Where is MAURA MURRAY

FireCat wrote:

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Pretty sure there was only ONE video (though I don't recall which one it is) and that UMass viewed it and identified Maura. The family has NOT seen the video.
Pretty weird, no?

No, not weird. UMass PD surely must have their reasons.

Benjamin Franklyne wrote:

We've been going back and forth between the two in waves, forgetting about why we thought the person we just talked about was no longer worth looking into.

Who is "we?"

Mason wrote:

Looks to me like she saw Sgt Smith's vehicle pass by the store before 7:30 pm and it's only a mile from there to the scene of the staged accident. This is another example tending to show that the dispatch-tape times are substantially off.
Too many independent observers agree with each other regarding the times that certain events happened. Therefore, the tape times are wrong.

Kind of like what Alexander Butterfield described?

Mason wrote:

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Very weird and it causes me to suspect that someone may have said that the person in the videotape definitely was not Maura Murray and the cops agreed but decided that they didn't want that information revealed, even to the family.
Of course, it's also possible that Maura was identified and the cops no longer regarded her identity to be an issue. I don't know why the family wasn't told that, however. I can't see how that information would have compromised the investigation since it's what everyone expected and that's why I suspect the first alternative.

Joint account?

peripeteia Nova Scotia wrote:

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Thank you citigirl, it did seem unimaginable that the SP had not viewed this photo, why Fred has not been able to see this is suspect that either it was not her, or she was not alone....

Or something she was wearing, which might have indicated something important.

FireCat wrote:

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Didn't he move down there with his mom? There isn't necessarily anything weird about moving to Florida with your 90-year-old mom. Happens all the time.(at this time of year, can you blame them??)

Of course, there's always moving expenses to be considered.

Mastermind wrote:

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Other than SBD's "story" what evidence is there that Maura was in NH at all?

His employer has an office right by Kennedy?

Mastermind wrote:

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In regards to inquiry number two, even if the car was leaking antifreeze, the engine block still hadn't frozen/melted since Fred was able to start the car (assuming Fred is telling us the truth, of course), so if the car was no longer driveable, it probably wasn't because the engine couldn't run. In order for the car to be delivered to the site, it may have just needed to be running reasonably well.
What if the car were delivered by a large tractor trailer to a road that was traveled less frequently, then driven a short distance to the accident site at the WB, where the driver was then picked up by, say, someone in a red truck who followed the tractor trailer to NH from MASS?

Why large tractor trailer? Wouldn't rule it out, but ever see all the race cars (and other expensive kinds of cars) headed north on I-91 in covered trailers towed by pickups or other kinds of vehicles? Extremely common, but not very much so in February.

George Washington wrote:

The thought of what awaits us at Amherst robs me of my sleep.

What are some of the places you slept in when you were younger?

Good to see you back and at the top of your game, Alden.

Anne wrote:

Atwood could see from his front porch.

I don't believe he had a good view Anne. With the lights on and possibly the tv and a stand of trees beteen his house and where the car was how could he see well? I have to turn off my inside room light so it doesn't reflect and peer out the window to see anything at night and I have a lit area outside similar to SBD.
Also have you seen where the CW lives? His house sets back on 112 and is actually closer to Bradley Hill.
With shades pulled at night for privacy, house setting back off the road, woods in between his house and where the car landed and also the neighbors garage blocking his view it doesn't surprise me in the least that he didn't see or hear anyhting that night. Just look at the pictures that I believe WW took of that area and use common sense

Wowzer wrote:

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I don't believe he had a good view Anne. With the lights on and possibly the tv and a stand of trees beteen his house and where the car was how could he see well? I have to turn off my inside room light so it doesn't reflect and peer out the window to see anything at night and I have a lit area outside similar to SBD.
Also have you seen where the CW lives? His house sets back on 112 and is actually closer to Bradley Hill.
With shades pulled at night for privacy, house setting back off the road, woods in between his house and where the car landed and also the neighbors garage blocking his view it doesn't surprise me in the least that he didn't see or hear anyhting that night. Just look at the pictures that I believe WW took of that area and use common sense

You got problems. You just keep making too much sense. You need to stick with Google Earth instead of actually seeing and knowing the places you are talking about.

Benja wrote:

<quoted text>You got problems. You just keep making too much sense. You need to stick with Google Earth instead of actually seeing and knowing the places you are talking about.

