Where is MAURA MURRAY

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Hey Ben,
Sophie Bean gets knocked around enough by Bill and others on a regular basis and I've refrained from saying anything because Sophie is known as 'Trinity' in other circles so I know she can hold her own...lol.
However, you are mistaken about her doing nothing.
Sophie has been an active member on MMM since its inception and has contributed quite a bit. Sophie has handed out flyers and still continues to post flyers while she is out hiking. She has also made trips to the Swiftwater area letting us know about what she may have seen or experienced.
Sophie has been praised by the MMM moderators for remaining on topic (always focusing on Maura and not talking about herself) while others, very including myself here, have strayed or gone off on irrelevant tangents.
Please don't knock Sophie Bean, she's a good egg all around.

OK - Well taken.

I'm both sorry and want to say I appreciate Sophie's work on being there helping with the search.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

That reminds me, wasn't there an accident reported on Route 10 that same night?
I'm looking at the map included on Maura's flyer and it shows Route 10 North of the Saturn's final resting place.

Hello again elsewhere,

Yes, I also seem to recall that such an accident was mentioned on this board some time ago. Can´t remember on what stretch of Route 10 though.

Looking at the Google Maps I see that Route 10 goes all the way from I-93 at Littleton in the east, past Woodsville and then continues south on the eastern, NH side of the Connecticut river valley.

Anybody here with more information regarding this supposed Rte 10 accident on 9th February 2004?

paris wrote:

<quoted text>Yes but within an hour or so this one was hauled away and so on..........
How do you explain the conversation with family?
I'm not thinking you should answer that, especially to me but think about it please.

Ummm...I'm still intrigued by the woman in Littleton, MA with the dry river beds comment on her marketing brochure and the comments of the psychic that Maura could be found in a dry river bed in Littleton, MA. I don't typically do the psychic thing....but this has me thinking.

Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text>Ummm...I'm still intrigued by the woman in Littleton, MA with the dry river beds comment on her marketing brochure and the comments of the psychic that Maura could be found in a dry river bed in Littleton, MA. I don't typically do the psychic thing....but this has me thinking.

It would be interesting, wouldn't it, if the psychic were to actually go to the area, wonder what he/she might come up with?

Zander....your post about "Teacher".... would you mind elaborating on why this was important enough for you to post?

Reminds me of Welcome Back Kotter on the old forum.

yankee wrote:

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It would be interesting, wouldn't it, if the psychic were to actually go to the area, wonder what he/she might come up with?

Dr. Kim Rossmo - Geographic Profiling
NCIS Conference 1998

"And that concludes the presentation except for one quick story I’d like to tell you. A couple of summers ago, a young girl by the name of Mindy Tran was abducted and murdered in the town of Kelowna in the interior of British Columbia, and before her body was found she was a missing person and there was a lot of concern, a lot of media attention, posters up everywhere, this type of thing. The RCMP detachment, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Klona were responsible for the case. A psychic lady came in to them, she said “I can help you find Mindy Tran’s body”. Also a hair-finder guy came in to them and he said “I can help you find Mindy Tran’s body”. Do you know what a hair-finder is? No? Okay, you have a little plastic film canister and you take the hair of the person you’re looking for and you put it in that plastic film canister, you attach that to a stick, and it takes you to the person you’re looking for.

So the RCMP figured they would get rid of two nuts at once, took some hair from Mindy Tran’s hairbrush which they gave to the hair-finder guy, and they put him together with the psychic lady and they said “go do your thing”. So the psychic lady stood on top of a hill in Kelowna, and she did her thing, and she said “I believe Mindy Tran’s body is in that park”. They walked down the hill to the park, and the hair-finder guy did his thing, and he wandered around the park for several hours, with his hair-finder, and he found Mindy Tran’s body. It’s a true story, I can’t explain it, I only tell you that because those people could put us out of business."

Been trying to follow everyone's thoughts...not doing too well with my own.
So just prattle...yesterday' Union Leader had different info.than what was online about the latest murder in Haverhill. Surveillance camera was helpful in investigation. I know it
off topic...just wishful thinking..about Maura's situation.

It has been written here many times about questions not answered. Helena told me once (not a quote) that she would kind of screen questions before presenting them to Fred..(He didn't read Forum) I think of the Hanson article...Fred's words.."doesn't matter"...despair...

RE: discussion about Maura..personality etc ..perhaps maybe...just maybe ...she was always viewed as pretty, smart...perfect...and she had to live up to it.....maybe it just got to
her...having to always live up to it....constantly...?
Just a thought....barely.....

Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text>Ummm...I'm still intrigued by the woman in Littleton, MA with the dry river beds comment on her marketing brochure and the comments of the psychic that Maura could be found in a dry river bed in Littleton, MA. I don't typically do the psychic thing....but this has me thinking.

Healing Connections
C/O Karendyth Holistic Center
254 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886

http://www.mollysalans.com/

I forgot..Elsewhere...great article...

RE:accident on Route 10...I didn't find anything
..perhaps it wasn't in Grafton County....?

