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FireCat
United States
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elsewherebriefly wrote: <quoted text>
In the chain of evidence report of items found in Maura's car the bottles of liqour and all of Maura's underwear were missing. I also forgot to mention this. Yaz. Yo. Hold up. Presumably, it was standard for her to wear and/or pack some? Could a member of her family identify that there was some missing? Because I confess that I've traveled places, opened up my suitcase, and forgotten some pretty interesting things. Was it ever established as likely there had been some? Some people don't, and she may have forgotten. But if it's MISSING-missing...... .....that just ain't right.
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Joined: Jun 10, 2008
Comments: 299
Woonsocket, RI
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Shack wrote: ....
Looking4..yeh watch those racy comments!..piffle...
(and hope you are aware of the wash-out on 112
east of Bradley Hill Rd..perhaps by the time you
get there, it will be repaired.) Shack, RACY! RACY! I'm a friggin hick from a small town in the smallest state in the country and spend 30% of my time in an even smaller town in NH!did I mention I spent my summers as a kid in a tiny tiny town in Canada. Heck I think Providence is a big city!!! Of all things RACY! Sorry----maybe its a compliment?!! LOL Thanks for the info on 112--I wasn't aware. Do yoiu know if its between Bradley Hill and Swiftwater Circle? I'll email Mt Lakes to see if its been repaired yet.
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whiston
Meriden, CT
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hi Firecat and Shack.my wife is the smartone in the family,i got the looks.anyway she somehow stored it before it shut down.Shack i will figure out how to get you a dvd of the Montel Williams show.now i am back to ,where did the facts come from, the press or the Murrays.we all make honest mistakes.take care philip
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Joined: Jul 8, 2008
Comments: 206
Middletown, VA
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Moose, The news stated 5 miles in Bath on 112 to Bradley Hill closed due to mudslide, no timeline to open it. More rain coming! Ugg! Whiston, Thanks to your wife.
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White Wash
Lebanon, NH
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I think you'll like this article! Well Jerry when someone takes the time to meet with LE,family,neighbors,those on scene I guess you think you know something like there are photos no they where not released with the report.I have been assured by many on this forum I don't know anything so will take my lifted leg and leave you to those who have assured me I know nothing about this case and have nothing useful to add. http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2004... The accident couldn't have been that bad. One little nick on a tree is all that marks the scene other than the missing posters family and friends stapled up. Damage to the Saturn sedan was minimal, but Murray's head cracked the windshield. The front of the car was pushed in. Jerry Fletcher wrote: White Wash...…again, you seem to know a lot about what the police have ‘allegedly’ done in the Murray case.
At some point you mentioned that the police took pictures of the car. Did you see those pictures?
Were they released with the accident report? If they were released has anybody else seen them? I know there are pictures of the car that were posted on MMM, but IIRC those were taken later.
If you saw the pictures, is the damage the same? If they were released, why didn’t the Hanson Express or those at MMM post the pictures? Does anybody know…Mcsmom?
It seems that it would be important to verify that the damage recorded in photos that night (or perhaps the next day) was the same as the damage visible in the pictures taken at a later date. Does anybody know when those pictures were taken?
I agree with the questions about the search warrant. Why did the police get a search warrant for the car?
Does anybody know whether they followed through with the Umass parking authority about who the parking sticker was issued to that year?
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elsewherebriefly
Shallotte, NC
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Firecat, Yes, you are undeniably correct and it is something I've wondered about time and time again. There is most definately the possibility that Maura neglected to pack any underwear to begin with. It was a family member who brought up the subject of the items that were missing so this is why I've held on to the possibility that the underwear may have been amist her belongings and had possibly been removed. Shack, The watch her dad gave her? I had a bulky diving watch for years and I rarely ever removed it from my wrist. I'd be more apt to believe the watch may have caused the crack in the winshield rather than Maura's head. I'm not an expert accident reconstructionist thought and I'm sticking by his findings.
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White Wash
Lebanon, NH
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Jerry if you go to the Journal Opinion and view the Sept Search photos and then go to the Hanson Express you'll find the same Photo printed without the permission of the Journal Opinion now it's my turn to ask WHO IS WHITE WASHING WHOM on facts? Happy researching it's all out there for you to find and probably time better spent than slapping each other around!
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FireCat
United States
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White Wash wrote: Happy researching it's all out there for you to find and probably time better spent than slapping each other around! Goodness. That makes it sound rather as if you've already solved the case and know where Maura is, and are taunting us. Hopefully you aren't that sadistic.
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FireCat
United States
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White Wash wrote: Jerry if you go to the Journal Opinion and
view the Sept Search photos and then go to the Hanson
Express you'll find the same Photo printed without the
permission of the Journal Opinion now it's my turn
to ask WHO IS WHITE WASHING WHOM on facts? Now THAT actually depends on who owns the copyright to those photos. If those photos weren't taken by the JO, they don't necessarily own them, and the Hanson Express doesn't need their permission to do bubkes. I can't believe with all the mishandled evidence, confusion, and a missing woman, you're focusing on what may or may not be a copyright issue. No, wait. Yes I can. Does the ownership of the photos have to do directly with the case; that is to say, will settling that help find Maura? If the answer is yes, then carry on. Otherwise, unless you're a lawyer for the JO, who cares?
