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FireCat

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elsewherebriefly wrote:
Hey Firecat,
Have you read the Grafton County Police Logs? Didn't intentionally exclude you from the list, just wasn't sure if you'd reviewed the logs.
A while ago, now. Not offended. Didn't even notice I'd been left out of the "in" group. LOL. And certainly don't ask me to quote chunks of it from memory, as I can other things. But I do remember it seemed pasted together in places. And I *do* wonder what's missing. Not because I am a conspiracy theorist, but for the simple reason that knowing facts--in this case what we aren't reading--can exclude or include certain theories.

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Nov 22, 2008
 
elsewherebriefly wrote:
Shack,
Read you post last night and looked up all of the articles I could on Jennifer Fay.
Here is a link: http://www.whereisjennifer.org/jennifer/

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Toast anyone?

http://www.embeddedarm.com/software/arm-netbs...
elsewherebriefly

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Thanks for the link BF,

This is the link to the results of the last search for Jennifer Fay.

http://wbztv.com/local/Jennifer.fay.search.2....

I hear ya Firecat,

Not much into conspiracy theories either.

Just find it difficult when I have someone screaming in my face, on a daily basis, to read the facts and the paperwork.

Beleive it or not, one's angst anger and tone comes across in one's words on this forum.
elsewherebriefly

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#8145
Nov 22, 2008
 
oops, believe.
Shack

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BF..I had found that site...was beginning to
think that I was hallucinating the other night
when I saw it on a Boston TV channel...
Thanks Elsewhere for the updated site...woof!
Had thought of calling Helena and asking her if
I was crazy...(I know she keeps up with info)
Shack

Natick, MA

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Elsewhere..still a bit confused about the "accident on Rte.10"
And, 10 meets/joins 302 in Woodsville.(a few miles before 112)
I know that Beth, on the Friday, after 2/9, was driving home from work and heard about Maura, on her car radio. She wrote me that she headed right up to Haverhill. I tried to find that email from her...but, there are over 200 emails....and I am now blurry eyed.
Do you think that this could be anything to do with the call Anne heard? Or was this "accident"
on a different day that week.

Thank you for trying to jump start my memory....
Lady Gray

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Shack wrote:
Elsewhere..still a bit confused about the "accident on Rte.10"
And, 10 meets/joins 302 in Woodsville.(a few miles before 112)
I know that Beth, on the Friday, after 2/9, was driving home from work and heard about Maura, on her car radio. She wrote me that she headed right up to Haverhill. I tried to find that email from her...but, there are over 200 emails....and I am now blurry eyed.
Do you think that this could be anything to do with the call Anne heard? Or was this "accident"
on a different day that week.
Thank you for trying to jump start my memory....
Hey Shack! You asked recently if I remember an accident on Route 10. I don't remember hearing this. Doesn't mean it didn't happen but doesn't ring a bell with me.

Do you think it was Route 10 in Grafton County?
Shack

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Hi Lady Gray,..that's why I asked where, on Rte 10..The next Grafton Cty towns South of Haverhill are Piermont, Orford, Lyme, Lebanon...(not
included in copies of Grafton County Log).Rte 10
continues South down to and through Merrimack Cty?, Sullivan County,then Cheshire County..(which borders Massachusetts)
If this "accident" was related to Maura...guess it could mean Haverhill...but....(route 10....guessing...is at least 100 miles.,,
nor even considering that 10/302 continues North from Haverhill)
Seems if this was something that Beth contributed, I would recall. Elsewhere remembers
it...maybe from the first Forum....?
Perhaps the contributer, if still here, will state it again with more details. If not...guess what...another dead end.. ;-/
Nothing new.....
Anne

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At the 2006 search, I had a conversation with Beth concerning that she had heard of an accident 'nearby' (not at weathered barn) and had immediately gone to check it out. She never stated where exactly just said a couple guard rails were knocked over and she checked around for glass etc.. It seems to me she posted this with a picture of the spot where that was.
Shack

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#8151
Nov 22, 2008
 
Anne, I do remember that!!...however, I thought it
was at the turn...where 112 goes right..off of
10/302....the wide opening..by the campground..
or very close to it ..yeh!...and before the actual
incident site...wonder if that photo is still
somewhere. With my computer...it would take
forever...loaadding photos takes soooo lonnng.
TX Anne..!
elsewherebriefly

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Hey again Shack,

The radio report of an accident on Route 10 was something I brought up right before MMM shut down last Spring.

The person who heard the initial radio report of Maura's disappearance and the location of the accident being stated on Route 10 immediately replied and confirmed.

Weeper announced that the Volunteer Private Investigators and LE had hit a brick wall.I was attempting to go back to the beginning and was grasping at straws so to speak.

I also brought up the tow truck guy that Silky mentioned on the first MMM forum. He was known to drive around in search of disabled vehicles.

A local followed up on my comments about the tow truck guy on MMM over here on this froum. MMM shut down at that point.

He entered into the home of an eighteen year old girl and attempted to sexually assault her. The case was dismissed. What's that phrase you use, uppercrust?

Thankful to the local for letting me know about the tow truck guy, Tom Conrad, and the what the rookie EMT stated to his friends about Maura's accident initially being regarded as a classic DUI leaving the scene.
Shack

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Yeh Elswhere.."Upper crust" was a term that a local wrote on the Forum...and the "Big guys" who run the Town..I refered to it as "Shepherd's Pie"..Another local/poster..in the First Forum also used the same terms...PM'd me that s/he was
afraid and wouldn't be writing anymore.

