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Emily

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"Wow, you own this house?"

"Yeah, me and the bank."

Of course, banks (and mortgage companies) aren't for everyone. Sometimes a special friend becomes the bank.

Nutmeg, anyone?
gvmeabrk

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Emily wrote:
Maybe Mr. Valassis knows where it came from.
Gee, you are good. I just wish I had the smarts to CONNECT all your dots!
White Wash

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#5461
Oct 2, 2008
 
A good PI would have checked that kind of
informance out while in FL wouldn't they?
Atwoods lived with his Mother and both worked
and both transferred to First Student in FL
so probably would be very easy to obtain
a house and boat with two incomes!Again that would detail someone doing some investigating.
So much more interesting for a pay off for killing some poor innocent girl "in the middle of
no where" right?
Fact certainly not required!
Emily wrote:
"Wow, you own this house?"
"Yeah, me and the bank."
Of course, banks (and mortgage companies) aren't for everyone. Sometimes a special friend becomes the bank.
Nutmeg, anyone?
Emily

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#5462
Oct 2, 2008
 
If the dorm room was a closet, and if the bedroom wasn't too far away, then maybe police figured that out. And figuring maybe she often walked between the bedroom and closet, perhaps they canvassed the homes and businesses along that route. And maybe they got some surprise assistance. Which is good because LE sure can use all the help they can get.
Emily

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#5463
Oct 2, 2008
 
Not that house, this house.
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#5464
Oct 2, 2008
 
http://www.laidlawcharters.com/first-student-...
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Oct 2, 2008
 
http://www.superpages.com/bp/San-Francisco-CA...
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She received an upsetting phone call after midnight. She declined an escort. She said she had a roommate. Her dorm room looked more like a closet than a bedroom. Not slept in. If late at night, upset, in winter, walking not driving, then maybe sleeping quarters not far off. Maybe a residential rental occupied by more than one person. Phone call came from one place, but with phone access by more than one person. Not a stretch to think that maybe the phone call came from a residence not far from the dorm, and which was her destination right after recieving the phone call. Phone call, sleeping quarters, and probably car all at same place. But no on-street parking in February. So maybe residence requires room for several cars in yard, driveway, lot. If true, then maybe something happened between dorm and bedroom Monday. Worth considering, among other possibilities.
White Wash

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#5467
Oct 2, 2008
 
Do you know how big Mr. Atwood is?
They had to put in a special seat for him to
drive.
Faith Westman has stated he didn't get off the bus and who was then that Faith saw after Mr. Atwood left?
Ben Franklin wrote:
One question I have - how elevated was the bus relative to the Saturn Roof?
But I think the speculation could be narrowed down with some electron microscopy done on the roof. Microscopic fragments would likely exist. I recommend but do not know the cost.
As to Mr. Atwood pulling back to a place out of view....thinking out loud.
If a life ending crime happened it would likely result in blood loss. Weather it were noticeable or not by the girlfriend - I don't know. If she were knocked out and subdued somehow to prevent Maura from escaping. Almost seems to require collusion here. Not reporting a blood stained shit, guarding Maura while the police were there or a dirty cop in collusion. Otherwise he would have to be able to subdue her for quite some time without anyone noticing and then commit the unspeakable when alone.
I don't know anything about his work hours and hers to think if it is possible.
I see no reason for SBD to go out of sight of the person you offered to help. Even further if that contradicts his habit.
How could there not be probable cause to search the house?
It wasn't because it would get him closer to the door to inform his girlfriend to call. No he went to an outbuilding. He had more important things to do then call...at least in his mind.
If we disbelieve Mr. Atwood - then its very likely Maura did not turn down help. This leaves either that she actually agreed to go with Mr. Atwood or if not - I have no doubt that Maura would scream if not knocked out after danger was apparent. The neighbors would have heard Maura screaming and we would know about it.
Or both perhaps. This was a surprise.
Whiston - here is your half hour.
Maura agrees to go to house - locks her car doors. Takes a few things with her to go to Telephone just long enough for the wait. Its rude to read in the company of a good Samaritan. Leave the book.
He knocks Maura out. He leaves the Chloroform rag in the Saturn's tailpipe. Puts it in the Saturn's tailpipe before he moves the bus and Maura. I don't know if it was one or two movements. He's not in a rush until the police are called, but no reason not to use the bus.
Why leave the rag there - possibly because he didn't want the girlfriend to know or that the chemical won't dissipate easily.
Quija

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Quija - I won't speak for Weeper - but my guess is that some type of new information has factored into his change of mind.
I think that is par for the course.
I also think we did a good job as a group looking at the possibility he raised.
Anyway - Weeper may have something himself to say - or maybe he cannot.
Caveman, thanks. I hadn't thought he might've gotten some new information this late in the case. And maybe he is trying very hard to balance what he can say and what he shouldn't. Actually, I haven't integrated the last few days' postings yet. I was very irritated with it all and now I'm just confused. But I guess new info was what I was hoping for... so...
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#5469
Oct 2, 2008
 
No reason for detectives to offer (true or false) information so publicly unless hoping to get something back. Cops, public or private, have better things to do than supply the public with details of an investigation. It's simply a return on investment. By dribbling out details, probably in a certain sequence, they are hoping to get some helpful results. Since all the details relate to the crash location, they must have figured Amherst is a dry well.
FireCat

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#5470
Oct 2, 2008
 
re: the upsetting phone call--I'm under the impression it came from on-campus. Am I mistaken?
whiston

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hi all if mr Atwood did harm Maura why ask his 'wife' to call 911.did he already know they were on the way from listening to his bus radio and that is why he sat in the bus.that driveway light that was put in by the state would surely light up the road and any passing vehicles.if i were looking for the saturn driver i personally would have gone up and down rt 112 and definately back to the store.frenchpond rd i dont' know.take care philip
Cave Dude

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Thank you to Give Me a Break for the description.