According to mapquest, Westford MA and Littleton MA are only 9 minutes, 6.27 miles apart.

Okay, so you're looking for someone who is dead or alive, near or far, someone nobody knows, no one has ever met, and so little is known about her it's like she never existed until she disappeared into thin air.

To accomplish this you use or recommend psychics and remote viewers, trip over yourselves for years explaining you're not really ripping the local population up one side and down the other just because they live near a place where an unknown person abandoned a car from the South Shore, and no one knows how it even got there in the first place. Or even when.

And you recommened a former disgraced Globe columnist fired because he repeatedly lied in his newspaper column, completely made up whole stories, and who stuck up for one of the most infamous serial killers and child rapists of all time - Jimmy Bulger.

You're all sunny and sweet on a columnist who extolled the virtues of a punk who bribed entire families with rent money and furniture so they would turn a blind eye on what Bulger was doing to their under age daughters, and in some cases to their sons. Recommending Taliban Barnicle is giving a free pass to child rape.

I don't like Mike, but I sure have met Mike and he is not from Southie and he never spent two minutes in the Colony. He grew up in Fitchburg and lived, and maybe still lives, in poor, poor Lincoln, the town with more museum than retail space. Mike never gave two shits about the working poor. And that doesn't even say a word about the role his brother, a Boston cop, played in Billy's world.

Louise Day Hicks would be proud of you.

Odds are better that Jimmy Hoffa will turn up first.

"The internal affairs units of the Cambridge and Somerville police departments have concluded that a Somerville police officer accused of assaulting a suspected car thief in May [1988] did not act improperly during the arrest.

"Somerville Police Capt. Robert Bradley yesterday said the two investigations have "found no reason to take departmental action" against Detective Sgt. Thomas Shamshak."

Nope, no reason to shoot the messenger.

I wouldn't let a guy like him volunteer to flush my toilet, much less provide reliable information about geologists who play our thing in Vermont.

And after John Connelly, no Boston feeb's gonna be a real plus.

Hey, you like my nice red jacket?

If I was Lane Construction down there in Cheshire Connecticut I'd like to have a cozy relationship with a Massachusetts engineering firm like Gale Associates. Help me extend those runways, like the one at Turners Falls Airport.

Gosh, I never realized all those people in those subsidized apartments in Turners owned private jets and all this time they wanted to use the local airport so they could fly to Ledyand and help the local economy around Foxwoods. Good thing we got Gale Associates on the job. They're the best. Plus we got a good Lane Construction plant and pit just up the street on 142 in Northfield, practically a straight shot down to Turners. Not to mention the one off Damon Road in Northampton. Lane Constuction has a variety of plants on the east coast. One is in Florida, I believe. They lay down a lot of asphalt and tarmac. Competitors of Tomasso. Sometimes.

Plus we got Pilgrim Air, don't we?

Funny thing the treasurer of Park Street Church was Harold Flight about the time Harold Ockenga baptized me. About the time PSC owned the house (the Manse) on Doane Road I do believe.

And if I further recall correctly, Harold and Starr Ockenga were good friends of Laurence and (more so) Mary Rockefeller about that time. Gordon Conwell and all that stuff.

a semblance that very dogs disdained.

In short, I would strongly recommend the U.S. Attorney's office further tailor its investigation into Connecticut's general constuction business so that it concentrates on actual points of real leverage.


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"The next stop was at the intersection of Route 112 and 116 with a briefing on a 7 million dollar 7 mile completed upgrade of this section and how well it has held up this year.

"Our next stop was along the Wild Ammonoosuc River where about 10 years ago a lift ( 20inches of gravel over-layed on frost heaves) has held up very well over the years without frost heaves or potholes. This treatment costs about $300,000 per mile.

"The next stop was along the Wild Ammonoosuc River where severe frost heaves have created a safety factor.

"We stopped next at the Route 112 and 302 Intersection where NH DOT has installed guardrails to prevent any vehicles from rolling down a steep embankment into a campground."

Above from: http://www.nh.gov/council/district1/reports/2...

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Does the quality of road surface, even on state highways, change from one town line to another sometimes?

Sorry if any offense is taken by psychics promoting dry riverbeds.

Mcsmom..nice to hear your voice...guess you have paid the rent?..(your mailbox was full)
Just writing my thoughts/feelings...we usually just ignore the SOBs (the Scroll on Bys) They think they are entertaining, amusing
and "pretending" to be pseudo intellects. Yes, I know exactly what I just wrote. Poor creatures do not have any place to go.

If anyone or everyone who came here to Post would just look at their child, or look at that person with whom you share space and life,look at anyone that you love. Shut your eyes, and
pretend s/he is gone....Gone...!! Please stop the "SOBs"..go somewhere else to vent.

Yes, we are a bunch...I mean a group, of people who are upset about a missing person that we have never met. We are group of people who think this situation could have been handled better.
We are a group who want better...faster.