Sure miss Silky's input...she was fearless in
the quest for justice with the "underbelly"..the term that Maribeth used in Hanson Express.
elsewherebriefly

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Outsider wrote:
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Laura left the area due to a domestic/custody dispute with Bill. she didn't own the Chalet she leased it. Steve the owner of the building still lives in the area. Danny Marsh has been told to shut down countless times for a variety of violations. Not everything he has done has been up to state specs and the EPA has been involved more than once for illegal dumping. Danny ran into bigger financial problems when he purchased the property from Lee Jackson and the IRS seized it. To date he hasn't recouped. As far as him putting a lot of money into anything again is untrue. Most locals don't do busy with Danny unless they get paid upfront in cash. Most wont even barter with him anymore because he doesn't hold up his end. Several local businesses won't even take his checks anymore because of his reputation for not paying or putting money into things. What should be of more concern to you is the fact that Claude who everyone knows has a violent nasty side and penchant for woman half his age wasn't the only type of person working with Danny or hanging around JetStar who did. He had two David's working for him. One of whom has had several restraining orders etc against him and is known for being abusive physically and mentally to women and children. He has also been deemed abusive by the court and ordered to receive treatment by a shrink and attend a batterers program. He has sexually assaulted woman before. That Dave took off many times to Alabama and stayed gone for months at a time. He even evaded the police who were looking for him when a missing persons report was filed for quite some time. He has conned many people, especially woman. The other Dave, who was Danny's friend and employee for years finally had to be let go because of the creepy things he would say and do to woman. Joel, Claude's son also spent a great deal of time at JetStar after being released from prison for attempted murder, also obviously has a nasty violent side. Right down the road from JetStar you have another garage. The owner of that garage sexual assualts extremely young woman when he is more than twice as old as them. He frequently travels 112 and 116 and has a tow truck. When he was fifty something years old he sexually assaulted and terrorized a girl barely 18 years old girl in her home. That woman had the guts to go after him. That girl fit the description of the serial rapist that has been running around that everyone is talking about. After going to court several times, he was convicted of sexual assault but managed to plea his charge down to simple assault. He was able to do that due to his last name and being a prominent business man etc. How many other predators like that are running around the north country with no one paying any attention to them?
There are a lot of scary people in the haverhill area that should be looked at....
Confirming my last post.
elsewherebriefly

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Outsider wrote:
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Please understand this person was a relatively new first responder...according to them being a newbie they were more inclined to watching, listening and making note of everything being said and done etc. Maura's disappearance has bothered them for years which is why they brought it up after a night of drinking themself...they said that they initially expected that Maura's accident was like many that happen in the northcountry where someone has been under the influence leaves the scene of an accident in order to avoid getting in trouble with the police etc. They did clearly state that the car smelled faintly of what was believed to be alcohol and the their was a bottle in the car believing to have alcohol in it. They also stated that judging from the way the car looked they expected that someone had injuries resulting from the accident. Is there a list somewhere of all of the people who arrived on the scene?
Confirming my last post.

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Shack wrote:
Anne, I do remember that!!...however, I thought it
was at the turn...where 112 goes right..off of
10/302....the wide opening..by the campground..
or very close to it ..yeh!...and before the actual
incident site...wonder if that photo is still
somewhere. With my computer...it would take
forever...loaadding photos takes soooo lonnng.
TX Anne..!
The photo, if lost, shouldn't preclude a follow up IMHO.
OK - Maybe Weeper knows about this location - but if not - that may be a help - certainly for a possible location of a theorized first accident (I don't necessarily agree possible - but I still would check anyway, in this manner:

An element within some of these theories involves a criminal leaving the Saturn [but not having a car, traveling on foot - realistically the criminal could only go a limited distance on foot from there. In the situation where more then one person was involved - first accident, criminal leaves with Maura, partner in crime drives further, seen by Atwood.) To investigate that element it involves the set of people who lived or worked close to that area.

My (highest belief) is that Maura found foul play somewhere south and the car was driven recklessly from that point forward [Working backwards - south of the first incident of calls about reckless driver]
I think to find more of these reports - it is a matter of retrieving police logs along the roads Shack and Elsewherebriefly state and those roads that lead to them _from Amhurst_ which is not what the police did when they "played Battleship" retrieving the logs - it was a line from Boston to far East for even a race car to make it with heavy damage - in my humble opinion.
Lady Gray

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Nov 23, 2008
 
Anne wrote:
At the 2006 search, I had a conversation with Beth concerning that she had heard of an accident 'nearby'(not at weathered barn) and had immediately gone to check it out. She never stated where exactly just said a couple guard rails were knocked over and she checked around for glass etc.. It seems to me she posted this with a picture of the spot where that was.
http://travel.webshots.com/album/555425874UiM...
Quija

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#8158
Nov 23, 2008
 
Some excellent posts above. Link for JetStar zoning board meeting:

http://haverhillnh.us/Resources/5.13.04.Zonin...
Quija

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#8159
Nov 23, 2008
 
Another JetStar Link:

http://www.town.haverhill.nh.us/Resources/10....
Quija

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Nov 23, 2008
 
Zoning board meeting with some people mentioned by Outsider.

http://www.town.haverhill.nh.us/Resources/10....
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