)?
I realize the police have every right and good reason to keep things close to the vest. But not this group in NH. I've read about Liko Kenny. I think this is a good example of harrassment from police and questionable charactors. I realize that Mr. Liko may have stood out, but he did nothing to seal his fate in all accounts/visuals that I've seen. He was afraid, he was killed and it seems as though he will remain at fault in his own death until something changes.
Maura......
Even if it's just a matter of sloppy police work, they should be accountable, approachable and made to either change or quit the force. Easy for me to say, yeah maybe... But why do they seem untouchable? Are they really to big a ring to break?"
My apologies to those who read and retain. I just feel that there are some priggish intellectuals who tend to undermine the sincere meaning of
why this Maura Murray Topix was even originated by Local Yocal this past Spring.
Most of the Posts don't mention Maura Murray or Fred Murray...I have learned the meaning of STFU...but, I wouldn't think of using it in a sentence.
I will leave that to those of you who use this Forum for your drama and entertainment.
Just Me/Paris..or whoever the heck you are tonight..I haven't moved. Tonight I am with the Bullwinkle Bank.
Maura, so many of us want to find out about your drunken, flirtatious, pole dancing, unstable life......"Girl, just wait 'til I get you home"....

Welcome to the mosh pit. True, it's a rough crowd, but if you look carefully, you'll see some really great dancing, too.

Shack,

Coming across HB 1499 was a real mind blower.......

The photos Helena posted on the forum those final few days spoke volumes. Especially the ones of Fred & Laurie. I called my mom and spoke to her about it.

Given that my mom outlived one of her own children and my dad gave up his battle with cancer and died the same year as my sister she understood what I was seeing.

Advocator,

Many thanks for your kindness in calling the Barton church where "Raykel" was seen three years ago.
Much appreciated indeed!
Somehow, it wouldn´t altogether surprise me if the church´s visitors book for the year 2005 may prove impossible to locate.
Or am I just being too conspiratorial in my mind here?
Again - thanks!

Hello all,

I don´t seem able to stop thinking about that first "mystery" accident which may well have involved Maura´s Saturn a short while before it ended up at the Weather Barn curve in Swiftwater.

Could Maura (if she was the driver of the Saturn) have had some kind of accident on either the 302/10 between Woodsville and the 112 turn-off or alternatively on the 112 between the 302/10 junction and Swiftwater village?
Is it possible that she ran into a guardrail somewhere or somehow ended up in a ditch or whatever, and that the major damage to the Saturn´s front could have happened then?
Unable to continue, she somehow succeeds in calling a towing-truck, although there seems to be no AAA logs of any incidents in the whole of Grafton County for this.

If you have a peek at the yellow pages directory for Haverhill on the web, you will notice that there is a towing firm (apparently taking AAA calls) located on the rte 302 just a mile or half a mile north of the rte 302/rte 112 junction, some 4-5 miles north of Woodsville.

Just an observation, which may not mean anything.
Still...