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Mason

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Saturday Dec 27
 
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Here is a link to info about the sanitorium.
http://dartmed.dartmouth.edu/summer03/html/mo...
Thanks, that was an interesting read and different from what I expected, which was a gloomy mental hospital.

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peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote:
whereelsewhere:
I believe you asked me about Pauline Clark, seems you know more than I do about her and you are likely correct that her remains were found in the Mountain Lakes area. I understood that it was a brook off St. Peter's road less than a mile away, that is likely in the Mountain lakes area.
I do not know whom was named a person of interest,
but from what I have read, which is scanty the husband and wife were having problems, and that is always suspicious when the spouse ends up lying face down in a brook in a remote area.
Theresa Allure and 2 other women were found like Pauline face down in a brook near the American boarder on the Canadian side, near Sherbrook,(m.s,)Quebec which is not all that far away as the crow flies. Perhaps it is a copy cat murder situation..
just seems strange.
Hi Peri,

Great posts and questions.

Detective Columbo provided a number of details regarding Pauline Clark over on the new forum. Thanking him once again and thanking you for your input on Pauline as well.

The remains of a women by the name of Donna Whiteside from Dracut, Ma. were found in my hometown area under a bridge in a shallow river in 2000. At the time I was unaware of the others whom have gone missing and were murdered so I assumed it to be an isolated incident.

She was found nude with just her cross necklace around her neck. To the best of my knowledge the source of her death was not made public.

In 2001 a women by the name of Carrie Lavallee from Nashua, NH was found in the Conn. River in Hinsdale, NH. Also nude with just her cross necklace on as well. The result of her death was blunt force trauma to the head.

I've been reading John's blog for years and for the longest time I had no idea he lives/works just (2) hours away from me. Theresa's investigation was recently featured in Dr. Kim Rossmo's new book.

Weeper,

Great to hear from you!

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Hi again Peri,

I posted this passage earlir by Dr. Kim Rossmo when the topic of psychics arose. I figured I'd post it again because I thought you'd appreciate it.

"And that concludes the presentation except for one quick story I’d like to tell you. A couple of summers ago, a young girl by the name of Mindy Tran was abducted and murdered in the town of Kelowna in the interior of British Columbia, and before her body was found she was a missing person and there was a lot of concern, a lot of media attention, posters up everywhere, this type of thing.

The RCMP detachment, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Klona were responsible for the case. A psychic lady came in to them, she said “I can help you find Mindy Tran’s body”. Also a hair-finder guy came in to them and he said “I can help you find Mindy Tran’s body”. Do you know what a hair-finder is? No? Okay, you have a little plastic film canister and you take the hair of the person you’re looking for and you put it in that plastic film canister, you attach that to a stick, and it takes you to the person you’re looking for.

So the RCMP figured they would get rid of two nuts at once, took some hair from Mindy Tran’s hairbrush which they gave to the hair-finder guy, and they put him together with the psychic lady and they said “go do your thing”. So the psychic lady stood on top of a hill in Kelowna, and she did her thing, and she said “I believe Mindy Tran’s body is in that park”. They walked down the hill to the park, and the hair-finder guy did his thing, and he wandered around the park for several hours, with his hair-finder, and he found Mindy Tran’s body. It’s a true story, I can’t explain it, I only tell you that because those people could put us out of business."

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Wowzer

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Mason wrote:
Weeper and Detective Columbo:
I recommend you consider searching the following areas when you guys conduct your next series of searches.
1. Whitcherville Road between Lost River Road (Rte 112) and Coventry Road (Rte 116). Whitcherville Brook, which flows into the Ammonoosuc River runs alongside the road through a gorge located about 0.9 miles west of Benton on the 116. Approximately 0.4 miles south of the 116, you come to a fork in the brook. Facing south, Whitcherville Brook branches left and, if you follow it to it's origin, you'll arrive at Whitcher Pond, which also is called long Pond, I believe. Howe Hill Brook branches right but doesn't go very far.
2. Long Pond Road, which is approximately 0.4 miles west of Whitcherville Road on the 116, also looks like a promising area to search, particularly in the area where the Fire Road branches east and crosses Whitcherville Brook. The Fire Road, which is 1.3 miles from the 116, on Long Pond Road looks like an ideal body dump site, assuming it was accessible in February.
3. Go another 1.4 miles south on Long Pond Road to reach the Long Pond Access Road. That looks like another area worth searching.
4. The area around the Sanitorium, which is 7.3 miles from the 116 on Long Pond Road also looks promising as does the area where Long Pond Road runs alongside Jeffers Brook. This area is on Long Pond Road between Whitcherville Pond and Sanitorium Road.
I recommend these areas because they are remote but are easily and quickly reached from the area around the Weathered Barn in a few minutes. There's a way out that allows the driver to return to the area around the Weathered Barn without doubling back. Long Pond Road turns into Sanitorium Road which takes you to Glencliffe. A right onto Mt. Moosilaukee Hwy at Glencliffe takes you to East Haverhill. Take a right on Lime Kiln Road, which also has some promising areas to search, and just before you reach Haverhill Center, take a right on Benton Rd and you're back in Benton.
Best wishes for the new year and good luck with the search.
Mason I never heard of Witcherville Rd or Witcherville Pond before. For as long as I can remember it has always been called Long Pond.
Are you talking about Tunnel Stream Rd when you say Witcherville Rd?
Long Pond Rd is not plowed in the winter and is gated on both ends in the winter. Fire roads and old logging roads are also closed in the winter.
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In 2001 a women by the name of Carrie Lavallee from Nashua, NH was found in the Conn. River in Hinsdale, NH. Also nude with just her cross necklace on as well. The result of her death was blunt force trauma to the head.

