Your town. Your news. Your take.

Local News: Franconia, NH 

 | 

Sign Up

 | 

Sign In

 
Advertisment

Where is MAURA MURRAY

Comments (Page 408)

Showing posts 8141 - 8160 of 11997
« prev | next »
Go to last post | Jump to page:
Anne

Middletown, VA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8201
Nov 26, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

There are thanks to be given here, we still are talking about a girl, Maura, whom disappeared almost 5 years ago on Feb. 9, 2004. Although dissension is intense at times, we are still discussing what happened to her when she left Amherst and her vehicle ended up in Swiftwater in NH. We should all try to be cognizant of the 'missing' that are never mentioned again after the date they went missing. When we arrive at adverserial, heated topics, I hope we can see the purpose.
Home and family. Bless Maura's family and friends. May you find a small measure of comfort in that many of us will never quit until we know what happened to her.
FireCat

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8202
Nov 26, 2008
 

Judged:

1

Anne wrote:
There are thanks to be given here, we still are talking about a girl, Maura, whom disappeared almost 5 years ago on Feb. 9, 2004. Although dissension is intense at times, we are still discussing what happened to her when she left Amherst and her vehicle ended up in Swiftwater in NH. We should all try to be cognizant of the 'missing' that are never mentioned again after the date they went missing. When we arrive at adverserial, heated topics, I hope we can see the purpose.
Home and family. Bless Maura's family and friends. May you find a small measure of comfort in that many of us will never quit until we know what happened to her.
Amen.

Joined: Jan 25, 2008

Comments: 125

Shallotte, NC

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8203
Nov 26, 2008
 
Hey Peri,

Great to hear from you!

Page 193 Post 3870 is where Weeper's posts begin. That should get you off to a good start. The rest of his posts after that should be easy to find.

I will hope everyone has a safe and pleasant holiday.

As always, my thoughts and prayers go out to Maura & the Murray family.
Quija

Concord, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8204
Nov 26, 2008
 
FireCat wrote:
Argh. Thanks for posting that (twice, apparently) Quija. The hanson express links have moved. It used to be southshoreexpress dot something. Now it's http://www.whitmanhansonexpress.com . I googled it a while ago when White Wash was talking about the photo she gave to Helena.
Hi Peri! A very late happy canadian thanksgiving to you in return.:)
Thanks, FireCat, I wasn't able to find it!
Quija

Concord, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8205
Nov 26, 2008
 
Looking4AMoose wrote:
<quoted text> if you're referring to the .pdf files that the series consisted of, I have them saved on my harddrive and will email to anyone who would like them, if that helps at all.
Moose, thanks, I'm grateful you and FireCat didn't let something so well done "fade away". This is really valuable for new posters (and for all to reread too!).
Sooz

Babson Park, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8206
Nov 26, 2008
 
Peri ~ great to hear from you!! Check Chandra's site when you get a chance ...I left a message there for you a while back.

Sooz
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8207
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Thanks elsewherebriefly, you saved me an immense amount of reading and anxiety, thanks for that, it is appreciated.

Thinking out loud:
I went back last night and read the report on Maura IV parts re: Hanson Express...I noticed again a striking thing, the email from Maura to Billy.

It struck me that there is something wrong there, for example the first two I's are capitalized, then there are words that are mispelled and the usage of the wrong tense, and the word to instead of two.

Now given I'm dyslexic, that is the way I might right a note. However given that Maura was an honors student and in college for a number of years, the note does not match her level of education, and given the fact that she is hanging about her room calling and planning a trip north, she would not have been in a hurry. So the note to Billy was not written in a hurry.

Perhaps someone in Maura's family or her friends who read here might comment on her English skills, and her letter writing? Did the note to Billy strike anyone as oddly written? Just a thought....

off to read weeper's comments

Enjoy your turkey one and all, or whatever you are eating, and I join you in giving thanks for the bounty of our lives and countries..
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8208
Nov 27, 2008
 
gee, correction..of above post
speaking of dyslexia, I made mistakes in the above posts

correction..........
the usage of the word to, instead of too

also correction the remaining I's in Maura's note are not capitalized.
citigirl

Bridgewater, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8209
Nov 27, 2008
 
wishing you all a happy and safe holiday
WHITE WASH

Worcester, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8210
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