I am begging, for the first and, believe me, the last time...please stop the nonsense. It appears that Chris King is trying .Yes, Sophie, in his own way, to make some changes in NH LE. Whether it works or not, something needs fixing, in MY area of NH. If not him, WHO??.

PS At least the last yardi yardi post incorporated a few words of blah blah about Maura Missing...the words of Rte. 112 etc.
Go jump in the lake...just not mine....

Wasn't gonna, but popping back in cause I noticed the really nasty person wasnt here lately.

But dont spend another minute thinking about the sightings, oh that's right, you havent. Sorry, that was not nice and I know I will get judged by a jury of my peers.( I just couldnt get over how blatantly obvious the whole Barton church thing was, and it was just getting stepped over, I feel cause it was too obvious and wasnt scientific enough like pinging and maps and GPS and initials and numerology, etc.... Just MY opinion.)

WOW,things have gotten rough here. Is there a way that someone can pull some of the SH!@#$ out of here? There is SO much wasted space!

Anyway, I didnt look at the psychic's site, but I vote for having her/him look around Littleton. I am with those in favor of giving it a shot or at least a thought. ALTHOUGH, I BET it has been done already and you all just dont know about it yet. It doesnt make their theory off, just because they (the psychic) said MA..........they are not saying she never left Mass, which is what I was jumping all over at first, they are saying that was her "resting place". Which even if everything you all are saying here is true, the NH trip, the phone,the accident, the witnesses, the sightings, it does NOT mean she didnt at some point end up in MASS!

Especially if the theory that she had someone with her at some point when she left, or after she left Mass., holds weight. She could have easily ended up back there. It has been FOUR years. Even if it was only yesterday, she could still have been seen in Ma, NH, VT and back in MA!! I mean think about it, it is NOT that long of a drive. I practically did it myself today. Not that route, but similar areas.

ALTHOUGH, gvmeabrk, I was in the Hillsborough (sp)Cumbies today. Wondered if anyone in there was you. Did you see me?(I am not being wise....it is just such a small area, and I definitely didnt know my way around, I am sure I stuck out like a sore thumb!)

hi firecat and all, .on the last forum Helena posted that mrMurray had deemed Amherst not important. i remember thinking how could he know that.also there is much more that we may have access to in Mauras prior life in amherst. i have much more information about Muaras prior life than i do about NH.if i waste my time thinking about Mauras prior life ,i can deal with it.In NH we have her fathers car and some conflicting time lines.we have no proof she ever got to Nh.mostly we have no help from people that were close to Maura.maybe they have there reasons.it is just weird .take care philip

yankee wrote:

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It would be interesting, wouldn't it, if the psychic were to actually go to the area, wonder what he/she might come up with?

Or at least place a telephone call to Salans to talk.

whiston wrote:

hi firecat and all,.on the last forum Helena posted that mrMurray had deemed Amherst not important. i remember thinking how could he know that.also there is much more that we may have access to in Mauras prior life in amherst. i have much more information about Muaras prior life than i do about NH.if i waste my time thinking about Mauras prior life ,i can deal with it.In NH we have her fathers car and some conflicting time lines.we have no proof she ever got to Nh.mostly we have no help from people that were close to Maura.maybe they have there reasons.it is just weird .take care philip

Hunh. Didn't recall it was he. Still don't, in fact, but if you say so....you still have access to the old site from your computer-intelligent wife's doings? That would be most helpful, for this and a number of other reasons.

I wonder if this is his own judgment or if he's been advised of this by investigators etc. Like him, I'm working backwards. If you think it's advisable to work forward, have at.

Adam Hart wrote:

Okay, so you're looking for someone who is dead or alive, near or far, someone nobody knows, no one has ever met, and so little is known about her it's like she never existed until she disappeared into thin air.
To accomplish this you use or recommend psychics and remote viewers, trip over yourselves for years explaining you're not really ripping the local population up one side and down the other just because they live near a place where an unknown person abandoned a car from the South Shore, and no one knows how it even got there in the first place. Or even when.
And you recommened a former disgraced Globe columnist fired because he repeatedly lied in his newspaper column, completely made up whole stories, and who stuck up for one of the most infamous serial killers and child rapists of all time - Jimmy Bulger.
You're all sunny and sweet on a columnist who extolled the virtues of a punk who bribed entire families with rent money and furniture so they would turn a blind eye on what Bulger was doing to their under age daughters, and in some cases to their sons. Recommending Taliban Barnicle is giving a free pass to child rape.
I don't like Mike, but I sure have met Mike and he is not from Southie and he never spent two minutes in the Colony. He grew up in Fitchburg and lived, and maybe still lives, in poor, poor Lincoln, the town with more museum than retail space. Mike never gave two shits about the working poor. And that doesn't even say a word about the role his brother, a Boston cop, played in Billy's world.
Louise Day Hicks would be proud of you.
Odds are better that Jimmy Hoffa will turn up first.

Wow.
Where did all of THAT come from?
Why the apparently random attack on a group merely looking for a vanished young woman?
Remind me, please, why you're here?