Where is MAURA MURRAY

Or maybe there really was a guy with a red Ford pickup who worked next to an Amherst gallery. Not hard to figure out, but who cares? These people don't want a conviction, they want a lynching. Facts of even the most ordinary kind don't matter to them. But advertise yourself as a psychic and they'll believe anything you tell them. They been trying to string someone up for 4 years now. Their second choice is the self-imposed kind of sentence.

Sybil wrote:

Or maybe there really was a guy with a red Ford pickup who worked next to an Amherst gallery. Not hard to figure out, but who cares? These people don't want a conviction, they want a lynching. Facts of even the most ordinary kind don't matter to them. But advertise yourself as a psychic and they'll believe anything you tell them. They been trying to string someone up for 4 years now. Their second choice is the self-imposed kind of sentence.

Instead of being a dickhead why don't you answer Lady Gray.

Lady Gray specificaly asked you about that particular post, did you not read it?

oops, specifically.

So, like, ah, this is all so confusing. So, like, where was, like, the caller, again? London calling? NY, NJ, or NM? What song was that?

Haysus Christi, I got it. Rome, Georgia; Athens, Texas; and Paris, Tennessee. So glad one of em's a country boy.

Lady Gray wrote:

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Is this fact or supposition?

Sybil wrote:
There's a guy who owns a red Ford pu always got firewood in it who worked next door to an Amherst art gallery who is acquainted if not friends with someone near where the car was found and who lived in a spot Verizon didn't reach too well.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Instead of being a dickhead why don't you answer Lady Gray.
Lady Gray specificaly asked you about that particular post, did you not read it?

Elsewhere, just proves exactly what I thought. Can you say TROLL? TROLL. TROLL. Knows know thing. Just likes to stir things up. Inflated ego.

Troll. Think about it. If this alter ego truly had answers would he be alluding to it on here? He ought to be going to authorities with the info. Just proves it. Troll. With nothing else to do in their life.

They got someone who doesn't seem like she existed until she either ceased to exist or became someone else. They got a gang of gumshoes who specialize in harassment instead of acquiring information. They got a gaggle of cyber bullies always on the attack, but not one of which has provided a single jot of solid information.

And they want to know whether a vaguely described vehicle - one which may or may not have been seen somewhere in NH one night - actually existed?

Well, if their genius gumshoes and psychics haven't figured it out already, what purpose is served by asking a crazy dickhead?

Just goes to prove... it's more important for them to call someone names than to responsibly seek and process potentially useful information.

They want to play in a public park, but one for whites only. To them, Topix is South Boston thirty plus years ago. You're not white? Then get out! That's what they believe.

God have mercy on the African American who made the fatal mistake of taking the wrong turn and landing in Southie and got clubbed to death for just being there. Or the dark skinned college student who made the mistake of walking on the wrong Amherst street a few years ago and got run over. Hey, dark skinned guys like him don't count, right?

Ladies and gentlemen, these people are blood thirsty pigs eager to use any excuse to pummel another human being.

So if you're looking for someone who's disappeared, make sure you ask dickheads for help. They'll bend over backwards.

Is that what they call all the people in Haverhill? Dickheads from Haverhill? The people of Haverhill would be lucky if that's ALL they're called as soon as their backs are turned.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Instead of being a dickhead why don't you answer Lady Gray.

Okay, from one Sybil to another, a special favor.

Let me see... you want to know about a poorly described pickup truck that might have been driven strangely near a car that was abandoned in New Hampshire and had no driver, but if it did have a driver it was someone with no past until she disappeared somewhere between a college where she had no friends, no room she slept in, no classes, no sports, and no job except one verified only by a supervisor who wasn't there when she received a disturbing phone call that came from a place where nobody can be identified having made the call at which point the missing student who doesn't exist claims she has a roommate to console her and four days later this student becomes someone who disappears without a trace at an unknown location between one place she didn't exist and another place 150 miles away, where she'd never been before.

No problem.

