Where is MAURA MURRAY

I don't know what the question of my driving fortitude/perseverance has to do with Maura..
But, yes ..I would drive my 95 Saturn on 3 cylinders, in February, to Woodsville, NH....
a 3 hour trip but, now that I am nearing 70 yo, I would leave at 2 to arrive at 5PM,(dark)
because of my old eyesight.....However, in previous years..twaddle!..piece of cake.....!

Hey Granny Grunt - Shack,

Done an O.J. lately?(wink)

On a more serious note..........

According to the experts Maura was a victim of opportunity. The person(s) responsible for her disappearance was a stranger serial rapist. A local who lives and works in the area.

Over the past four years it has been stated by one particular expert that the perpetrator has done it twice before.

According to the experts Maura was murdered in an effort to conceal/destroy proof or evidence of the perpetrator's criminal actions.

Side note,

I posted the above findings on Maura's forum at least twice and Helena thanked me each time I did.

For those whom may not be aware, the word twice is a red flag.

A perpetrator is deemed a serial criminal after he/she/they have committed the same type of crime three times in a row.

Hello all,

I was looking for a list of "running" races in NH and found an alphabetical compilation of annual events listed on the www.newrunner.com web site.

I could only find one annual "running" race in Woodsville (in aid of the Cottage Hospital there, incidentally located on what is called Swiftwater Road)and one in Bartlett.
Unlikely that Maura ever took part in either of these events, but considering the hospital connection in Woodsville, who knows???

Although it is evident that a dedicated and compassionate group of individuals mean well by 'investigating' Maura's heartbreaking disappearance, I question whether the 24/7 conjecture and wild accusations will ever conclude with the an answer to the question.

It is fascinating to observe the shifting loyalties, the departures and return of posters, the squabbles and partial resolutions.

Not unlike the Liko Kenney/Bruce McKay threads, the immediate family of Maura Murray is apparently absent from the conversation. Note, please...I said 'immediate' family.

Consider, also, the possibility that this subject and thread has taken on a life of its own. Personalities seem to be compulsively invested in the process of commenting and sleuthing that is based on fantasy as much as fact. It often appears unbalanced and irrational to observers.

A similar challenge exists on the aforementioned threads that relate to Kenney/McKay/Floyd. Wild speculation can sometimes take the place of rationality.

ADVOCATOR Thank You for finding the post. I feel better now.

quija wrote:

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Hi Gymeabrk-- I'm not sure that #1 was a documented fact or comment. It just doesn't sound right to me --- seriously, does it sound like something that would be uttered out loud? It's sure provocative but judging by the look on kathleen's face in photos around that time, she seemed lost and heartbroken, and sort of beaten-down. What do you (yourself) make of that posted comment? If i said that about a sib, it'd be an off-the-cuff kind of irritable thing, before knowing it was a truly serious situation, not for "real".
#2 I never heard it 'til now. I wonder where that comment appeared? Guess we'll all be checking up on it.

The only place that comment appeared was HERE.

Shack wrote:

I don't know what the question of my driving fortitude/perseverance has to do with Maura..
But, yes ..I would drive my 95 Saturn on 3 cylinders, in February, to Woodsville, NH....
a 3 hour trip but, now that I am nearing 70 yo, I would leave at 2 to arrive at 5PM,(dark)
because of my old eyesight.....However, in previous years..twaddle!..piece of cake.....!

Thank you. Seems, then, to a 21 year old, driving Saturn in similar condition from Amherst to Haverhill after dark in February would have been a "piece of cake," nothing to it. Local driving must have been even less of a concern? Possibly Saturn used in Amherst area more often than previously believed?

Anyone know the color of Fred's Corolla?

FireCat wrote:

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The only place that comment appeared was HERE.

Not surprisingly, either.

FireCat wrote:

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The only place that comment appeared was HERE.

Are you referring to comment #1, sniffin or both?

Sniffin's comment that he overheard Kathleen. Although apparently Helena is aware of this comment, so perhaps it's been said elsewhere, verbally or in print. Or maybe she read it here.

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Not surprisingly, either.

Hey, aren't you supposed to be in the dog house???

If Saturn was running adequately to use in Amherst area, why did Maura take Fred's Corolla Saturday night? Where was she going to drive Corolla on Saturday night/Sunday morning that she couldn't drive the Saturn? Or walk to? Or go with Fred to? Or take a bus to?

Any reason other than combustion failure in one cylinder to not drive Saturn locally just one day, Sunday, especially if it could be driven without too much of a problem from Amherst to Haverhill after dark one day later?

Why didn't Fred just drive back Corolla to Quality Inn from ABC and Maura walk the 10-15 minutes back to her dorm? Or why didn't Fred drop Maura off at her dorm or wherever she was going?

Was Corolla parked in UMass parking lot without a sticker? Parked within the SW complex? Or in visitor lot a good distance from SW?

Seems excessive for Maura to take Corolla, with no UMass parking sticker, Saturday night just to elimiate a 10-15 minute walk back to campus from ABC when Fred could have given her a ride there and gone on to his motel.

Didn't Fred and Maura look at cars on Saturday and were planning to look further on Sunday?