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FireCat
United States
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White Wash wrote: Jprobably time better spent than slapping each other around! (So spaketh the proverbial pot.) Ok, I'm done with that now. Back to Maura. Elsewhere et al., I know that some of Maura's other belongings have been gone through and things declared missing from her closet (and I also remember a jacket that Kathleen thought she was wearing was later found to be among her things after all) Is there anyone who might be able to do this among her undergarments? I realize that's not necessarily as easy to do, since they're of a more intimate nature.....but for instance if someone regularly did laundry with or for her.....also difficult since they are often delicate by nature and have to get tossed and replaced more regularly than other items of clothing. Gosh, this is awkward to have to discuss. Forgive me. I'm trying to handle it delicately, folks.
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Jerry Fletcher
Austin, TX
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Serious allegations, White Wash. I did see the pictures on the Hanson Express, but won’t be sending a check to the Journal Opinion so that I can view whatever may have appeared on there, so I guess your contention can’t be proven. Interesting, though, I didn’t see any yellow tape in any of the Hanson Express pictures. Was sure I had read that people were upset because the properties were taped off the day of the search. What is also interesting is that there appears to be snow on the ground in all but the picture of the general store and the A-frame which I don’t think anybody even knew about until after the search. Was there snow when they searched? Maybe your screen name is appropriate after all.
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Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Comments: 472
Tumba, Sweden
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Hello all, Having been away for a few days, I was amazed to see copyright (!) discussions going on here. I fail to see how such things could be of any great importance compared to Maura´s disappearance. IMHO.
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Shack
Carlisle, MA
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Looking4...My word!..I was just giving you the business...kidding you...pulling your leg..when I spoke of racy comments...I wrote "Piffle".. should have written lol...? Never dawned on me that you would think I was telling you how to or what to write....(I would never!...) RE: 112..listen to Anne..all I saw on TV weather news was "road wash-out/mud/debris...East of Bradley Hill"...and detours. Now to read other Posts...
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sophie bean
Bangor, ME
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It's interesting that I questioned Jerry when he first came here - I'm VERY sorry, Jerry! Now Jerry, a brand-new poster with an apparently open mind, dares to question ANYTHING about the area and its LE, and has incurred WW's wrath. As FireCat says, scroll on by. EVERY time we start a serious and possibily productive discussion - including asking how LE would obtain a search warrant - this stuff happens. It is VERY telling indeed. Fascinating how Shack's mention of the news of 112 being closed rates "nuts" "incendiary" and "clueless."
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Joined: Jul 8, 2008
Comments: 206
Middletown, VA
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I know sophie, its still on the news today...goodness WHY judge that?!? It goes to show you how useless the judging is, no basis to it, because it is carrying less and less credibility. SOB! scroll on by! LOL Now, if Bob would come open the bar, we'd be all set. It will give those who want to be malicious something to gossip about.
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Joined: Jun 7, 2008
Comments: 137
Arizona
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whiston wrote: hi all, please watch this link from the montel williams show. Who is the 4th woman? http://tinyurl.com/9eqkp I am pretty sure that the 4th woman -- the one with blonde hair -- is Maura's friend Liz Drewniak who attended high school with her. Won't say I'm positive, but am pretty sure. .
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Joined: Jun 7, 2008
Comments: 137
Arizona
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whiston wrote: ...was it Kurt who wrote the poem. IIRC, it was Kurt who wrote the poem, not Freddy.
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FireCat
United States
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Advocator wrote: <quoted text>
IIRC, it was Kurt who wrote the poem, not Freddy. Thx, Advocator. I'd thought so, too, but didn't want to say it without confirmation.
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Joined: Jun 10, 2008
Comments: 299
Woonsocket, RI
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Shack wrote: Looking4...My word!..I was just giving you the
business...kidding you...pulling your leg..when
I spoke of racy comments...I wrote "Piffle"..
should have written lol...? Never dawned on me that you would think I was telling you how to or what to write....(I would never!...)
RE: 112..listen to Anne..all I saw on TV weather
news was "road wash-out/mud/debris...East of
Bradley Hill"...and detours.
Now to read other Posts... OMG---no no, I didn't mean you. I was making fun of whoever rated my post---not you by any chance!!!!!
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Joined: Jun 10, 2008
Comments: 299
Woonsocket, RI
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1Anne wrote: Moose, The news stated 5 miles in Bath on 112 to Bradley Hill closed due to mudslide, no timeline to open it. More rain coming! Ugg!
Whiston, Thanks to your wife. Thanks Anne, its 116 to French Pond Rd for me tomorrow night I guess!!
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