They found the person that killed Carrie. I knew this girl. Our families grew up on the same street.

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gvmeabrk wrote:
In 2001 a women by the name of Carrie Lavallee from Nashua, NH was found in the Conn. River in Hinsdale, NH. Also nude with just her cross necklace on as well. The result of her death was blunt force trauma to the head.
They found the person that killed Carrie. I knew this girl. Our families grew up on the same street.
Thanks for the information Gvmeabrk.

It's great to hear the person responsible was brought to justice.
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Sunday Dec 28
 
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Does anyone know the answer to michael nichlolaous whereabout at time and is the connecticut river valley very close
bueler, bueler,.... anyone
Appraiser

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#11115
Sunday Dec 28
 
If the Bish and Murray cases are related, which is entirely possible, then what is known about one case might help the other case.

If, at the same time that Bish's bathing suit was first discovered, someone with access to phones normally used by prisoners at the Worcester County House of Correction was repeatedly calling an ex-priest convicted in the 1980's of having raped two girls, and the priest was, at the same time, calling repeatedly the home of a member of the SAR team endorsed by the Bishes, and if Mr. Bish worked as a probation officer in the same Worcester County criminal justice system... well, wouldn't that seem sort of interesting?
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Something tells me there's some kind of connection (or conflict?) between the clergy sex scandal in Massachusetts, especially regarding Lavigne, and the Bish case. And therefore the Murray case, and maybe a few other cases.

I can't help but wonder if the Bish and Murray cases remain unsolved because solving them might somehow affect the cases against the Roman Catholic Church, especially the Diocese of Springfield (and probably Worcester, too).

Just thinking out loud.
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In fact, the MA PI has been deeply involved in the Bish, Murray, and Catholic church cases. Both he and his forensics sidekick, the Closer, appear to have worked for a very close business associate of SBD's employer. This business associate has shared office space, so to speak, with what I believe is the source of the majority of the donations to the Molly Bish Reward Fund. Not to mention his/their little financial arrangement with John Regan's lawyer. Not to mention that Regan lived near the business associate for a number of years.
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And what if this business associate of SBD's employer (the employer with the office next to Kennedy) went to college with Father Scahill, one of Stobierski's chief witnesses in the Croteau case? After all, Lavigne was assigned for many years to Shelburne Falls, right next to Greenfield. And Scahill also served in Greenfield, although at a different time apparently than Lavigne served in Shelburne Falls.
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So maybe, just maybe, since there is such a large overlap between the people involved in the Bish and Murray cases, on the one hand, and the Catholic Church sex cases, on the other hand, just maybe solving the Bish and Murray cases would impact the cases against the Catholic Church?
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If Weeper brags (or rages) about carrying a gun (and being ready to use it, which is necessarily implicit in his warning), then he must anticipate some armed enemies in the Woodsville area.

So just how safe is it for a guy who has figuratively waved his gun around in public to be meeting the public at such a public place as Dunkin' Donuts?

Seems like it could be a public safety issue. Not to mention a public relations issue for Dunkin' Donuts. Does DD corporate headquarters know about this? Does the local DD manager even know about this?

If Weeper feels he has to show off his weapon to certain people in Woodsville, is a place like Dunkin' Donuts a safe place? Does it really take into account the safety of the public?

Isn't this DD venue a little like Eliot Ness offerng to meet in public anyone who might have information about the Chicago mob?

Does Weeper think someone is going to shoot him and that's why he "waved" his gun around? And now he wants to meet with potential informants in such a public place?

And this guy wants to solve the Murray case? I don't think so.
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#11121
Sunday Dec 28
 
Kind of like a ghost town around here. Must be the holidays.
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#11122
Sunday Dec 28
 
Mason, did you think that Maura Murray was having an affair with an Amherst architect? If so, why mention the movie theatre across the street from the library designed by Asher Benjamin?(Go to asherbenjamin.net for stem cell news.)
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This place is full of nuts.
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Sunday Dec 28
 
Seeker wrote:
This place is full of nuts.
Full?

Full of nuts?

Which nuts?

Try being more specific, please.
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Seeker wrote:
This place is full of nuts.
Do you mean Lady Gray, Elswherebriefly, Shack, and Sophie Bean?

They are all conspicuously absent.
Seeker

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MIXED....!
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Seeker wrote:
This place is full of nuts.
It's also full of a cop who doesn't want some information public, isn't it?
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