WTF
Bristol, CT
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citigirl wrote: actually it was SBD who said this himself. No, as I remember someone reported that is what he said. citigirl wrote: Mr M has already stated to me and others that he was home.? That isn't what I remember the earlier timeline and his information about when he punched out from work saying. I remember that he was supposed to have seen the walking person around 7:30 so he was a fair distance away from the accident site. I also thought that was information gotten from his timecard. Bill
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WTF
Bristol, CT
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citigirl wrote: WTF it was CW who claimed he was not at home. Is it possible that you mean him and not TM? OOPS, you are correct. I was talking about CW. Got my initials mixed up. Sorry. Bill
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WTF
Bristol, CT
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As far as the statement attributed to SBD I seem to remember that someone said the SBD said he wasn't sure if it was Maura because the bottom of her face was covered. The speculation then proceeded about how the airbag was maybe covering her face. I don't know that he said anything about the airbag. I only remember hearing that he stated that the bottom of her face was covered.
At least thats what I remember. Bill
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Grammar check
Exeter, NH
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whiston
Wallingford, CT
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hi all i posted, it was here now it is gone .take care philip
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Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Comments: 472
Södertälje, Sweden
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Half Moon wrote: As promised. http://www.solidrockofbarton.net/FMO.dsp I may be reaching, but does anyone know if this is the church of the Maura sighting?? Shack, I agree, I am computer ignorant, too! That is why being anything but honest here, was SO far fetched to me. I am like your family, I assumed everyone was nice and just noted that I lived in NH, etc.. to be friendly! That was a MISTAKE, and I have I EVER learned a lesson here! Hello Half Moon, Yes, this is indeed the church where Maura may well have been seen in the summer of 2005. And, yes despite this sighting having been officially declared null and void, I would still regard it as highly interesting indeed. If someone would ask me: Do you think this girl was actually Maura? My answer would be: Very likely, yes. After all, northern Vermont is as wild and sparsely populated as the north of Sweden. And Barton is just a short hop south of the Canadian border, as well. If Maura is in hiding for whatever reason or possibly suffering from some kind of amnesia or other similar trauma, she could be literally anywhere in that huge, nearly unpopulated area.
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Half Moon
Reading, MA
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Euro, Very interesting..........I know you are one of a few that believe she is still with us. Like I said before, I like to look at the sightings, they seem to hold so much more promise of clues. The reason I posted the particular page I did, was due to the content of this men's meeting that they conduct. How many men with the same "issues" could attend this church??? Assembly of God church I picture to be fairly big. Does anyone know the size? In regards to attendance?
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Joined: Jul 8, 2008
Comments: 206
Middletown, VA
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WTF wrote: WOW. Is there a lot of interesting stuff here! <quoted text> Like someone having an accident??? Maybe sliding off of the road into the trees??? I don’t know if Maura didn’t have an earlier accident that caused the damage to the hood and deployed her airbags but clearly it sounds like she had an accident at the accident scene by SBD and CW’s house.WTF, I find it sad that you would add sadistic humor to what may be important information. <quoted text> So SBD possibly couldn’t see the lower part of Maura’s face because of the roof of the car blocking it. Not an airbag. Whoever said it was an airbag anyway? <quoted text> Another point that SBD said he told Maura to do that seems to be borne out. <quoted text> Clearly she states the driver no one else did this. <quoted text> So did SBD as I remember. <quoted text> A whole lot of hasty searching being done it sounds like. Well lets ignore that and keep saying no one did anything. <quoted text> Come on lets not exaggerate. They poked around for a minute or two then all went home to have a few brews and watch family feud. It was cold and dark out and no one in that area cares about a young defenseless girl. Especially when family feud is coming on or NASCAR. <quoted text> If I remember the timeline correctly “evil” TM was still heading home for at least another half an hour. <quoted text> Son of a gun. Same thing the police report says. <quoted text> Actually it does. When someone loosing control coming around the corner corrects and then overcorrects. <quoted text> Those uncaring, incompetent boobs. More time spent out in the cold doing nothing useful. Excellant job White Wash. Bill It is sad and sadistic to add this uncalled for sarcasm to an important post. It certainly depletes the impact.