5

4

4

Looking at the judgement on this post
others feel otherwise.
Your post will speak for themselves so
pointless to waste time even trying to
get you to listen.
This is not a BOOK CLUB, Women who hate LE,Family Website ect it's is a PUBLIC FORUM I see no need to WELCOME NEW COMERS IT SHOULD AND WOULD WELCOMING AND INVITING ALL THE TIME if people would mind their own manners instead of everyone else's. It's not a CLUB!
I am not a member! IT IS A PUBLIC FORUM all SHOULD AND ARE WELCOME to add to the puzzle of Maura as far as I'm concerned.
I think if you spent as much time on your own manners as you did correcting
others your posts would be judged a little different!
GOOD DAY FIRECAT!

To all other posters!
A wise man/woman know everything.
A strewd one everybody!

We who care in the Middle of No Where
wish all a very Happy and Safe Thanksgiving! There no great joy and blessing that family we will continue
to hope and pray and some of here look Maura until she is home where she belongs.
FireCat wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea where you get that impression. I have plenty of good things to say about LE. Allowing them to be human might even be considered one of them.
I am far from perfect. I've never pretended to be perfect.
Thanks for making our new members feel so welcome, White Wash. Once again showing your true colours.
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8211
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

This morning since 5 a.m. now 10:00 am. have been trying to catch up, studied maps, and looked up abortion clinics see next post.

There is little question that Maura was upset in the days preceeding her disappearance, since all was well with Billy it is not likely relationship problems that was stressing her out, other than being away from Billy. Take a look at Billy and watch him on 20/20 and listen to his words, there is little doubt he loves Maura, looking at the videos of Maura there is little doubt Billy made Maura very happy. Body language never lies....

Maura could have been considering transfering to Dartmouth campus, which is not far from where she went missing. The following Monday was the last day to transfer to another institution without being penalized, the universities are affliated so no loss of scholarship.

Maura may have been considering transfering specialities, trust me Nursing is brutal. She was in a Pediatric rotation, this is the most brutal of all the rotations. There is no mystery surrounding where Maura was training, it was posted on the 1st Maura forum and perhaps on MMM.
There is a good possibility that the source of being stressed out or having a melt down was related to Nursing School,out of my class of 112 student, only 55 graduated, many of those who graduated did not last long or never practiced Nursing. I speak here first hand, that Nursing is like being in a battle zone, well I refer here specifically to hospital nursing.

I was 34 at the time I graduated, and had a whole life before then, and nothing prepared me for the brutality of the Nursing and Medical profession. It is not for the weak of heart...I'm not saying that Maura was weak hearted, quite the contrary, however one could easily find themselves studying for a profession that was a wrong choice.

Maura had already decided the Military was not for her, perhaps she was being to doubt her choice of profession or needed to change Universities. Perhaps she disliked her Ped Professor?

Just throwing out possibilities. Second possibility below of why Maura needed a hiatus from the grind....perhaps Maura was going to check out Dartmouth
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8212
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

1

PART 2
I apologize to Billy his family, Maura's family and to her friends and loved ones that the below post might be disturbing, but it seems to me that Maura might have been considering having an abortion.
Although Maura took birth control pills, sometimes they do not work, taking antibiotics, antifungal agents, stress, poor manufacturing, age of pills older ones do not work, and the possibility Maura forgot to take a pill, and the last reason is irratic taking of pills, example, take one in the morning and the next day at night, and forgetting to take one. I have seen many, many pregnancies in women who faithfully took their pills.
Maura wanted to talk to her Father the night she was in the accident in Amherst on Sat./Sunday morning. It seems to me that to head out to talk to your Father at 0300 says that there is something serious on your mind. After having the accident, whatever was on her mind she likely tucked away for another day. Also when she spoke to Billy after talking to her Father, Billy said he thought there was something else bothering her besides the car accident. The day Maura went missing she emailed Billy saying she needed to talk to him, as well she called and left him a message, and as well she checked her messages before she left.
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8213
Nov 27, 2008
 
Part iii
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8214
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

