Where is MAURA MURRAY

goat wrote:

<quoted text>misunderstood a post then. impression she text books were missing

Oh puh-leeze, it's all good. Happens all the time. That's one of the reasons I think people want to condense/organize. information gets strewn about so easily here.

Keep the ideas coming, goat, you've got a lot to say.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Firecat,
I recall Weeper mentioning he believed the damage to Maura's vehicle possibly occurred 1-3 miles from the Weathered Barn, the Saturn's final resting place.
I'll have to dig through the posts and pull it up for confirmation though.

Yes, I remember that particular number as well coming from Weeper.

goat wrote:

<quoted text>give us new yorkers a laugh if you don't mind how much was property bill on how much land up there

LOL, goat! I don't want to hear it. I live in the county with the highest property taxes in the country.

Fortunately, I don't own any property, so I don't have to pay them. But still.

;-)

Anyone know if a search was conducted along the South Landaff Road? As you're headed E/B on Rte 112 after the accident scene, it's a quarter of a mile past the bridge over the Wild Ammonoosuc River. Take a left off the 112 (at 44 degrees 06 minutes 19.65 seconds West & 71 degrees 52 minutes 17.47 seconds North).

The road heads up a pretty steep hill gaining 200 feet in elevation before it flattens out. It runs alongside Dearth Brook, which is just off the right side of the road. A little over a half mile from the 112 (0.54 miles), it connects to a road with the same name. At this point, you can turn right (E) or left (W) and the road generally follows the river running along the hill above it. If you head east, it connects back up to the 112 just 1.39 miles past the bridge. The forest is so dense that you can barely make out a few portions of S. Landaff Rd during that stretch.

Anyone driven that road?

M

BTW, someone awhile ago mentioned that the number 44 kept coming up. Well, all of these locations are a little over 44 degrees north latitude, and I now realize that I misstated the coordinates in the previous message. The numbers are correct, but the N & W are reversed. Sorry.

FireCat wrote:

<quoted text>
LOL, goat! I don't want to hear it. I live in the county with the highest property taxes in the country.
Fortunately, I don't own any property, so I don't have to pay them. But still.
;-)

oh suffolk county, ny very high

thanks to those who recommended post 1200 ref red truck. either somehow involved or h#** of a coincidence. leads me further toward theory of planned disappearance. Is anyone familiar with Ro ? is she good ource

Elsewhere, yes..that is what I was thinking about...that chart...thank you for setting me straight.

I realized just before I fell asleep last night that Maura's phone was probably pinging all the way from Amherst to the accident site and after, assuming it was turned on. She had the charger with her because it was in the Saturn when the cops searched it.

Question: Was the charger the type that plugs into the cigarette lighter of a car, or one that plugs into an electrical wall socket? If the former, she probably had her phone on and hooked up to it during the drive and she unplugged a fully charged phone from the charger cord when she left the Saturn. Right?

That's another indicator that she intended to return to the car.

Now that we're all experts on pinging, does anyone know if the cops checked to see if the cell towers between Amherst and Woodsville picked up her pinging phone and, if so, the times that she crossed from one zone to another?

We have reason to believe that Sprint's coverage didn't extend to the accident scene, but what about after 7:45 pm when her phone was in her backpack?

She went somewhere. If she went W/B on the 112, it seems likely to me that a tower would have picked up her pinging phone.

If she made it, or her backpack made it to the North Woodstock/Lincoln area where the 112 meets up with I-93 N/B, seems to me that there would be a Sprint tower there that would have picked up her pinging phone if it was on and we would know when that happened.

What do ya'll think of that?

Sharon (Billy's mom) could find out because the phone was on her account.

there is an old peters road on mva report diagram don't see iton google map is there a reason for this or am i just missing it

As long as that phone kept pinging, whether she used it or not, the phone's location could be tracked from tower to tower until someone turned it off or the battery died. That could be 36 to 48 hours, or more, depending on the make and model of the phone.

According to the mauramurraymissing website, she had a Samsung SPH-A620/VGA1000 and there's a picture of it with all of the specs that you can review. Click on the link to the accident report and its listed along with phtos of the car. Click on the link to the phone and you're there. Looks like it had all or most of the bells and whistles.

Something I want to try and make clear re: organizing the forum w/various threads. I don't think any of us want to "reinvent the wheel." There are organizational resources available to us already - such as the chart & other work that has been done by our forum team. My way of thinking is along the lines of creating threads in Topix that will 1) direct people to those resources already developed 2) piecing apart our current forum and referencing posts with new information, new theories, new facts (if there are any!, etc). Without a search ability within this current Topix forum, it's very difficult, time consuming, pain in the butt when someone asks where they can find specific information.

Does this make sense? Do you guys want me to drop it? SnowyW, were you thinking along the same lines?

(just made chocolate chip cookies - help yourself everyone!)

Mason wrote:

Question: Was the charger the type that plugs into the cigarette lighter of a car, or one that plugs into an electrical wall socket? If the former, she probably had her phone on and hooked up to it during the drive and she unplugged a fully charged phone from the charger cord when she left the Saturn. Right?

Maura had both chargers with her. So presumably it was plugged into the Saturn whilst she drove. Can't confirm that, of course, since I wasn't in the car. But she did have a wall and a car charger with her.

goat wrote:

there is an old peters road on mva report diagram don't see iton google map is there a reason for this or am i just missing it

Old Peters Road is visible on my Google map and satellite. It looks like it peters out into a dead end. Well named, eh what?

It intersects 112 immediately after (E) the Weathered Barn and heads south.

ScooterD wrote:

(just made chocolate chip cookies - help yourself everyone!)

Munch, munch. GOOD. Want more. Want to spoil dinner. Munch munch.

Nothing like chowing down when you're looking for a dead body, eh what?

Question: How do you ditch a corpse if you live in a fairly rural area but are aware that local search efforts are presently underway and if you drive to some rural quarry you might encounter a curious cop or a bunch of amateur searchers who jot down your plate number?

Store it for awhile?
Burn it?
Ditch it on your property or a neighbor's property with minimal travel?
Travel to a good dump site despite the known risks on the assumption that you can pull a "lover's lane" act or "lost" routine if questioned?

That would be:

Nothing like chowing down on fresh out-of-the-oven chocolate chip cookies when you're looking for a dead body, munch munch, eh what?

RE: "But she did have a wall and a car charger with her."

My dear Firecat,

Where exactly can you fit a wall inside a 1996 Saturn?

Our demo derby delight keeps getting more and more interesting, doesn't it, Watson?

FoolsGold wrote:

Question: How do you ditch a corpse if you live in a fairly rural area but are aware that local search efforts are presently underway and if you drive to some rural quarry you might encounter a curious cop or a bunch of amateur searchers who jot down your plate number?
Store it for awhile?
Burn it?
Ditch it on your property or a neighbor's property with minimal travel?
Travel to a good dump site despite the known risks on the assumption that you can pull a "lover's lane" act or "lost" routine if questioned?

You left out the correct response. You open up your trunk, take out the AK-47, and eliminate witnesses.