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just sayin

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but when the answers are NOT in the reports, shouldn't you look at everything else "factual" -- which would include those logs???
FireCat

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White Wash wrote:
Blah Blah instead up of putting up pretty much the normal here!
Got that 100 still got that picture that
proves YOU WRONG AGAIN!
Blah Blah Blah is alls famous way of
derailing the CHAT!
Blah Blah Blah
I got heels can't pull out the shit kickers
to get down and dirty for the case!
BLAH picture is worth a 100 BUCKS!
PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
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Who the hell cares who took a given picture? Honestly, why are you so hellbent on proving this? I don't care if you took the picture, didn't take the picture, whatever.(I can't even SEE the picture at the moment, because i'm getting the blue-question-mark syndrome)

What does whether or not you own the rights to a picture have to do with finding Maura? All it says to me is the same thing the past several pages/ worth of your posts have been saying: "Look at me. I am important. I have friends close to this case. I can provide information. I can get off my butt and go down to the county clerk's office and find documents (or have someone find them for me, since I'm friends with them)."

WE GET IT. YOU LIVE THERE.

I for one cannot, in fact, get off my butt (actually if you care, I'm standing up as I type, so I wouldn't even have to get off it) and go to the county clerk's office in question because it's a 12-hour car ride away. Does that make me less caring of Maura's whereabouts than you? No. It just makes me further south.

You keep harping on how hard you work to get information, and bashing those people who cannot do the footwork because they don't live locally and thus have to rely on other forms of communication, AND YET YOU DO NOT PROVIDE ACCURATE INFORMATION, EVEN WHEN ASKED FOR IT.

Was there DNA testing done on the air bags?
FireCat

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just sayin wrote:
but when the answers are NOT in the reports, shouldn't you look at everything else "factual" -- which would include those logs???
Exactly. "We don't have facts to stand on" is exactly the problem.

That's all anybody's asking for. If we can't see what's there, how do we know what it is?
FireCat

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mcsmom wrote:
Hey white wash, granting something to the public domain is a complete abandonment of all rights.
Get your facts straight.
I'm pretty sure that what mcsmom says is backed up by everything I've ever read on copright laws. Which is rather a lot. If your photo isn't in the public domain, that's another matter, but it still isn't pertinent to the discussion of Maura.

Why is it that every time you post, WW, you turn into an argument about you and how we're all wrong and you know more than we do?
White Wash

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Odd I don't remember attack mcsmom I do believe
she attacked me!
Second I'm tired of addressing one person to have you butt in!
Why is you have that need?

I do believe a paper who copy rights anothers
works should be questioned!

You have made yourselves clear that if it suits your needs doesn't matter.

I do live here I work here!

12 hour car ride? Piece of cake for something you
care so much about!

You don't have an issue with us spending all our
time on what we care about?

Maybe if you spent as much time actually listening
as you do trying to find FAULT this may go so much
easier!

As you can see from your pokes and jabs and butt in's.

Yea it's all me!

It's ok I got the shit kickers to get out in the woods and look you keep banging on that keyboard!
FireCat wrote:
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Who the hell cares who took a given picture? Honestly, why are you so hellbent on proving this? I don't care if you took the picture, didn't take the picture, whatever.(I can't even SEE the picture at the moment, because i'm getting the blue-question-mark syndrome)
What does whether or not you own the rights to a picture have to do with finding Maura? All it says to me is the same thing the past several pages/ worth of your posts have been saying: "Look at me. I am important. I have friends close to this case. I can provide information. I can get off my butt and go down to the county clerk's office and find documents (or have someone find them for me, since I'm friends with them)."
WE GET IT. YOU LIVE THERE.
I for one cannot, in fact, get off my butt (actually if you care, I'm standing up as I type, so I wouldn't even have to get off it) and go to the county clerk's office in question because it's a 12-hour car ride away. Does that make me less caring of Maura's whereabouts than you? No. It just makes me further south.
You keep harping on how hard you work to get information, and bashing those people who cannot do the footwork because they don't live locally and thus have to rely on other forms of communication, AND YET YOU DO NOT PROVIDE ACCURATE INFORMATION, EVEN WHEN ASKED FOR IT.
Was there DNA testing done on the air bags?
White Wash

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Shack Attack oh I was going to post on the DNA
but given the post I' guess I'll wait!

You got the answers figure it out oh smart one!
FireCat wrote:
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Who the hell cares who took a given picture? Honestly, why are you so hellbent on proving this? I don't care if you took the picture, didn't take the picture, whatever.(I can't even SEE the picture at the moment, because i'm getting the blue-question-mark syndrome)
What does whether or not you own the rights to a picture have to do with finding Maura? All it says to me is the same thing the past several pages/ worth of your posts have been saying: "Look at me. I am important. I have friends close to this case. I can provide information. I can get off my butt and go down to the county clerk's office and find documents (or have someone find them for me, since I'm friends with them)."
WE GET IT. YOU LIVE THERE.
I for one cannot, in fact, get off my butt (actually if you care, I'm standing up as I type, so I wouldn't even have to get off it) and go to the county clerk's office in question because it's a 12-hour car ride away. Does that make me less caring of Maura's whereabouts than you? No. It just makes me further south.
You keep harping on how hard you work to get information, and bashing those people who cannot do the footwork because they don't live locally and thus have to rely on other forms of communication, AND YET YOU DO NOT PROVIDE ACCURATE INFORMATION, EVEN WHEN ASKED FOR IT.
Was there DNA testing done on the air bags?
White Wash

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Who said I donated it?
I don't see how sending it to Helena was
a donation to the website?
Second it was copy righted by another paper so
she should have made note of that!
Why is so hard you to admit when you are wrong!
Hum now gee whiz what was the music website napster is that still running?
Oh no cause why?
Infrigement on copied righted material.