FireCat wrote:

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Hey, aren't you supposed to be in the dog house???

No, Quija's in dog house. I'm on beach watching Red Sox. It's between innings just now.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Hey Granny Grunt - Shack,
Done an O.J. lately?(wink)
On a more serious note..........
According to the experts Maura was a victim of opportunity. The person(s) responsible for her disappearance was a stranger serial rapist. A local who lives and works in the area.
Over the past four years it has been stated by one particular expert that the perpetrator has done it twice before.
According to the experts Maura was murdered in an effort to conceal/destroy proof or evidence of the perpetrator's criminal actions.

Just curious. Who were the experts? Thank you.

Beagle,

I believe I've already mentioned them time and time again.

Dr. Maurice Godwin
A former FBI Profiler
A Retired NH State Trooper
H.P. Albarelli
John Philpin

I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two.

Just My Opinion,

Write me off as some ditz with an overactive imagination, it doesn't heart my feelings any.

Well everyone,

I believe I have said and done all that I can on this particular topix forum.

For those whom know me from Maura's forum I will hope that you take the time to visit and read my new blog.

As always, Maura and her family are in my thoughts and prayers.

Kim & Beau (woof)

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Beagle,
I believe I've already mentioned them time and time again.
Dr. Maurice Godwin
A former FBI Profiler
A Retired NH State Trooper
H.P. Albarelli
John Philpin
I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two.
Just My Opinion,
Write me off as some ditz with an overactive imagination, it doesn't heart my feelings any.

I was not aware of where you had posted this information before. Not writing you off as ditz or hurt your feelings. Just wanted to know who these experts were. Nothing more. Thank you for the information. It is appreciated.

Hello all,

Found this list of NH cabins on the web site www.nhdirectory.com

It would seem that there are a number of places offering cabins for hire which are open also during the winter months in the Lincoln/North Woodstock area.

New Hampshire Cabins & Cottages
A Guide to NH's Rustic and Waterside Lodging

Ashland - Squam Point Lodge
Bartlett - A Better Life Cabins & Campground
Bartlett - Crawford Notch Cabins - Cabins in the heart of the White Mountains
Bethlehem - Hearthside Village Cottage Motel - Authentic motor court continuously operating since the 1930's
Center Harbor - Savoie's Lodging & Camping
Clarksville - Rudy's Cabins and Campground - Secluded with a fly-fishing pond
Conway - Sunny Brook Cottages
Errol - Great Northwoods Get-A-Way Cabin Rentals
Errol - Paradise Point Cottage - On Lake Umbagog, fully furnished & open year round
Freedom - Cody Outdoor Center - Accommodation, meals, team building, educational programs, ski packages, and retreats for groups of 20-500 people
Georges Mills - Georges Mills Cottages
Holderness - White Oak Motel & Cottages
Jefferson - Josselyn's Sawmill
Jefferson - Westwind Cottages
Laconia - Lighthouse Inn Bed & Breakfast
Laconia - Remember Me Cottages
Laconia - NASWA Resort
Lincoln - Green Village Cabins
Lincoln - Pemi Cabins
Lincoln - White Mountain Motel & Cottages
Lincoln - Woodward's Resort Motel
Lisbon - Rustic Log Cabins
New Hampton - Stevens NH Cottage Rentals
North Conway - Old Red Inn & Cottages
North Conway - Spruce Moose Lodge & Cottages - Pet Friendly!
North Woodstock - Riverbank Motel and Cabins
North Woodstock - The Maple Lodge
Pittsburg - Bear Tree Rental - Housekeeping Cabins & Lodge
Pittsburg - North Country Lodge & Cabins - Waterfront cabins & lodge & rooms: restaurant & bar on premises
Pittsburg - Partridge Cabins
Pittsburg - Powderhorn Cabins & Lodge
Pittsburg - Ramblewoods Cabins
Pittsburg - Snowfield Housekeeping Cabins
Pittsburg - Spruce Cone Cabins
Pittsfield - Graylag - Three thoughtfully renovated housekeeping cabins on 75 acres with private waterfront on small pristine lake
Plymouth - Pilgrim Inn and Cottages
Randolph - Jefferson Notch Motel & Cabins
Rye - Hoyt's Lodges - Cottages by the sea
Spofford - Old New England Village - Welcoming visitors since 1964
Sunapee - Sunapee Harbor Cottages
Thornton - Gilcrest Cottages & Motel
Twin Mountain - Boulder Motor Court
Twin Mountain - Johnson's Motel and Cottages
Twin Mountain - Patio Motor Court - Newly renovated houskeeping cabins, Jacuzzi, Sauna,Pool, free game room
Twin Mountain - Twin Mountain RV Park & Cottages
Warner - Turtle Pond Farm B&B Cottages
Weirs Beach - Lazy E Motor Inn
Weirs Beach - Lighthouse Cottages
Weirs Beach - Proctors Lakehouse Cottages - Paugus Bay lakefront cottages
Weirs Beach - Sun Valley Cottages
Weirs Beach - Tower Hill Cottages
Winnisquam - Phillips House and Cottages