Where is MAURA MURRAY

Maybe Smith, knowing he did an illegal search of the vehicle trying to find answers about the driver was just covering his tracks w/ a bogus police report, really thinking he was going to find the driver and prosecute for DUI, but then was too afraid to let the truth be known. He would have had to admit to lying.
This actually makes more sense why his actions are contradictory, and gives a reasonable motive for his lying about not knowing it was a girl driving.
Maybe seeking the warrant was to cover his tracks. Innocent intentions to "bag" the suspected DUI driver, but then it turns into a missing person.
From all that was stated as well as his demeanor with the family from the get go, it's highly likely he is not being truthful. The question is why.
Thanks BeagleBart for the videos. That suspicious red truck was said to have a dump bed I think. It's possible it could have been a retrofit. Can one of those just dump a vehicle off their bed at will though?

You know, the scenario I mentioned would make sense of a few things. I can't remember, but the dispatch log didn't mention anything about a girl in the car did it? Maybe Smith asked Atwood to cover for him and state he saw the driver because Atwood didn't clearly see the driver, but Smith knew the details because he found them inside the car?
I wonder if the W's saw Atwood shine a flash light. They saw him stop, but I don't remeber their mentioning a flashlight.
I wondered from the beginning how Atwood could be so accurate w/ Maura's weight. I don't know that is something most men guess very well at, especially a 300 lb man.
Maybe this is why Atwood's story changed so many times. Maybe he really didn't see much at all. I mean he mentioned the air bags being in her face. Airbags deflate very quickly so as to not suffocate the driver.
He said she got out, but he says he didn't see her well because of the airbags?
W's stated Smith asked "Where's the girl" when he arrived at their door.
I think this happened prior to his talking w/ Atwood. It's late. I'm tired. If I'm incorrect someone please correct me.

hi all .i may be wrong but sgtSmith i think got the info about a famale driver from the dispatcher before he arrived at the saturn.maybe someone could ask the dispatcher there name is on the accdent report.take care philip

Seriously who believes that car could do 80 miles
an hour up the highway on 3 cylinders because that is exactly the speed needed to put her in Swiftwater in time for Annie's first accident and
give someone enough time to STAGE a second accident.

What is filed with the courts say other wise for
facts!

Seriously do you really think that nobody
measured that hood and the trees out there?

Detective Columbo wrote:

Mauras car never hit any trees, I can assure this. In my opiniopn Her car was placed there for a reason. I don't mean by maura, but by someone else....STAGED SCENE.
Columbo

OH MY wrote:

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What did the professional accident reconstructionist find when they looked at the car? What did they find for information about the airbags and did they deploy at the MMM site?

Maura was an avid hiker in New Hampshire. That said, "Why would she even think she could walk off without protection from the elements?" The reconstruction of the scene conducted by professionals yeilded evidence of foul play...THE CAR WAS STAGED! The amount of damage to her car was not consistant with runnung into a snow/ice bank nor was it consistant with hitting trees. The female discribed was NOT a discription of Maura. The extensive damage done to the front of her car was done after towing. The night of the accident NOairbags were deployed, that didn't happen until it was behind the garage. Talking about a trailor hitch and the possibility of her car coming in contact with one.....Why was it that a white Ford explorer owned by the HPD was involved in an accident, and had a trailor hitch, but was quickly sold to someone in Littleton? There was a white SUV seen in the vacinity that night... When you match the front bumper of a Saturn to the rear bumper of an explorer there is enough room for the Saturn to go just under it...If ST Monohan was there why was there no report? C. Smith gave a brand new leather glove to the dog team for a scent to track, why the glove and not some other articles that were in the car, instead of a new pair of gloves? The fire dept and EMS or EMT's are part of search and rescue in New Hampshire so knowing there was an accident victim out there presumable intoxicated, with a head injury(This spells danger)why in gods name would a senior officer turn them away if there was nothing to hide.
I suggest everyone take a hard look into the first eyewitness description given. I believe it was all in the description of the person seen leaving the accident, meaning the desxription was right just not Maura....

White Wash....

NO....they didn't measure the distance to the trees. Smith only made a sketch on the acc. report. It does not mention the distance to the trees from the car or from the edge of the rd. She never hit the trees, I have seen the car in person and have checked it out. The damage was not done by trees and the trees had no damage to them or any scars.

Columbo

You go Columbo! Your on the right track!

Thanx...

I have been stating this fact for 3 yrs. now, some just refuse to believe this could be true.

Columbo

BeagleBart wrote:

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Closely?

I don't think Columbo is implying anything other than, "Wow, Beagle, you really seem to be on top of details and know your stuff." Pretty sure it was meant as complimentary, if there was any sort of judgment attached at all.(Columbo has never struck me as much of a judger at all, so no worries there)

White Wash wrote:

Seriously who believes that car could do 80 miles
an hour up the highway on 3 cylinders because that is exactly the speed needed to put her in Swiftwater in time for Annie's first accident and
give someone enough time to STAGE a second accident.
What is filed with the courts say other wise for
facts!
Seriously do you really think that nobody
measured that hood and the trees out there?
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It wouldn't be the only thing out there that nobody did that night, or in the following days.....