Seriously just a little research before you slap
is that really asking too much?
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I'm pretty sure that what mcsmom says is backed up by everything I've ever read on copright laws. Which is rather a lot. If your photo isn't in the public domain, that's another matter, but it still isn't pertinent to the discussion of Maura.
Why is it that every time you post, WW, you turn into an argument about you and how we're all wrong and you know more than we do?
White Wash

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Please explain to me why you feel the need to tag
team everyone one here!
McsMom attacks me and you all jump on it!

How are your actions any better than what our HPD
is facing on the street a while back?

Gangs are Gangs!

Period!

I don't expect anyone else here to answer, read, or speak my mind!

Maybe you should try letting the other ducks be
Big Ducks with big Duck PANTIES ON!
FireCat wrote:
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I'm pretty sure that what mcsmom says is backed up by everything I've ever read on copright laws. Which is rather a lot. If your photo isn't in the public domain, that's another matter, but it still isn't pertinent to the discussion of Maura.
Why is it that every time you post, WW, you turn into an argument about you and how we're all wrong and you know more than we do?
sophie bean

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Lady Gray wrote:
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Is this statement a "tongue in cheek" "facetious" statement:
"I did not realize that White Wash is the author and photographer of the Hanson Express articles. I'm not sure how I missed that."
I think it must be? For others reading, White Wash is NOT the author/photographer of that series.
‘Maura is Missing” series honored at NEPA
Written by Justin Graeber
Friday, 08 February 2008 19:00
The Express took home three awards at the New England Press Association’s Better Newspaper contest Saturday night, including two top prizes.
The Express took home three awards at the New England Press Association’s Better Newspaper contest Saturday night, including two top prizes.
Express Publisher Josh Cutler and Editor Justin Graeber display the award at the NEPA convention Saturday in Boston.
Maribeth Conway was honored with a first place prize in the category of investigative reporting for her four-part series on the disappearance of 21-year-old Hanson woman Maura Murray four years ago. The series was edited by Josh Cutler. Here’s some of what the judges had to say:
“A remarkable series!… The story shows off all the qualities of good journalism –– tremendous sourcing, meticulous research, tracking paper trails, etc.–– and it tells a fascinating and heart-breaking story.
The Hanson Express should be commended for publishing such a first-rate series. Reporter Maribeth Conway and her editor Josh Cutler also need to be commended for their hard work in pulling together such a comprehensive package of information for readers. Maybe someday their incredible work will help solve the mystery of Maura Murray’s disappearance.”
http://www.whitmanhansonexpress.com/index.php...
Yes, it's tongue in cheek. I don't really believe that WW wrote the Hanson Express article. It appears that she may have taken a picture that was used elsewhere, although I don't know that for a fact.
FireCat

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ROFL, it's none of your business what size panties I wear, but at least mine aren't in a perpetual knot over I can't even figure OUT what anymore.

I guess this is what they mean when they say "don't get into a pissing contest with a skunk." I never said mcsmom attacked you. Apparently you think "provide contradictory information" or "attempt to correct factual error" is the equivalent of "attack."

From what I can gather, White Wash, you're all hat and no cattle. That's of little importance to me, compared to finding Maura. You go on and do whatever you feel like doing. I can't bring myself to care about your antics anymore.
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White Wash wrote:
Shack Attack oh I was going to post on the DNA
but given the post I' guess I'll wait!

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Oh, that's just ripe, White Wash. Go ahead and withhold information that could help Maura's family, just out of spite because you think you're playing some sort of game here, trying to prove who's smarter than whom.

That's really priceless. Well done. It truly paints a picture of you as a mature, compassionate adult (in adult-sized undergarments, which are apparently important to you) who cares about justice and finding Maura, rather than playing, "I was gonna tell you, but you're a big meanie, so I'm taking my marbles and going home."
FireCat

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Lavendula wrote:
Callousness and insolence bring to bare unanimous social condemnation, while the simple efforts of politeness are admired; even in those who are otherwise despised.
....interesting.
whiston

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hi all,has anyone ever done a carfax search on the saturn.i have always wondered where it was and when and what miles were on it.When did maura get her license . I think we know this was her first winter driving.Was the ATM she used at her own bank.If a car is found abandoned by a suspected drunk driver in N.H. is a search warrant normally requested.Is there anyone local that could answer this.take care philip
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All good questions Philip.
Shack

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Philip your questions seem to be very basic and non-threatening to anything or anyone. Not detrimental, in any way of hurting the investigation. It has been written here, words to the effect, that we can't determine much from just pages of log and page of accident report. Hello...that is all we have. I would like one very simple verification of the time of withdrawal of the $280. An odometer reading
also could be telling also. At least that might dispel some here who thought that the car might have been towed the 150 miles from Amherst to Woodsville.