It really surprises me that no one that claims they live in the area or any of the PI's have mentioned these things before especially the CW's house. Every time I have driven by their house after dark the shades have been drawn. Can't see in, can't see out. I wonder why no one mentioned these things before.

Thomas Jefferson wrote:

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What awaits you? What have you thrown away, but, yet, still beckons you? Is it an answer George? Is it an answer that rob you of your sleep? Or do you already have the answers George?
I think the answers to the question on everyone's mind on this forum lie in Amherst, but it's sure tough to crack that shell. Better to go to Amherst yourself and find those answers George.

I'll just start out by saying that this post will not be important. Scroll on by to read details about the case. The remaining is to stop questions I know unimportant.

My enthusiasm for this is on the decline - but I don't hope that for anyone else.

I have my opinion, as do others, and it is important that they pursue them as they see fit. I cannot in all honesty claim to have the correct answer, only an opinion, already expressed.

Nothing I said in the two posts relate to any important fact. You have expressed well, in another way, what I meant.... with some modification...[]... in that there are differences of opinion.... "I think the answers to the question [] lie in Amherst, but it's sure tough to crack that shell."

I am not in a position myself to go there.

I apologize for being a wise crack by posting a riddle after someone asked me not to, answer boomerang.

The "boomerang" are subjects previously discussed.

Benja wrote:

<quoted text>What are some of the places you slept in when you were younger?

Over my lifetime, as best I can recollect...now

Hospitals in:
*Miami, FL
*Glendale, CA

Homes in:
Pimbrooke Pines, FL
#Morningside, FL[1]
Bend, OR
Woodland Hills, CA
*Glendale, CA
%Sopchoppy, FL
@Taverneir, FL
!Two Egg, FL
!!Tampa, FL
Santa Clara, CA
Klamath Falls, OR

* My step great grandfather's camper at San Diego

Apartments in:

Miami, FL
Glendale, CA
*Sunnyvale, CA
*Washington D.C.
*New York City
*Detroit, MI
*Kansas City
Mountain View, CA

Hotels in:

*Atlanta, Georgia
*Washington D.C.
*Chicago, IL
*Kansas City, MO
*Niagra Falls, ONT
*Bend, OR
*Klamath Falls, OR
*Sandpoint, ID

* Short stays
# Summer or Christmas 2 weeks to a month
% Summer only, a few days to a week
@ Winter only, a few days
! One night only
!! One night only 10 years apart

[1] I have a t-shirt that says "The Pope Slept Here" to prove it.

Wowzer wrote:

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It really surprises me that no one that claims they live in the area or any of the PI's have mentioned these things before especially the CW's house. Every time I have driven by their house after dark the shades have been drawn. Can't see in, can't see out. I wonder why no one mentioned these things before.

Probably for the reason Amherst is off the list. Few of the facts (which, after all, come from that notorious fountain of truth, the internet)that were thought to have been really true even a few months ago, let alone a couple or more years ago, have held up under scrutiny.

It reminds one of those murder mysteries put on by the Hampshire Shakespeare Company. Maybe there is a Maura Murray who did, in fact, disappear, but the rest is an internet hoax of some kind. Ha-ha!

The people at the top and in the middle of the chain are known. And a few of the victims of the chain are known (which include but are not limited to Maura Murray), but the actual perpetrator in the Murray case could one or more of a few different people.

Is the food at that Wells River truck stop any good?

Brad wrote:

Is the food at that Wells River truck stop any good?

Yes it is. If you ever stop try their Reese's cream pie. It's excellant.

Wowzer wrote:

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I don't believe he had a good view Anne. With the lights on and possibly the tv and a stand of trees beteen his house and where the car was how could he see well? I have to turn off my inside room light so it doesn't reflect and peer out the window to see anything at night and I have a lit area outside similar to SBD.
Also have you seen where the CW lives? His house sets back on 112 and is actually closer to Bradley Hill.
With shades pulled at night for privacy, house setting back off the road, woods in between his house and where the car landed and also the neighbors garage blocking his view it doesn't surprise me in the least that he didn't see or hear anyhting that night. Just look at the pictures that I believe WW took of that area and use common sense

CW lived in a trailer on that property in 04 while the house that CW now lives in was being built. The view from where the trailor was and where the house is would have different views to the roadway.

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