1

Part iii

I checked out the clinics four years ago, the price at the time was around $225.00 and planned parenthood will accept insurance payments..
Maura had a credit card besides the cash on hand.
The only clinic in New Hampshire where you can get an abortion is in Manchester, in Mass. is at Springfield, and in Vermont the clincis are in Barre and Burlington.
Although abortions are available in hospitals, a nursing student would avoid that for privacy sake. One might go as far as going out of state for privacy.
Also the Thursday before Maura went missing, she received a phone call that reduced her to tears, that phone call was traced from the University, re: FBI investigated. It was not her sister Kathleen's phone call. This phone call was after midnight, about 0040 I believe. I considered that perhaps she knew Vaisi who had been in the accident, however, it might have just been what happened to him, if she was pregnant, Maura's emotions could have been fluctuating and had a melt down when someone called her at the desk to tell her about the accident...
irrespective of the phone call, Maura's emotions were raw, and after the accident this likely accelerated....dramatically
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8215
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

1

part iv

If Maura was headed to Barre or Burlington for the reason mentioned above perhaps she wanted to consider her options first by relaxing in the mountains and talking the matter over with Billy first but given her emotional state she had to get away pronto....
If Maura was headed to Barre or Burlington, the most likely place for an ambush or abduction would be White River Junction or Well's River.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone by my suggestion but to me it explains Maura being distraught, need to get away, heading to Barre or Burlington, lying about a death in the family to her professors is the only way to get time off in Nursing School, especially during clinic, because the clinic time has to be made up before you can complete the course, this means the professor has to stay after University is finished which does not make them happy, so it is critical not to miss time, and it is never granted except under extrodinary circumstances, therefore anyone in nursing school who wants time off other than illness is obligated to lie. And although Maura was going to be off school for a week, that is not to say she planned to stay in the mountainous area for the whole week, for all we know she could have been only going for a day or two, as I recall she did not have a great deal of clothes with her so perhaps she only was going for a short time.
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8216
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

1

part v

The room packed up could have been for staff to clean, or she never unpacked, she had been back to school only two weeks, and perhaps lived out of her suitcasef the family had access to Maura's computer they could check what she searched for on line re: abortion related....
taking the birth control pills with her does not preclude that she was pregnant, immediately after getting an abortion most people begin the pill, it is recommended that you wait for the first period afterwards, but many people do not....no real reason to wait, other than Doctors want to make sure everything is working....
If Maura was pregnant, it would explain her emotional liability, her silence, and running for the hills.

Pardon my mind the way it works, but to me the only thing that would make me so silent, is having an abortion. I had one, and went to New York, by myself, and told no one...and trust me going from Halifax to New York by myself, no money, and in a state of distraught, a university student, without money, alone; I know this, one takes desperate measures in such circumstances, and to consider I was 23 and a University student, it was no small feat. Although my guilt was enormous it did not prevent me from what I did because I wanted to finish school, anyway it is not about how I felt. Given Maura took drastic measures to drive that far, inexperienced, in the dark, a poorly working car, lied to her professors, kept her plans from anyone, sounds like she had something to hide, and I do not believe she had a new boyfriend or lover, and she would not have traveled under such conditions unless it was very important!
JMO

Gloucester, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8217
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

2

1

1

Why is it often repeated that Maura was an inexperienced driver in poor weather conditions? She was 21 years old at the time and grew up in New England. Assuming she drove from the usual age of 16 or 17 years old, there would plenty of driving experience behind her.
JMO

Gloucester, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8218
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

4

3

3

WHITE WASH wrote:
Looking at the judgement on this post
others feel otherwise.
Your post will speak for themselves so
pointless to waste time even trying to
get you to listen.
This is not a BOOK CLUB, Women who hate LE,Family Website ect it's is a PUBLIC FORUM I see no need to WELCOME NEW COMERS IT SHOULD AND WOULD WELCOMING AND INVITING ALL THE TIME if people would mind their own manners instead of everyone else's. It's not a CLUB!
I am not a member! IT IS A PUBLIC FORUM all SHOULD AND ARE WELCOME to add to the puzzle of Maura as far as I'm concerned.
I think if you spent as much time on your own manners as you did correcting
others your posts would be judged a little different!
GOOD DAY FIRECAT!
To all other posters!
A wise man/woman know everything.
A strewd one everybody!
We who care in the Middle of No Where
wish all a very Happy and Safe Thanksgiving! There no great joy and blessing that family we will continue
to hope and pray and some of here look Maura until she is home where she belongs.
<quoted text>
Well stated, White Wash.
I'll interrupt my Thanksgiving preparation to comment.