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whiston
Wallingford, CT
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hi all.Maura called the Salamones in M.A. They owned a condo in NH.they dont remember the call from Mauras phone .It was only assumed on MMM that it was a call about a place to stay.mr Westman is the go to guy when it comes to accident at the weathered barn bend.the saturn was not found at the bend.the saturn was past the bend 15 minutes before they saw it .did they see sgtSmith arrive or was he there when they looked out.i still am hung up on sgtSmith being at the saturn before the Westmans called 911as for the cigarete smoker ,was that a light on a cell phone.was the trunk action to make rom or was someone looking for a jack etc.mrAtwood dropped the kids at a mystery school as far as iknow he did not drop his passengers at home.if he dropped the kids at school could he hsve arrived at the saturn before 7 .12 pm when sgt Smiths' vehicle was seen there or did sgtSmith show up twice.take care philip
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Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Comments: 472
Södertälje, Sweden
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Half Moon wrote: Euro, Very interesting..........I know you are one of a few that believe she is still with us. Like I said before, I like to look at the sightings, they seem to hold so much more promise of clues. The reason I posted the particular page I did, was due to the content of this men's meeting that they conduct. How many men with the same "issues" could attend this church??? Assembly of God church I picture to be fairly big. Does anyone know the size? In regards to attendance? Half Moon, Thanks for your quick response. Yes, I believe that I´m part of the small minority here that at least have a flickering hope that Maura may actually be with us. I totally agree with you concerning the two most likely possible sightings of Maura in Barton, VT, on Father´s Day 2005 and in the NH convenience store by our friend gvmeabrk. Whatever LE and the PI Team may - with all due respect - be saying, I feel - rather passionately, actually - that these two possible sightings cannot be at all disqualified. The witness in the Barton church particularly remarked on the young girl´s "runners legs" and that she seemed somewhat shy and sad. What I also consider highly indicative is that the young lady, "Raykel", suddenly "fled" the church when the minister started mentioning the subject of fathers in his sermon. I find this highly poignant indeed. Regarding the Solid Rock Church, they seem to have quite a number of churches across the USA, so must be numbering a fairly substantial amount of worshippers, I would imagine. Hope to hear more from you regarding all this. Thanks! Euro
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Shack
Dedham, MA
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Bits and Pieces cuz I am too tired to go back to who said what, when... Incomplete sentences Incomplete thoughts.... Don (nickname) Nason is President of New Hampshire League of Investigators http://www.nhli.net/index.asp Interesting site...wish I could be a fly on the wall during seminars/meetings. Had a pleasant conversation with him during the Oct.'06 search. Healy is Director...Weeper, of course is a member of NHLI Atwood's...residence,..from memory..owned by his mother...Sold and the 3 moved to FL...he and his girl friend/ex wife and his mother. And, vaguely..the PI's found him in FL? and did indeed have conversation/questioning...? Also, vague..no cell service (then, don't know about now) at incident site that night.....and, yes ..recall something about a couple driving back from some poetry reading? and being asked by Maura...? to call....? I believe that Mrs. ex-Atwood was home before Mr. got home. If the crusty hard snowbank was over 17" high, the bumper would have stopped the car (unless she was going over 80mph and flew over) Unlikely headlight damage, lamps askew, was far from incident site... for 2 reasons..visability (sp?)in the dark and LE "mv violation".
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Lady Gray
Austin, TX
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WTF wrote: As far as the statement attributed to SBD I seem to remember that someone said the SBD said he wasn't sure if it was Maura because the bottom of her face was covered. The speculation then proceeded about how the airbag was maybe covering her face. I don't know that he said anything about the airbag. I only remember hearing that he stated that the bottom of her face was covered. At least thats what I remember. Bill He did say that when he pulled up, the airbag was covering the bottom of her face; however, at that point, the female struggled to get out the driver's side due to the closeness in proximity of the driver's door up against the snowbank. They then spoke to each other over the roof of the car. When SBD was shown a photo of Maura, his statement was (and this is a quote): " Attwood described Maura, "She didn't look like the pictures, her hair was down, it must have come undone during the accident." SBD's statement about the airbag covering the bottom portion of her face doesn't make sense to me because when an airbag goes off, it immediately deflates so either the airbag had inflated as SBD was pulling up or it had already been deployed and the female held up the deflated bag over her face as he pulled up. WTF, isn't the timing correct when it comes to the inflating/deflating of the airbag?
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paris
Minneapolis, MN
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Grammar Check, who were you asking in this post 2 pages back? Êtes-vous et est-ce qu'il est semblable ou ce pourquoi le doppleganger est significatif ? Si oui, pourquoi tenez cette croyance ? TRANSLATION: Are you and is it similar or this why the doppleganger is significant? If yes, why do hold this belief?
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Joined: Oct 7, 2008
Comments: 39
Reading, MA
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Euro, thanks again, and others..........my name had to change a little, due to another half moon that I was unaware of, apparently. Either that, or it is me and I screwed something up. If I show up as two people, it is not a scheme. I am either halfmoon or halfmoon13, and will show up in either Reading, MA or Exeter, NH, even though I am not in either place. Anyway, has anyone in this forum talked to Mr. Stone, or the pastor of the Barton Church? Whiston, you mentioned the trunk again. Is my theory of the trunk light illuminating quite a bit of the area, crazy? Or has it been gone over a few times? I am also wondering, is there a way to contact members here other than posting to the forum, so I could say to people like Elsewhere, "I ordered that book", without getting the "off topic" lemon?
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paris
Minneapolis, MN
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Thank you White wash for all the good information.
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Half Moon
Reading, MA
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Yup, I can be two people..........but I wont keep it a secret..........AND I didnt do it on purpose!
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Lady Gray
Austin, TX
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Shack wrote: [text deleted] Don (nickname) Nason is President of New Hampshire League of Investigators http://www.nhli.net/index.asp [text deleted] Sooooo, I looked back at the dispatch report and, yes, Don Nason was on duty that night, during that time frame. Isn't it the New Hampshire League of Investigators who offered pro bono (free) services to the family? Wonder if Nason disclosed to the family that he was on duty that night? Citigirl, do you know? Interesting info, WW.
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halfmoon13
Reading, MA
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Okay, I thought I had a new name and I just wrote a long post..........did anyone see it?
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halfmoon13
Reading, MA
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There it is, sorry....I am still learning, bear with me!!!(aka Half Moon)
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Ben Franklin
San Mateo, CA
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Further thoughts -> quoting myself -
"If it was Maura, I believe that she was followed and picked up to go to her planned destination.
If it were drug addicted theives and murderers attempting to get out of Amhurst - they would just leave on foot, go to a bus station."
"The cigarette smoking implies someone was waiting for someone else. The person eventually left, but was content to sit and wait for something."
If drug addicted criminals -> I would think both people would vacate the vehicle simultaneously. No reason to wait, instead they have reason to leave as soon as possible - both of them.
"Cell phone implies call someone to get you - things didn't go as planned."
If drug addicted criminals -> I would think they would have no one to call.
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