Where is MAURA MURRAY

peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote:

No bother for anyone to voice their opinions regarding the validity or non-validity of such things as clairvoyance, ESP, and the whole nine years, first I don't care, and if you are questioning me, then it is obvious you do not have such experiences, and I cannot help you to understand...and be thankful the curse is not yours.

I get those too. I call them dreams though and pay them no mind. They are a form of amusement though at times scary. I can sometimes actually make them do what I want them to do so I make most of mine happy dreams. I also remember how current events can interject themselves into my dreams such as when my wife was pregnant with both my boys I use to have dreams about fighting some demon for my son. Later found out that is a very common dream for fathers to be. Trying to protect ones unborn/newborn son from danger. Also certain medications as I am sure you know can also cause remarkably vivid dreams.

When you call them visions it makes them sound important. Does that mean something about them has made you believe that they have had some relevance in your life?

Do you have some sort of track record that makes you believe that your dreams have any validity? I am just trying to understand any relevance.

Bill

sophie bean wrote:

For about the hundredth time - I am not sure if NH has red-on-white temp plates. I don't think they do. Surely someone from NH can clarify this. VT has temp plates that are white with red lettering, the opposite of the VT LE plates which are red with white lettering.
We NEED to at least identify the plates correctly.
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Here is a link from a NH license plate collector showing the various NH plates over the years.

http://www.nhlpm.com/index1.html

I also work with another collector who says NH has had red on white as temp plates since the mid 80"s.

Benjamin Franklyne wrote:

WTF-the-original #8939 - I am surprised to read now that you are an engineer and did not speak up earlier when I brought up that I thought the car did hit a tree. I have the exact conclusion you do - but have felt that I was not qualified to make a determination as I am not an engineer - however -

BF - I have mentioned that before but I am certainly not an "expert". I have some experience but I certainly could be wrong especially since I wasn’t able to actually examine the car. I have suspicions but the “experts” have conclusions with no room for error apparently. At this point all I have is my suspicions and some simple experiments that I have done but cannot actually conclude anything. Try modeling the hood shaping a piece of paper in the shape of the hood and apply a force near the corner of the paper. I have had it buckle in a very similar fashion to what the hood looks like.

I still would like someone to answer me if the hood has any gouges like you would typically see in a metal on metal collision to cause that type of deformation. I certainly cannot see it in the phtotos but it could be there.

Bill

Mason wrote:

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I referring to the photograph of the damage to the front end of the Saturn that I got from a link at the mauramurraymissing site.
It looks like a red round-shaped object in the lower right corner of the headlight just below the big dent in the hood. I can't tell what it is. I'm wondering if it might be a blood stain or smear of some kind. I don't think it's an artifact from the photographic process. No one has mentioned it, so I thought I'd ask the question and see if anyone has an answer.

I think it is the bulb for the turn signal.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/09/grace.col...

Some missinformation especially related to Maura but for what its worth. And I thought that the police had actually ruled out a connection between the two but of course Maura didn't disappear off of a road in VT either so who knows what they have gotten wrong.

Bill

Just took off a Red and White temp plate for NH!

LvsNH wrote:

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Here is a link from a NH license plate collector showing the various NH plates over the years.
http://www.nhlpm.com/index1.html
I also work with another collector who says NH has had red on white as temp plates since the mid 80"s.

For the love of Maura please contact the LE with
this case let them have the information you
have.

Saturnus wrote:

My query for a photo of the CW goes unanswered, so I can only assume that none who post or lurk here have one or are willing to share.
This is my third and final plea to the forum before I leave this forum permanently and search for it myself:
For the love of Maura, please, please, please, I'm begging any of you to send a recent photo of the CW to angeldotmikezeroatgmaildotcom .
I'm not asking for anyone to camp outside his home or approach him or follow him, this would constitute harrasment.
Do you want to help me corroborate facts (which I'll share only with LE or PI's)or do you want to just keep on riding the endless carousel of unsubstantiated theories and continue fighting and bickering amongst yourselves? Stay focused. Do it for Maura.

beach bum wrote:

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You have a history of making exceptionally incompetent and profoundly stupid remarks, and you have once again lived up to your laughable reputation with this latest remark of yours. Either you are as pitifully stupid as your comments render you to be or you work in LE in the area yourself.
You claim that they searched for her? Yes, they did, THIRTY NINE HOURS AFTER SHE WAS FIRST APPEARED TO BE MISSING YOU MORONIC IMBECILE. How stupid do you look.
You also claim that they interviewed the neighbors? THEY NEVER INTERVIEWED THE NEIGHBORS. They questioned them to see where the driver went, and that was just for a few seconds. Even days later, they STILL did not interview the vast majority of the neighbors. And WHEN did they interview Rick Forcier? Explain this to me.
THEY NEVER *INTERVIEWED* THE NEIGHBORS UNTIL IT WAS MUCH TOO LATE (including Rick Foricer, a man they waited MONTHS to properly interview). THEY DID NOT CONDUCT A SEARCH FOR THIRTY NINE HOURS AFTER THE ACCIDENT. Does it even cross your mind how blatantly stupid you look by making such inaccurately dumb statements? Either do your research or shut your mouth. Don't distort the facts to help your own interests.