What is interesting is that you were close enough to her to not mistake her face.

Now - either Weeper and his friends have discussed this with you or they have not.

Both of you however are the only ones that can be certain this took place.

So lets sort this out, shall we?

Weeper said in #3881 that:

"All Maura look-alike “sightings” reported to us have been checked (yes, even the Church sighting) with negative results."

I would imagine that he would have had to talk to you to accomplish the above.

Have you talked to him or other team members?

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Have been catching up -- quite a bit of interesting stuff recently, that prompts new thoughts/questions.

Re the bus and bus driver. Was there someone else ON THE BUS with the SBD when SBD stopped at the Saturn and -- ostensibly -- spoke with Maura? I have been assuming that the SBD was alone on the bus, but maybe he wasn't. Maybe a friend was riding with him (just keeping company). Maybe there was still one student yet on the bus (did any students live near that area?)

The bus as I recall, is what is called a "diesel pusher" meaning the engine is in the rear. I don't have a pic of the bus handy, but besides the main door at front of the bus there should be an emergency exit door on the side of the bus about midway between front and back. On most buses, this door is also on the driver side. Additionally, there is usually an emergency exit at the rear of the bus -- a window that opens out above the back seat. Reason I mention these exits is because with the SBD "backing the bus" into a different position, it sounds as though both those emergency exits would be well hidden from view of the road.

What is up behind the Marrotte's house besides their backyard? If someone headed that way, where might the person have been going?

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gvmeabrk

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Oct 2, 2008
 
Cave Dude wrote:
Thank you to Give Me a Break for the description.
What is interesting is that you were close enough to her to not mistake her face.
Now - either Weeper and his friends have discussed this with you or they have not.
Both of you however are the only ones that can be certain this took place.
So lets sort this out, shall we?
Weeper said in #3881 that:
"All Maura look-alike “sightings” reported to us have been checked (yes, even the Church sighting) with negative results."
I would imagine that he would have had to talk to you to accomplish the above.
Have you talked to him or other team members?
I spoke with one Investigator John Smith. This was after I gave the info to Helena at MMM site.

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Södertälje, Sweden

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Oct 2, 2008
 
Advocator wrote:
Have been catching up -- quite a bit of interesting stuff recently, that prompts new thoughts/questions.
Re the bus and bus driver. Was there someone else ON THE BUS with the SBD when SBD stopped at the Saturn and -- ostensibly -- spoke with Maura? I have been assuming that the SBD was alone on the bus, but maybe he wasn't. Maybe a friend was riding with him (just keeping company). Maybe there was still one student yet on the bus (did any students live near that area?)
The bus as I recall, is what is called a "diesel pusher" meaning the engine is in the rear. I don't have a pic of the bus handy, but besides the main door at front of the bus there should be an emergency exit door on the side of the bus about midway between front and back. On most buses, this door is also on the driver side. Additionally, there is usually an emergency exit at the rear of the bus -- a window that opens out above the back seat. Reason I mention these exits is because with the SBD "backing the bus" into a different position, it sounds as though both those emergency exits would be well hidden from view of the road.
What is up behind the Marrotte's house besides their backyard? If someone headed that way, where might the person have been going?
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Hello Advocator,

Good to see you here again.

As for your question there, I looked up Google Maps.
It seems that there are just forest lands immediately behind the M-tte house, but it would seem quite possible to reach Bradley Hill Road from that side, as it´s just a short distance away.

The question would seem to be:
If someone actually ran up behind the M-tte house, into the woods and then presumably up to Bradley Hill Road OR retraced his/her steps back to Rte 112....
Then why didn´t the tracker dogs apparently catch any scents in that direction?
Also: If Mr M-tte noticed footsteps in the snow behind/by his house, surely he must have seen whether these footsteps continued further into the woods behind his house or whether they "returned" towards Rte 112?

This is all very confusing, as always, with more questions than answers...

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Södertälje, Sweden

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#5476
Oct 2, 2008
 
Hello all,

Sorry for the double posting there. Don´t know how that happened.
Topix is behaving strangely at times...

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Middletown, VA

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#5477
Oct 2, 2008
 
White Wash wrote:
Speaking of John Healy for those who printed the
entire DISPATCH LOG read it all to see who
just happen to be on patrol that night!
1Anne I am 100% that John Healy could and should
clear up all calls he heard that night while on
duty!
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Hi white wash, thanks for clearing this post up!
gvmeabrk

Weare, NH

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#5478
Oct 2, 2008
 
1Anne
You stated in an above post that you also had a personal siting of Maura. Has that ever been discussed here or on MMM?
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