One of my first telephone conversations with Helena,(2005),I made mention that I was disappointed that there wasn't seemingly enough media coverage, other than local newspapers.
I told her that I was envious of other crime situations that seemingly got more TV coverage. I recall that there was a possibility of having
an airing on AMW, but, it was turned down/denied by LE...I don't know if it was turned down/denied by HPD/NHSP/MASP/Amherst.

Why would/could that be..? Anne has said many times "somebody knows'..Very simple words...
I forget who said that "criminals have friends/acquaintances"... Again, very simple words.

I watch PBS a lot...2 out of Boston, 1 out of Durham, NH,but, have never see any programming dedicated to local crime...I think that informative TV channels, sponsored by corporations
and/or Local Access Channels, would be helpful to families who are suffering with loss, due to crime. Especially the Missing.

I still believe in a guilty conscience..somebody knows the truth about Maura missing.

OK - so it looks like the site I found - is inaccurate. I found several others that mirror what you have up there Euro.

White Wash wrote:

"5. During the course of this investigation, Cellular Telephone records have been obtained by Law Enforcement that were used by MURRAY. A representative from Sprint Corporate Security advised this affiant that during the late afternoon hours of February 9, 2004 an outgoing telephone call was made to Murray from the Londonderry, NH Sprint tower. This call had to have been made from within a 22 mile radius of the tower. The identity of this caller and telephone number has not been made as of this date."

Was the officer wrong when he said a call was made by a yet to be identified caller to Maura's cell phone - from within 22 miles of Londonberry, NH?

From this - how can you conclude Maura was within 22 miles of Londonbury, NH?

Well maybe Weeper can put the two together and hopefully it will help with a piece of information for him - mcrsmom made a very important observation I think.

I just can't apply it because I don't know the cell phone dead areas in New Hampshire more specifcly then North of White River Junction.

LE may have the complete list of pings - but Weeper and team do not want data from Police. I don't know if he has it. So I want to get it to him.

If I'm wrong - and Weeper knows I'm wrong - no harm to Weeper.

A call was made for Maura - but it never got to Maura - either the phone was off - or Maura was out of range.

Maura's cell phone was working in the 2:00 hour when a 1 minute call was made with her fiance.

Arguably - were not going to call "late afternoon" anything after 6:00 PM.

We have a decent chance that the call didn't go through because the phone was out of range.

If Weeper can cross compare dead areas with possible routes that include the other roads Elsewhere sited - also taking into consideration the time that Weeper believes the car left Amherst - and miles per hour - he might have something.

Maybe he thought of it already.

But - If the car went up Non Interstates - the driving itself (if your math tells you it had to be at a speed that would cause a crash, if taken) this could be a cause of "prior damage"

Now I personally don't think ther was prior damage - but that's just an opinion I'd like a engineer or physics person to answer. None the less - I'm assumimg I'm wrong anyway.

I encourage other people to take a stab at Weeper's last post - try to give him reasonable possibilities - what your thought process is - how you came to your conclusion based on his last post - in your own way.

This is tough - do your best - but if you do make a mistake - don't worry about embarassing yourself - because I've made enough here that it won't matter.

Benjamin Franklyne wrote:

Well maybe Weeper can put the two together and hopefully it will help with a piece of information for him - mcrsmom made a very important observation I think.
I just can't apply it because I don't know the cell phone dead areas in New Hampshire more specifcly then North of White River Junction.
LE may have the complete list of pings - but Weeper and team do not want data from Police. I don't know if he has it. So I want to get it to him.
If I'm wrong - and Weeper knows I'm wrong - no harm to Weeper.
A call was made for Maura - but it never got to Maura - either the phone was off - or Maura was out of range.
Maura's cell phone was working in the 2:00 hour when a 1 minute call was made with her fiance.
Arguably - were not going to call "late afternoon" anything after 6:00 PM.
We have a decent chance that the call didn't go through because the phone was out of range.
If Weeper can cross compare dead areas with possible routes that include the other roads Elsewhere sited - also taking into consideration the time that Weeper believes the car left Amherst - and miles per hour - he might have something.
Maybe he thought of it already.
But - If the car went up Non Interstates - the driving itself (if your math tells you it had to be at a speed that would cause a crash, if taken) this could be a cause of "prior damage"
Now I personally don't think ther was prior damage - but that's just an opinion I'd like a engineer or physics person to answer. None the less - I'm assumimg I'm wrong anyway.
I encourage other people to take a stab at Weeper's last post - try to give him reasonable possibilities - what your thought process is - how you came to your conclusion based on his last post - in your own way.
This is tough - do your best - but if you do make a mistake - don't worry about embarassing yourself - because I've made enough here that it won't matter.