Not much worth responding to here - I'll let your own characterization of me speak for your character - not a response I didn't expect.

off-topic but informational....
seems unusual for someone to "disappear", just as it is with Maura....

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO97...

Snowy White wrote:

off-topic but informational....
seems unusual for someone to "disappear", just as it is with Maura....
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO97...

It is probably worth mentioning again especially for the newer people. As someone whose job in the military was to be invisible and to disappear after an engagement with the enemy it is remarkably easy to “disappear”. It has as much to do with math as anything else. Distance equals time times speed. That is if you know the direction of travel. If you do not then that it becomes that distance squared times pi. This equation tells you that the area you have to search quadruples for every doubling of time going at a constant speed. What you learn is that the area searched becomes daunting in a very small amount of time.

Ever watch a jogger pass in front of your house? How long does it take them to get out of sight and disappear? Seconds, a minute? How hard would it be to find that person if you didn't even know which way they headed? If they have all 360 degrees to travel?

I doubt Maura knows many of the subtle things you learn in the military about things like this but just someone who can jog at 5 mph or maybe more and can probably sprint even faster can disappear very rapidly. If they are actively trying to evade by running into the woods even a few feet is usually enough and hiding behind a tree at night if they hear a vehicle approach it would be easy to get away.

Bill

WTF-the-original wrote:

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We have talked this to death but here we go again.
If someone repeatedly came to my house. Or snuck around my house…

I wanted to clarify this post. I am not accusing either Fred or Det. Colombo of doing this. Fred did make some comments to the NEWS outlets that made me think he was repeatedly bothering the same people over and over. I also believe that some “do-gooders” with or without Fred’s approval may have also been snooping around pissing people off after Fred had possibly repeatedly talked to the same people. I also suspect that by the time Det. Colombo may have been involved people were probably pretty tired of the same questions and seeing people poking around so his welcome might have been the least attractive to see.

Bill

goat wrote:

<quoted text>i will read further as I said earlier I am new. I'm just interested in adding another opinion.

He's not interested in opinions.

get real wrote:

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Why are you so angry, rude, and abusive?

Its worked for him this long, why stop now?

WTF-the-original wrote:

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It is probably worth mentioning again especially for the newer people. As someone whose job in the military was to be invisible and to disappear after an engagement with the enemy it is remarkably easy to “disappear”. It has as much to do with math as anything else. Distance equals time times speed. That is if you know the direction of travel. If you do not then that it becomes that distance squared times pi. This equation tells you that the area you have to search quadruples for every doubling of time going at a constant speed. What you learn is that the area searched becomes daunting in a very small amount of time.
Ever watch a jogger pass in front of your house? How long does it take them to get out of sight and disappear? Seconds, a minute? How hard would it be to find that person if you didn't even know which way they headed? If they have all 360 degrees to travel?
I doubt Maura knows many of the subtle things you learn in the military about things like this but just someone who can jog at 5 mph or maybe more and can probably sprint even faster can disappear very rapidly. If they are actively trying to evade by running into the woods even a few feet is usually enough and hiding behind a tree at night if they hear a vehicle approach it would be easy to get away.
Bill

got it...on your 2nd attempt to explain same. LOL
i live with a former engineer...but don't carry the gene.

Matt thanks!
So in Maura dorm where would she have done her laundry?
How far is parking from her dorm?
Thanks

Matt wrote:

In addition to that I would like to add that I just graduated from Umass this past May. I also grew up and still live in Maura's hometown of Hanson, Ma. So if you have any questions about location of things...I might be able to answer them.

Wait so all those Fire people looking that night
really where out on the game trail, old peterson
road to up Bradley Hill.
I'm sure Mr. Westman will be glad to know that
he was not out looking that night for a young lady!

What makes me rolling around laughing is all the people call others stupid without thinking how
stupid themselves look!