Since a few have admitted to being nurses here, and since this group of little hens is so quick to sterotype Maura and be privy to her innermost thoughts...I will add by way of perspective that nursey-nurses tend to be sterotypically 'tough', like to exert their authority, and expect compliance...from the patient, or whomever.
Hence, the nut crackin' solid-core group of theorists we find on this PUBLIC thread.

Posts 8211-8216 are a rehash of possibilities, none of which can be confirmed.

As a little background info., White Wash, you may or may not know that the MM folks were actively recruited to combine forces, so to speak, and tie together the issues of Maura's disappearance and Liko Kenney's death just after the MM site folded. Hence, this thread began.

The unifying force was and is, to my knowledge, the condemnation of NH LE.

Seemingly, one needs to confirm the AG's unwillingness to reopen the case of Liko Kenney and absolve him of his actions in killing a police officer, while also believing the poor response of LE to be the failure in finding Maura Murray in order to belong to the 'club'.

It is tasteless and offensive, in my opinion, for strangers to probe into Maura's private life with half-hearted apologies to Fred Murray.

Maura remains a victim of unknown circumstances. Until she is found, or until a witness steps forward, all the speculating in the world will not solve this mystery.
JMO

Gloucester, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8219
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

3

2

1

peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote:
part v
The room packed up could have been for staff to clean, or she never unpacked, she had been back to school only two weeks, and perhaps lived out of her suitcasef the family had access to Maura's computer they could check what she searched for on line re: abortion related....
taking the birth control pills with her does not preclude that she was pregnant, immediately after getting an abortion most people begin the pill, it is recommended that you wait for the first period afterwards, but many people do not....no real reason to wait, other than Doctors want to make sure everything is working....
If Maura was pregnant, it would explain her emotional liability, her silence, and running for the hills.
Pardon my mind the way it works, but to me the only thing that would make me so silent, is having an abortion. I had one, and went to New York, by myself, and told no one...and trust me going from Halifax to New York by myself, no money, and in a state of distraught, a university student, without money, alone; I know this, one takes desperate measures in such circumstances, and to consider I was 23 and a University student, it was no small feat. Although my guilt was enormous it did not prevent me from what I did because I wanted to finish school, anyway it is not about how I felt. Given Maura took drastic measures to drive that far, inexperienced, in the dark, a poorly working car, lied to her professors, kept her plans from anyone, sounds like she had something to hide, and I do not believe she had a new boyfriend or lover, and she would not have traveled under such conditions unless it was very important!
To travel from Amherst toward NH/VT for an abortion doesn't make sense...as Boston and New York provide plenty of options.
peripeteia Nova Scotia

Halifax, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8220
Nov 27, 2008
 

Judged:

3

2

2

JMO wrote:
Why is it often repeated that Maura was an inexperienced driver in poor weather conditions? She was 21 years old at the time and grew up in New England. Assuming she drove from the usual age of 16 or 17 years old, there would plenty of driving experience behind her.
FYI

Maura only had her license for approx a little over a year, her car had been malfunctioning, and technically it would have been her first winter
driving, how do I know her Aunt told the forum at MMM so. Given she was not driving her car, and that her clinicals were all over the place and she was having difficulty getting rides to her clinical which were far and wide. It is not a quantum leap to say that Maura was an inexperienced driver also setting out in the dark, in winter, heading towards the mountains, what took her North had to be a fairly significant event in her life. Also Maura never ventured on any such trip alone in her life, as reported on MMM. So it is not understated that she was an inexperienced driver. Rather than come on so strong why not ask why someone says something than assuming....
Showing posts 8141 - 8160 of 11997
« prev | next »
Go to last post | Jump to page:
Type in your comments to post to the forum
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent Franconia Discussions

Search the Franconia Forum:
Topic Updated Last By Comments
Sentencing deal off for Franconia man 7 hr Snowy White 83
2 held in Haverhill death Fri alichar 127
King bash here (from Jul '08) Thu Snowy White 2116
Rumble in Woodsville? Jan 8 lower slower... 79
Normand M. Boisvert of Easton and Other Sex Off... Jan 2 yankee 28
spies who love you Jan 1 johneyonetime 1
Poll: is cable tv over priced Dec 31 johneyonetime 0
See all threads in the Franconia forum »