Hello all,

What if Maura possibly did not want to answer that particular call for some reason OR there was a prior agreement between her and the caller that she was not to answer it.
In the latter case, the call might have been used as a kind of signal.

Sybil wrote:
There's a guy who owns a red Ford pu always got firewood in it who worked next door to an Amherst art gallery who is acquainted if not friends with someone near where the car was found and who lived in a spot Verizon didn't reach too well.

Lady Gray wrote:
Is this fact or supposition?

elsewherebriefly wrote:
Instead of being a dickhead why don't you answer Lady Gray.

Harry wrote:
Okay, from one Sybil to another, a special favor.

Let me see... you want to know about a poorly described pickup truck that might have been driven strangely near a car that was abandoned in New Hampshire and had no driver, but if it did have a driver it was someone with no past until she disappeared somewhere between a college where she had no friends, no room she slept in, no classes, no sports, and no job except one verified only by a supervisor who wasn't there when she received a disturbing phone call that came from a place where nobody can be identified having made the call at which point the missing student who doesn't exist claims she has a roommate to console her and four days later this student becomes someone who disappears without a trace at an unknown location between one place she didn't exist and another place 150 miles away, where she'd never been before.

No problem.

MY RESPONSE TO ALL OF THIS:
Sybil and Harry, you are one in the same person! Do you realize this? In fact, you are many people on here. Your alter egos are answering each other.

Respectfully and sincerely, I suggest that you seek help or the men in white coats will be knocking at your door. Go to a family member and tell them. Show them this topix board. Or if there is any LE reading this, do a well check.

Could Sybil be Maura???? or her abductor???

Actually, Harry and I met at Starbucks. It was just like the movie... "When Harry Met Sally." I mean Sybil. When Harry Met Sybil.(Shut up Sally, you good for nothing ditz.) Don't pay any attention to her. When Harry and I first met, it was strictly platonic. But as we got to know each other, we realized how much we had in common. Soon we began dressing alike and taking showers together. And then we started dining out together but saved by ordering only one meal, which we would split. It was so romantic. We were in love. All the waiters knew our birthdays and surrounded the tables with candles and radiant friendship. After we started living together, we grew even closer and thrilled ourselves with little economies like taking advantage of all the two-for-one specials we could find. We always have such fun together. Just ask Harry. He feels exactly the same way I do.

Ben Franklin,

This is from Advocator's Chart:

Calls Maura made on the day of Monday Feb. 9 and known times of activities :

12:55 PM called condo in Bartlett (Seasons)
1:13 PM called another student
2:05 PM called Go Stowe
2:18 PM called Billy
3:40 PM made withdrawal at bank
4:37 PM checked messages on her cellphone

If Maura let the call from the Londonderry tower go unanswered IMHO it is consistent with her "not feeling much like talking to anybody" (approx. quote). She was calling people and leaving voice messages, and as an old poster/friend of mine suggested (brilliantly, I thought), she may have been making calls when she knew she didn't have to actually talk to the person, when they'd be unavailable -- just leave a message.

O stone crushers of the heart
It kills to be blasphemed so.

To be driven to despair
by someone often elsewhere

um, let me get that second cup of coffee, the one with the pseudo muse in it. Maybe someone can raise up that Ionesco guy to help with the script here. It's like cell phone coverage - too erratic and spotty.

Don't worry, Tammy Fray, I'll be right back. Doing very well, thank you.

Okay everybody, take five. And please stop talking to one another while the camera's rolling.