Elsewhere, re: log/acc. rpt...yes....that is about all we/I have from the area. All else appears to be shoulda, coulda, might have been.
Do you or Lady Gray...anyone with a memory...remember about an accident on route 10?..I don't know who said it, when or where. Rte. 10 heads South...Piermont..Orford..Lyme etc out of Grafton County ....down into Sullivan/Cheshire counties.
(might hit Merrimack Cty.?..too lazy to look now)

Sophie..thought at first you were referring to the JO article..seemed that it might have been
re-written/edited...? As a collaboration ?
I dunno..

Firecat...ditto ditto ditto....(said better than I) and so on.......
Mcsmom..yeh, I DO remember, very well, the comment regarding the elderly lady who needed assistance...sad....
Reminded me of my dear ol' mumsie and how stubborn she was at the thought "wearing one those fool things around my neck". ;-]
Looking4AMoose

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hi all,has anyone ever done a carfax search on the saturn.i have always wondered where it was and when and what miles were on it.When did maura get her license . I think we know this was her first winter driving.Was the ATM she used at her own bank.If a car is found abandoned by a suspected drunk driver in N.H. is a search warrant normally requested.Is there anyone local that could answer this.take care philip
Philip, more often than not, when I travel up 112, there is usually at least 1 if not more, cars that have been left by their owners. It's a common area for hiking, sight seeing, hunting, etc. so its not uncommon to see vehicles pulled over. They are typically pulled over in areas where the road is wider, or there's a pull off in the area. There are also several houses on 112 where the people park their vehicle in the road so that they don't have to fight the ice and snow to get up their driveways in the winter. The vehicles are typically facing in the correct direction depending on what side of 112 they are on.
Shack

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This is not about Maura. Last night, I saw a quick blurb on the News...about Missing Jennifer Fay, in MA. in Nov.1989.
New evidence....(think it was Monday?) I have tried to find it...but, my computer is .....arrgh!(many bad words)
My tv volume was down...but, I spotted a beautiful
black Lab, wearing a little vest, bouncing around and wagging her/his rear end..running back and forth from an area of woods to her/his (person) owner.
I caught some...very little of it...
LPDAM detectives ...a name of Michele Littlefield....Molly Bish Foundation....
I don't know the outcome..only that it amazed me...and gave me a morsel of hope...that maybe...just maybe....

(AND, it brought back bitter-sweet memories of
my dear black fur people)

Looking4...just read your Post...I can attest to that...but, only in Spring - Fall....don't recall that I ever drove it in the Winter...mostly parked on the river side turn-offs.......
WHITE WASH

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Oh but it's ok for your buddy to
show her age by posting the same?

Good Lord if you'd all take off the Rose Color Gang Bang Glasses so you
could HEAR what a forum this would
be!

You're priceless you can share with someone who refuses to accept it!

Gang Bang Way!

So put that in your BIG GIRL PANTIES oh yes you are too mean and stuffy to say
such words like PANTIES PANTIES PANTIES!

Good Day All!
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Oh, that's just ripe, White Wash. Go ahead and withhold information that could help Maura's family, just out of spite because you think you're playing some sort of game here, trying to prove who's smarter than whom.
That's really priceless. Well done. It truly paints a picture of you as a mature, compassionate adult (in adult-sized undergarments, which are apparently important to you) who cares about justice and finding Maura, rather than playing, "I was gonna tell you, but you're a big meanie, so I'm taking my marbles and going home."
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Oh my god. Will someone please tell White Wash that a six year old has hacked her account?
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Shack,

Read you post last night and looked up all of the articles I could on Jennifer Fay.

Thanking once again the Volunteer Private Investigators & SAR Teams for the Molly Bish Foundation for all of their dedication and hard work on so many cold cases throughout New England.

It appears that an article of clothing or an item was found along some train tracks within the past few months that rekindled this cold case and prompted this latest search in a poplular area, a pond, for the kids on the 19th anniversary of Jennifer's disappearance.

Recently read an article about a group of retired and semi-retired law enforcement officers in Oregon whom have dubbed themselves 'The Cold Case Cowboys'

Again, urging my friends whom work in LE soon to be retiring to consider the same down here in my neck of the woods.

Hey Firecat,

Have you read the Grafton County Police Logs? Didn't intentionally exclude you from the list, just wasn't sure if you'd reviewed the logs.

Lady Gray,

Thanks for the input on the Grafton County Dispatch logs.

I remember when Citigirl posed the question about the changes a few months back.

Oh and Shack,

Re: accident reported on Route 10 via a radio report of Maura's disappearance that first week. This person who conveyed this info happened to be driving on Route 10 while listening to the radio report.

Like 1Anne, I consider this individual who conveyed this information to be very credible. Gosh knows, after four plus years you get to know people. Lots of good people by the way.

Whiston,

Good to hear from you.
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