Where is MAURA MURRAY

ScooterD wrote:

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Once again, the times just don't seem to match up...first sentence "Shortly after 7:00pm..." hears a noise; BUT doesn't call until 7:27pm???? Ilive in a very similar location as to where all this went down.#1, I don't understand how no one would have taken the time to throw on a jacket & run out to see if the person needed help. It's the fricken middle of winter & dark for god's sake. "Oh gee Bertha, looks like someone just went into the ditch right outside...what else is on tv?" ARGHHHHH!!! I realize this probably has nothing to do with the whole picture ...or does it? Why would you NOT go out to help?? Man/men in or around car so you figure they no what to do?!? I get they saw SBD and would think he would help but there still seems to be enough time where no on acted/reacted.
I remember way back when we (forum) experimented in the dark with a cell phone & cigarette to see how it looked to someone else from a distance away. If I recall correctly - there was clearly a difference. The "on and off" glow of puffing on a cig; the backlight of the phone quite noticeable; the phone charger light not noticeable.
My 2 cents for the moment....

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Shack wrote:

Scooter...Welcome back!! If indeed..you are are indeed the same Ol' Scooter...;-]...
We have had within the last year a few Posters who have Posted with different names....In fact, one of the main reasons of the MMM Forums closing was due to the fact of ...how to put this delicately...hmmm..
I thought I was the reason....cuz I have been hated for so long by Woodsville
resident.... another Poster thought s/he was reason for asking too many questions.
Ones who thought it was amusing to distract the rationale of our purpose of finding justice for a missing girl. Sometimes there were bizzare periods of bizarre yardi yardi...Anyway, since July 2008, and closure of MMM Forum,
we have had periods of ie one person(s) writing using different names.
One can easily determine and scroll on by the weirdo and anger....Most still adhere to basic decency/manners ...Bottom line is still, the Haverhill, NH citizens do not want to know that Maura was harmed in any way within their township.
PS If Bob the Bartender is still here...he is hiding under a different name....haven't recognized him as yet...

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whiston wrote:

hi all.a couple of thoughts.we dont know if the saturn driver was going west toward Woodsville .There is and was a sticker on the car that tells the world that the driver may be a student.One of the Westmans may have seen the driver trying to use a cell phone which may put a phone at the saturn, which may have pinged in the area later.We dont know who to believe about what time the saturn arrived at the barn.I have always wondered if the driver walked down to mrAtwwods driveway ,hence the trail and simply got in the passenger seat because it was easier when returning to the saturn. If Maura was driving the saturn she may have not wanted P.D. called because that could mean her family would find out about he trip.They would run the plates etc.If Maura used the AAA card in Hadley she carried it with her to the saturn it has been reported found in the saturn.If a bottle of booze is found under a car after it is towed could this be used as evidence in a drunk driving case.I think it would cost too much [dollar wise]to tie it to a drunk driving case and unless the driver admitted they had dumped it it would be useless and sgt Smith would know this.take care philip

peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote:

Hi Scooter! Only just arrived myself, lots of reading and new information, and of a real shocker is that we come to find out that there was a troupe of emergency crew on the scene, as well as at least4 police officers, pictures were taken, evidence secured, well you could have blown me over with a feather... good to see ya, take care

Mason wrote:

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The problem with that scenario is why did the red truck not follow the Saturn after it passed him? Why did the driver wait 10-12 minutes for the SBD to drive by? Why didn't he immediately approach the Saturn?