Seriously why do we need the name calling?

beach bum wrote:
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You have a history of making exceptionally incompetent and profoundly stupid remarks, and you have once again lived up to your laughable reputation with this latest remark of yours. Either you are as pitifully stupid as your comments render you to be or you work in LE in the area yourself.
You claim that they searched for her? Yes, they did, THIRTY NINE HOURS AFTER SHE WAS FIRST APPEARED TO BE MISSING YOU MORONIC IMBECILE. How stupid do you look.
You also claim that they interviewed the neighbors? THEY NEVER INTERVIEWED THE NEIGHBORS. They questioned them to see where the driver went, and that was just for a few seconds. Even days later, they STILL did not interview the vast majority of the neighbors. And WHEN did they interview Rick Forcier? Explain this to me.
THEY NEVER *INTERVIEWED* THE NEIGHBORS UNTIL IT WAS MUCH TOO LATE (including Rick Foricer, a man they waited MONTHS to properly interview). THEY DID NOT CONDUCT A SEARCH FOR THIRTY NINE HOURS AFTER THE ACCIDENT. Does it even cross your mind how blatantly stupid you look by making such inaccurately dumb statements? Either do your research or shut your mouth. Don't distort the facts to help your own interests.

hi Matt.and welcome .saurnus i dont have a oicture of Risk Forcier i would gladly give it to you.Matt , anything you can dig up about Mauras prior life would only add to the almost nothing we have now.If Riick Forcier moved out of his house i have to assume it was searched as was the Atwood residence either when it was vacant or with the gracious consent of the new owners.I am nowl looking for anything that may show that Maura unpacked her car after she came back from christmas break.Sharon gave her gloves and a AAA mambershio .they were found in the car.Jewlery was found in the car .Was that a disregarded christmas gift, i dont' know.I have seen nothing to show that Maura ever unpacked her car after the chrismas break.If she came back from christmas break i assume she brought laundry and that was the only thing she took from her car and that would include her underwear.I still am aking does anyone know what day Maura returned to Amherst or is this like her job her classes her free days the location of her clinicals .We are asked to believe that it is an unknown or it has been ' deemed not important' by mrMurray.somebody in Mauras past knows what her life was like and why she left.Were her running shoes found in the saturn because sh had not used themi in a very long time.Beagle i hope you are sfe and warm and getting some help philip

Normally universities have student pack their rooms because they go into clean the floors etc, and I believe you are not to post things on the walls, so if cleaning staff is coming in, you would removed everything from the walls and floors.

Given that Maura was back for two weeks she likely did not unpack as she began clinical right away..

I'm wondering if Maura had snow tires on, it was my understanding that Maura had not driven the car for sometime...

I would imagine that her cylinder blew after the inspection...but for sure it was stated Maura was uncomfortable driving the car....

Thinking about the car in neutral, someone might have left it that way so it could be towed, obviously it was able to be towed with the car in neutral on a flat bed truck...Lavoies' Towing

Interesting thing happened today 100 km from home, traveled a road not taken before, mistake as all the signs were snow covered, it snowed two days ago, every single sign was covered, I have never seen that before, I had to get out and dust a sign or three off to find out where I was going.. it made me think of how easy it is to get lost....

Does anyone know if Maura was living in the dorm she was escorted to by the supervisor before the Christmas break? I thought I read something about another apartment, but not sure.

whiston wrote:

hi Matt.and welcome .saurnus i dont have a oicture of Risk Forcier i would gladly give it to you.Matt , anything you can dig up about Mauras prior life would only add to the almost nothing we have now.If Riick Forcier moved out of his house i have to assume it was searched as was the Atwood residence either when it was vacant or with the gracious consent of the new owners.I am nowl looking for anything that may show that Maura unpacked her car after she came back from christmas break.Sharon gave her gloves and a AAA mambershio .they were found in the car.Jewlery was found in the car .Was that a disregarded christmas gift, i dont' know.I have seen nothing to show that Maura ever unpacked her car after the chrismas break.If she came back from christmas break i assume she brought laundry and that was the only thing she took from her car and that would include her underwear.I still am aking does anyone know what day Maura returned to Amherst or is this like her job her classes her free days the location of her clinicals .We are asked to believe that it is an unknown or it has been ' deemed not important' by mrMurray.somebody in Mauras past knows what her life was like and why she left.Were her running shoes found in the saturn because sh had not used themi in a very long time.Beagle i hope you are sfe and warm and getting some help philip

Whiston are you certain she took her car home on Christmas break, I thought she was not driving the car?!

Saturus:

I requested pictures of Smith, CW and SBD, none were forthcoming! I presume you want these for perhaps the same reason..

to see if they have a black aura or something to that affect...