And I don't believe your mph calculations are correct. It's true Maura wouldn't have had time to make many stops on the road, but she wouldn't have had to be going 80 to get to the area by 7:00 for the first accident Anne heard.

Amherst to Swiftwater =+/- 150 miles = 50 mph X 3 hours. Or other combinations using 150 miles.

Was the damage to the hood done by the wrecker that picked up the Saturn at the Rt 112 crash scene? Is this a known fact?

Thank you, Outsider, for posting what I don't have the correct information to post. You're saying what I have said less coherently - that there are any number of possible suspects in the immediate area. One of the things we spoke about briefly on the MMM forum was the possibility that Rooney who has been convicted of murdering a UVM student Michelle Gardiner-Quinn in Burlington may have been in the area, and may have been involved in Maura's disappearance.

Watching wrote:

I wondered from the beginning how Atwood could be so accurate w/ Maura's weight. I don't know that is something most men guess very well at...

Like there is EVER a correct answer to this question? Or the one about age?:)

No matter how you look at it, if the Saturn hit a tree more or less head on at more than 5 mph, then there is no indication of it on the front bumper. The Saturn's bumper is definitely one that will "bounce back," and the airbags could easily have deployed after a rough departure from the paved surface on a corner like that, but it does not explain the obvious dent in the hood unless it was done by the truck that towed the Saturn from the scene.

It's certainly possible that the damage was done by the flat bed tow truck on scene, but this is unlikely because the rear edge of the truck's bed would have been lowered to the ground first and the car cable-winched up the inclined bed. Regardless of what happened to Maura, there would be no reason to keep the origin of this damage from the public.

Watching wrote:

Thanks BeagleBart for the videos. That suspicious red truck was said to have a dump bed I think. It's possible it could have been a retrofit. Can one of those just dump a vehicle off their bed at will though?

As the videos show, a pickup truck's bed can be fitted with a boom for towing. When not in use, the truck looks like any other pickup truck. If the towed vehicle is pinned, then the vehicle can be dropped almost anywhere very quickly, but not if the vehicle us slung. More conventional tow trucks can simply pick up a vehicle by either its front or rear tires, and the driver never has to exit the vehicle.

I think the Saturn is front wheel drive, but not sure. If so, then there might be a problem with the differential if towing it from the rear.

One possible scenario is that the Saturn was being towed by its back end, it left the paved surface a little on the curve, hit the snow bank sideways, the truck dropped the car - now facing west in the eastbound lane - the truck pulled ahead, waiting for Maura to quickly grab a few things from the Saturn's interior, Maura entered the truck.

Is there any reason to believe that this truck could not have been the one seen with Mass. plates?

To what degeree of likelihood do you think that the damage to the car was done to conceal the Vasi accident?

BeagleBart wrote:

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True, Vasi was almost killed. He was in a coma for 1-3 weeks, according to news reports.
Hypothetically... Vasi's leg leaves a small dent in the Saturn. Then someone deliberately backs a trailer hitch into the same small dent made by Vasi's leg. This changes the shape and size of the first dent, thus concealing any sign that the Saturn hit Vasi.

Has anyone ever heard of someone deliberately backing a vehicle with selected size, height, and impression shape precisely into the site of other damage in order to conceal evidence of the first damage?
I haven't. It doesn't mean that it couldn't happen, I just never heard of it.

#1 If there was an accident then there would be skid marks as well as marks in the snowbank where the car would have hit and then spun to head west on rt.112
#2 The flatbed that picked up the car could have backed into the saturn while backing up to line up with the saturn to load it staight!
#3 If the search dogs were given an article of Maura's to smell the dogs would have just smelled for her scent, so were the dogs smelling Maura and was it her they lost the scent on in the middle of the road?
#4 Why would N.H.S.P. spend all the time with the search if they thought for one minute the accident was staged?
#5 Why would the N.H.S.P. bring in cadaver dogs if they didn't have anything to go on, waisting valuable time.
#6 The red truck with Mass. plates did not have to come up from Mass. since there are many people from Mass. who live up here, that truck could have been up here already.
#7 I was told that there were many calls to dispatch about hearing an auto accident but when Police possibly CS got there no one was there! Is it possible she was being chased around the area and being pushed off the road but after crashing many times the car stalled at the MMM site and unable to restart she was taken from there.
#8 If the airbags deployed wouldn't there be DNA on the airbags because when they deploy it is a violent event and usually anyone in the car will get skin removed from thier face and arms as well as hair!

Also with the EMT's there they would have seen where the Saturn hit the snowbank and skidmarks since they have been to accident scene's before I am sure they would have thought the accident was staged or at least thought something was wierd about the whole scene, like no marks on the snowbank, ect.

How do you know that?
What was released to the public was the accident
report not the actual investigation!

Dude you are going to be so disappointed when the
investigation is released!

Yes I know for a fact that car was not damaged in towing!

All the great Detectives I know keep their minds
open to all angles something you are not doing.

Time tells all!

Detective Columbo wrote:

White Wash....
NO....they didn't measure the distance to the trees. Smith only made a sketch on the acc. report. It does not mention the distance to the trees from the car or from the edge of the rd. She never hit the trees, I have seen the car in person and have checked it out. The damage was not done by trees and the trees had no damage to them or any scars.
Columbo