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Mason wrote:

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I think the bottle of booze under the car that you referred to was a coke can that smelled like it contained alcohol. Unless FW was hallucinating or mistaken, she saw another person at the crash site smoking a cigarette. Maura hated cigarettes so she wasn't the person FW saw. Her now deceased husband disagreed and said he thought the red glow was from a cellphone and he concluded that the driver was trying to call someone for help. Since it's a dead zone, however, the call wouldn't have gone through. The smoker may have brought the can to the scene and dropped it there. I hope the cops seized it and sent it to the crime lab to be swabbed and DNA tested. The person who drank the coke may have left saliva around the hole and that saliva might yield a DNA profile that does not match Maura.
Red glow from a cell phone? What was he thinking? Maura had a Samsung cell phone according to her website and they posted a picture of the model. I can't recall any cell phone that emitted a red glow, except the screen lights up when the user dials a number and goes dark after the call goes through. Since the caller has the phone pressed to the ear waiting for the call to be answered, I don't believe the red glow FW saw was from a cell phone. Besides when a smoker inhales the red glow brightens considerably. VC snipers in Viet Nam at night used to aim just above the glow and pull the trigger when it brightened. Quite a few of our boys were picked off that way.
I'm pretty sure the cops must have inventoried the alcohol in the car and compared it to the receipt, assuming they found the receipt when they searched the car. They seem to have known where Maura bought the stuff in Amherst. I'm playing the what-if game inserting psychosis into the mix as an explanation for Maura's weird behavior, so I'm guessing that she didn't consume enough alcohol during the drive to have blown a 0.10 BAC.

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Detective Columbo wrote:

Just to clear something up.....
Within a month of Maura's disappearance, people in the area were getting very sick of Mr. Murray and his family as well as investigators asking questions. Most people didn't even want to talk to us. A few locals are quoted as saying, "nothing happened to her, she was drunk, suicidal, troubled and more" I live only a short distance from the acc. scene and I have questioned almost all of the people who live in the 2 to 3 mile radius. I don't believe I ever heard one person say "Sorry I can't HELP" most just brushed us off and said "Good Luck" or "Get off my property" .......Yeah, there are alot of nice caring people up here. I even had guns pointed at me when driving into peoples driveways. "WELCOME TO NH, NOW GO HOME" Like the bumper sticker says.
Just a point I want to make....

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Detective Columbo wrote:

Another note....
It is not the "Mariotts" The correct spelling is "Marrotte" John and Virginia.

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Detective Columbo wrote:

Another note....
It is not the "Mariotts" The correct spelling is "Marrotte" John and Virginia.

Detective Columbo wrote:

Just to clear something up.....
Within a month of Maura's disappearance, people in the area were getting very sick of Mr. Murray and his family as well as investigators asking questions. Most people didn't even want to talk to us. A few locals are quoted as saying, "nothing happened to her, she was drunk, suicidal, troubled and more" I live only a short distance from the acc. scene and I have questioned almost all of the people who live in the 2 to 3 mile radius. I don't believe I ever heard one person say "Sorry I can't HELP" most just brushed us off and said "Good Luck" or "Get off my property" .......Yeah, there are alot of nice caring people up here. I even had guns pointed at me when driving into peoples driveways. "WELCOME TO NH, NOW GO HOME" Like the bumper sticker says.
Just a point I want to make....

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Detective Columbo wrote:

"Probably would have gotten that if they
had called 911 instead of just watching!" Quote
You said it best White Wash!!!!
That is the problem.....People don't want to get involved. Watch from the window and if it doesn't effect them....OH WELL. Just like when people go by an acc. scene, they have to slow down to look, but most ppeople would not even stop to see if they could be of help. TODAYS SOCIETY.

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Mason wrote:

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Did you interview the construction worker, RF?
What was your take on him? Can you share what he said?
Same questions regarding the hospital employee.
They are my 2 prime suspects, which is why I ask.

Saturnus wrote:

So, there's only one offer to help in acquiring a recent photo (or any for that matter)of the CW? Sad. You'd think there was at least one floating around out there. A P.I. should have one. Something as simple as this could dismiss or affirm my suspicion. Use discretion and Email it only to angeldotmikezeroatgmaildotcom .

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White Wash wrote:

Inspection of Oct 17, 2003 interesting!
So how does MA work on inspections?
It was in Fred's name and given how much
he loves Maura I can't image him putting
her in an uninspected car!
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Firefly wrote:

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Thinking aloud here... I don't think she got out of the car until the SBD approached her? Is this correct? If so, maybe red-truck-driver was waiting until she got out. Thoughts?